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Yeah, I mean it is important to remember what the government meant when they talked about her immunity 12 months ago: they meant accepting a million fatalities (or more) in order to keep business opens, all of them. It was so deranged its easy to forget. On the other hand it is also worth remembering that the good points Murray makes usually get lost amidst conspiracy theories.
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Mar 30, 2021 16:48
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Apraxin posted:https://twitter.com/VikramDodd/status/1376842676256006145 It's not going to get any better  quote:The Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) has said it has so far received one referral from Avon and Somerset police about complaints relating to the conduct of officers policing demonstrations in Bristol last week. [x]
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Mar 30, 2021 16:52
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Oh great maybe the copper smashing my head in with a baton will say it's bad for him to be smashing my head in with a baton
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Mar 30, 2021 16:53
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Rarity posted:Just had my COVID jab Hopefully it doesn't make you too sick.
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Mar 30, 2021 16:59
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Junior G-man posted:Brand new podsode out for your delectation or abhorrence as we finally do the dreaded ScotPol: As one of the idiots asking for your take on the Salmond vs Sturgeon situation, thanks for this. It's good to hear you have actually decent Greens up there, but depressing that we don't have them down here.
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Mar 30, 2021 17:00
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multijoe posted:Herd immunity as presented by Cummings last year (I.e. through mass exposure to the virus and not from mass vaccinations) was completely insane, would have causes hundreds of thousands of deaths in the first wave and given what we've seen from virus mutations in the last year wouldn't have even worked on its own terms Yeah, I know. And it's incredibly sloppy journalism to call herd immunity an "insane theory" when it is, in fact, an extremely solid and well-studied scientific principle. Calling it an insane theory delegitimises it. It's like if the government proposed dropping people on their heads and someone came out shouting about the "insane theory of gravity" It's insane policy not theory edit: anyway, aside from that, I'm not sure I understand the main thrust of the article anyway. It seems to suggest you can profit from selling a vaccine if you support the herd immunity strategy of letting everyone get infected first. How, exactly, do you sell a vaccine when everyone is already immune or dead?? quote:Supporting the insane theory of herd immunity suddenly makes sense, when you stand to profit enormously from the development of a vaccine. The only way I can intepret this is "a vaccine provides herd immunity, but herd immunity would have killed a lot of people last year, i'm an idiot who can't tell the difference." Am I missing something? Microplastics fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Mar 30, 2021 |
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Mar 30, 2021 17:01
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I'm supposed to be in group 6 for vaccination due to underlying health conditions and I still haven't had my first jab. Rang the NHS helpline and was told "you're eligible for a vaccine, just not through this service". loving useless
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Mar 30, 2021 17:02
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Yeah, I know. And it's incredibly sloppy journalism to call herd immunity an "insane theory" when it is, in fact, an extremely solid and well-studied scientific principle. Calling it an insane theory delegitimises it. The article appears to have shortened "Cummings's insane theory of what he thinks herd immunity actually is" for brevity, if not accurate blame-placing.
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Mar 30, 2021 17:04
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Yeah, I know. And it's incredibly sloppy journalism to call herd immunity an "insane theory" when it is, in fact, an extremely solid and well-studied scientific principle. Calling it an insane theory delegitimises it.
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Mar 30, 2021 17:05
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Lungboy posted:As one of the idiots asking for your take on the Salmond vs Sturgeon situation, thanks for this. It's good to hear you have actually decent Greens up there, but depressing that we don't have them down here. Yeah, your Greens loving suck. Caroline Lucas seems...ok (I haven't heard of any TERF stuff?) And the Majid guy in Sheffield? But otherwise, Scottish Greens are so much cooler.
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Mar 30, 2021 17:06
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Tarnop posted:I'm supposed to be in group 6 for vaccination due to underlying health conditions and I still haven't had my first jab. Rang the NHS helpline and was told "you're eligible for a vaccine, just not through this service". loving useless I got mine early this month for asthma and all I got was a text from my GP with a link to go book it on
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Mar 30, 2021 17:11
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Re: M&S When I worked for Brooks/Avanna in rogerstone, I was on the line making ready meals. One day I was doing coronation duck - my job was to sprinkle the coconut. These were for ASDA. About three hours in, the line manager called us to a halt. spent a minute or two fiddling with the machine at the end, and then told us the next 500 would be for M&S. The duck was the same, the veg was the same, the sauce was the same. I didn't even get a fresh bowl of coconut. M&S ready-meals really are just any ready meals. You're paying triple for the label.
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Mar 30, 2021 17:23
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Flayer posted:The fact is if you let Covid19 run rampant it would slowly kill us all. [citation needed] It's a horrible disease and would kill hundreds of thousands, but this kind of - charitably - hyperbole doesn't really help the debate at all.
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Mar 30, 2021 17:27
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Saith posted:Re: M&S I worked in a factory packing salads (spinach, watercress etc.). Sometimes the bags don't seal properly, so they get ripped open and put back through the machine. The only difference with M&S is they didn't put those returned leaves on the M&S lines. Each pack was a good 30% more expensive for the honour.
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Mar 30, 2021 17:30
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Saith posted:Re: M&S Yep. There are a number of cases I have seen where items sold in Waitrose have Waitrose info on the front and Aldi info on the back of the same packet. eg https://www.mirror.co.uk/money/waitrose-secret-exposed-after-aldi-22144280 Also, a former colleague used to work in an orange juice packaging plant. The orange juice would come down a pipe and go straight into boxes stamped with 'best before' dates. After however many 'Junes', the boxes would have 'July' stamped on them etc. Same orange juice, same pipe, split seconds later, a month longer 'best before'.
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Mar 30, 2021 17:30
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Manchester 2021: https://twitter.com/UnityNewsIndie/status/1376587252864802821?s=20 Cairo Dec 2011:  (source: https://english.ahram.org.eg/News/29690.aspx) (Ed: there was some comment at the time about why one of the masked army persons - the one aiming the kick - was wearing trainers. I can't remember what the outcome of that was.) Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Mar 30, 2021 |
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Mar 30, 2021 17:46
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forkboy84 posted:Caroline Lucas seems...ok (I haven't heard of any TERF stuff?) Back in 2014 or so but at the Green Party conference she hosted a panel on marginalised women (which had no trans women on, but I don't think she had a choice given there was also a sex worker) and the sex worker specifically called her out for being a SWERF and she did the "my ideology trumps your lived experience" meme but more politely. Natalie Bennett (the leader at the time, the Aussie if you don't remember) seemed more open to the arguments. But that's rather moot given she's in the Lords now.
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Mar 30, 2021 17:47
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Manchester 2021: Mr Biden the people of my country yearn for freedom.
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Mar 30, 2021 17:48
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Triple posting because gently caress you https://twitter.com/PopulismUpdates/status/1376614879080153088
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Mar 30, 2021 17:48
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Tesseraction posted:Triple posting because gently caress you https://twitter.com/PopulismUpdates/status/1376614879080153088 I've been saying all along that The North starts at Highbury Corner, get him in the party ASAP.
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Mar 30, 2021 17:51
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Tesseraction posted:Back in 2014 or so but at the Green Party conference she hosted a panel on marginalised women (which had no trans women on, but I don't think she had a choice given there was also a sex worker) and the sex worker specifically called her out for being a SWERