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I feel like the actual story behind "pumpkin in bathtub went bad" was they didn't shower for six months.
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Vice actually wrote about Adventure Zone's woes. https://www.vice.com/en/article/5dp...erboard_twitterquote:For what it's worth, Justin McElroy, the eldest of the brothers, agrees that some aspects of this season have been rough. Justin told Motherboard that in particular, the amount of NPCs was "tough, for sure." Cathartic in a way to see one of em' comment on the criticism. Wonder how many people will jump back on the ship for the mini-arcs / next season if they right the course. I will at least for sure. CatstropheWaitress fucked around with this message at 16:20 on Mar 30, 2021 |
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The World Inferno posted:Vice actually wrote about Adventure Zone's woes. https://www.vice.com/en/article/5dp...erboard_twitter I'll certainly give it a try. I really just miss the early balance days of mostly goofs and some puzzle solving with checks and fights. They don't need to do anything fancy, just get back to their roots a bit
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Sankara posted:I feel like the actual story behind "pumpkin in bathtub went bad" was they didn't shower for six months. Still tracks with my theory.
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Jestery posted:Welcome to Aussie comedy, where you call your mates pieces of poo poo Nope. If Bean Dad was actually starving his kid, then Montaigne was actually being a jumped up B-Lister. There is no comedy on the internet.
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I had no idea there was such a McElroy-related shitstorm happening right now lmao I haven’t listened to any of Graduation but the excerpts from the Vice article really do make it sound like Travis is indulging the worst impulses I can imagine. As much as performative wokeness claims are thrown around too much by the right Travis is absolutely one of the people where the criticism is accurate. I don’t hate him but he shouldn’t be allowed so much control over anything lol
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# ? Mar 30, 2021 16:17 |
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Marsupial Ape posted:Nope. If Bean Dad was actually starving his kid, then Montaigne was actually being a jumped up B-Lister. There is no comedy on the internet. It's time to let Bean Dad go, man. No one gives a poo poo about the lost art of Gen X comedy. In actual news, Justin is apparently the host of a new horror compilation podcast called Bad Vibes. The trailer seemed interesting, at least, and is a really different kind of role for him. https://twitter.com/JustinMcElroy/status/1376579289617989636?s=19
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# ? Mar 30, 2021 16:23 |
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Can't wait for Travis McElroy's TAZ Graduation to come out on HBO Max in three years.
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The World Inferno posted:Vice actually wrote about Adventure Zone's woes. https://www.vice.com/en/article/5dp...erboard_twitter Elvis_Maximus posted:I'll certainly give it a try. I really just miss the early balance days of mostly goofs and some puzzle solving with checks and fights. They don't need to do anything fancy, just get back to their roots a bit e: also what is the difference between "performative wokeness" and "virtue signaling", because they seem to mean the same thing to me but I've seen the same people chastise others for using the latter while they use the former to criticize very similar behavior? Stroop There It Is fucked around with this message at 16:34 on Mar 30, 2021 |
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That article was pretty frustrating to read, it really made it seem like "no bummers" is some sort of policy the McElroys have imposed that means "do not bring up uncomfortable issues with us, ever" rather than a policy that applies to goofballs getting up at live shows and asking questions. It should have been made more clear that this is a problem of the fandom and not something the brothers have imposed on anyone, or done a better job making the argument that the McElroys have fostered that within the fandom, if that was the point. There are no examples brought up in the article where someone tried to bring up an issue and was shut down, and it is really stretching to try to tie Travis' recent social media problems in with the larger McElroy brand. I'm really trying not to be a kneejerk defender of people I don't know, but it seemed to me kind of like the article was trying to manufacture a bit of controversy for clicks.
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Escobarbarian posted:I had no idea there was such a McElroy-related shitstorm happening right now lmao how can you not know there's a mcelroy shitstorm when this thread and its predecessor self-destructs every two weeks over people being unable to stop posting about how much they hate travis e: justin's remarks in the vice article are on point. i don't think graduation has been good but the fervor with which people post about travis on social media makes me uncomfortable. QuoProQuid fucked around with this message at 16:51 on Mar 30, 2021 |
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In these trying times, can there truly be a love zone
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Colonel Whitey posted:That article was pretty frustrating to read, it really made it seem like "no bummers" is some sort of policy the McElroys have imposed that means "do not bring up uncomfortable issues with us, ever" rather than a policy that applies to goofballs getting up at live shows and asking questions. It should have been made more clear that this is a problem of the fandom and not something the brothers have imposed on anyone, or done a better job making the argument that the McElroys have fostered that within the fandom, if that was the point. There are no examples brought up in the article where someone tried to bring up an issue and was shut down, and it is really stretching to try to tie Travis' recent social media problems in with the larger McElroy brand. I'm really trying not to be a kneejerk defender of people I don't know, but it seemed to me kind of like the article was trying to manufacture a bit of controversy for clicks. Eh, there is the case of Justin DM'ing Rachel Rosing asking her to not call them out when they're lovely: https://twitter.com/Rachtacular/status/1346130073691144192 (To your point, the article should have provided at least one example.)
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Agree that that article hits a few weird notes. Along with what Colonel Whitey mentioned, it's kind of funny how it weaves in and out of treating them like a three-headed person and individuals. Consequence of the brand, I suppose.QuoProQuid posted:how can you not know there's a mcelroy shitstorm when this thread and its predecessor self-destructs every two weeks over people being unable to stop posting about how much they hate travis This is a thread to discuss the McElory's, one of the boys been doing discussionable stuff, people gonna discuss the boy. Most of the posts on it have been pretty even kneeled . Shinjobi posted:In these trying times, can there truly be a love zone There must be lights burning brighter somewhere. Got to be birds flying higher in a sky more blue... if I can dream of a better land, where all my brothers walk hand in hand, tell me why, oh why, oh why can't my dream come true, oh why...
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Sudden Loud Noise posted:Eh, there is the case of Justin DM'ing Rachel Rosing asking her to not call them out when they're lovely: Colonel Whitey posted:That article was pretty frustrating to read, it really made it seem like "no bummers" is some sort of policy the McElroys have imposed that means "do not bring up uncomfortable issues with us, ever" rather than a policy that applies to goofballs getting up at live shows and asking questions. It should have been made more clear that this is a problem of the fandom and not something the brothers have imposed on anyone, or done a better job making the argument that the McElroys have fostered that within the fandom, if that was the point. There are no examples brought up in the article where someone tried to bring up an issue and was shut down, and it is really stretching to try to tie Travis' recent social media problems in with the larger McElroy brand. I'm really trying not to be a kneejerk defender of people I don't know, but it seemed to me kind of like the article was trying to manufacture a bit of controversy for clicks.
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Welcome to sawbones where we take umbrage with stupid medical pseudo science Ah dang sorry we took umbrage with stupid medical pseudo science in the mall Wasn't on brand I guess We shall never escape the dumbest timeline
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# ? Mar 30, 2021 17:34 |
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spell their last name again right now
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Stroop There It Is posted:Is this about the CBD snake oil guy? No, it was when some people talked about how it would be cool if Still Buffering did an episode about white privilege and the Smirl family lost their poo poo.
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Escobarbarian posted:I had no idea there was such a McElroy-related shitstorm happening right now lmao I don’t think Travis has done anything that’s any more performatively woke than writing a character named “Chalupa” as canonically trans and hispanic was for Justin. Is the beef that Travis paints his nails, dyes his hair purple, and refers to himself as “the cute one”? Is it that you find the open mouth schtick annoying and/or fake? Because if so, then as personally annoying as you might find that, it doesn’t really deserve an accusation of “performative woke”—unless you’re some kind of coded behavior essentialist who thinks that only queer men or transwomen should be allowed to be effeminate and have purple hair. It feels like a lot of the people really leaning into the soyface poo poo are just looking for acceptable ways to be like “guys who look and act and sound like that just really piss me off and make me wanna beat ‘em up” but they’ve been socially conditioned to temper it with “but just to be clear it’s totally ok for real LGBTQ people to be like this, but this prick’s fair game because he’s ‘fake”.
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Sudden Loud Noise posted:No, it was when some people talked about how it would be cool if Still Buffering did an episode about white privilege and the Smirl family lost their poo poo. Ok Comboomer posted:I dont think Travis has done anything thats any more performatively woke than writing a character named Chalupa as canonically trans and hispanic was for Justin. also not to detract from the larger point, but I don't think Lup or Taako were canonically hispanic, that was a fan thing
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https://www.vice.com/en/article/5dp...erboard_twitter posted:One person who described the Adventure Zone as "a family D&D game" to me was McElroy's PR person when I reached out to them for comment; most family D&D games do not have their own press representatives. huge lol
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Ok Comboomer posted:I don’t think Travis has done anything that’s any more performatively woke than writing a character named “Chalupa” as canonically trans and hispanic was for Justin. Yeah honestly that poo poo always felt pandering and cringy as hell. Like I get Hispanic fans latched onto someone named Taako being Hispanic sure fans can have their own head canon but Justin just picked a silly name, but then when he actually doubled down on that and created Chalupa that was weird to me. Justin was insistent that Taako wasn't Hispanic in his canon but then just give Taako's sibling a generic or whatever name and don't continue the Hispanic theme in the family. Like if you have a character named Sushi I might think OK that's a silly name, if you then give them a brother named Wasabi I'm going to think are you actually trying to say these two are Asian? And if I was Asian im not even sure how I'd react to that naming convention. edit: ok Griffin named her Chalupa but yeah. Also not referring to Lupa being trans that's a separate thing. Just Chamber fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Mar 30, 2021 |
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IIRC it was Griffin who named Chalupa
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# ? Mar 30, 2021 18:13 |
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Why did they mention that she was trans? It never came up in the story didn’t griffin just say oh by the way lup is trans
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# ? Mar 30, 2021 18:19 |
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Griffin created her, and decided on Lup being her whole name instead of it being a nickname for Chalupa after fans told him about the hispanic headcanon stuff. I think her being a trans woman was Justin's idea, though.
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Yeah it felt like their first attempt at *representation* and it was pretty ham fisted but it seemed like the fans (inc trans fans afaik) still responded well to it. Seems like Travis has taken the wrong lessons from that for Graduation, the stuff about the disabled character from the Vice article sounds cringe as hell.
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# ? Mar 30, 2021 18:24 |
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Colonel Whitey posted:Yeah it felt like their first attempt at *representation* and it was pretty ham fisted but it seemed like the fans (inc trans fans afaik) still responded well to it. Seems like Travis has taken the wrong lessons from that for Graduation, the stuff about the disabled character from the Vice article sounds cringe as hell. The stuff with Rainier's introduction was definitely worse, but he did better with the character after that.
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# ? Mar 30, 2021 18:30 |
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Fair enough, thanks for sharing your take on it.
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If it has nothing to do with the plot it’s kind of weird to out a trans person in a world where literally you can magically change genders.
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Yea Lupa being trans I felt was done about as well as you can I suppose if you just want representation, because yea you either make it a big deal and have a whole thing about them transitioning and have the focus really be on that persons identity as a trans-person or you just go "they're trans" like you would say "they're male" or "they're white" if you just want some representation, which ideally as the goal is to have trans people be as accepted as cis people that's the way to do it. We can argue about them just throwing that in there to tick a woke box but I think their intentions were pure.
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# ? Mar 30, 2021 18:36 |
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Trans isn’t necessarily an identity for everyone, since Lup never said anything about it one way or the other in the text of the show then her identity is a woman.
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# ? Mar 30, 2021 18:39 |
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Looks like it's Justin's turn (see tweet thread) https://twitter.com/JustinMcElroy/status/1376951573499285508?s=20
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inferis posted:If it has nothing to do with the plot it’s kind of weird to out a trans person in a world where literally you can magically change genders. Why can't a character just be trans, like any other facet? I can see it being sort of weird if they had outed her in character, but they didn't do that. Why would magically being able to change genders change anything? Trans people aren't defined by our transition, and some of us proudly identify as transgender and don't just want to be seen as "a woman" or "a man" or whatever. There is no reason to assume one way or the other.
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# ? Mar 30, 2021 18:50 |
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When did lup out herself trans? When did she say it was an important part of her identity that she wanted everyone to know?
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# ? Mar 30, 2021 18:55 |
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Dont we kind of live in a world where you can "magically" change genders anyway? Like the science is a kind of magic compared to not THAT long ago where someone's only option was to wear the clothing of the gender they identify as. It doesn't make it any less important if it's magic, especially if even if you live in a magical world you decide to change to one gender and stay that way.
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Colonel Whitey posted:Looks like it's Justin's turn (see tweet thread) See, when I was listening to the episode, I imagined Griffin desperately signaling them to stop making fun of "sexy fonts" before they have another Furry Situation... little did I know they'd actually be cancelled for saying that a Korean word sounds gross.
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oscarthewilde posted:huge lol lol wow thanks PR person for just walking straight into that one They should have been more careful about letting a first-time DM run an entire season of their (by then) huge show. Maybe collaborate with a seasoned pro or something.
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Pham Nuwen posted:... little did I know they'd actually be cancelled for saying that a Korean word sounds gross. This is the new thread title in my heart
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# ? Mar 30, 2021 19:01 |
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Having a non-McElroy DM sounds like a good idea to me for the next TAZ season, if there is one
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The next adventure zone should be a group of focus grouped diverse people role playing as the mcelroys.
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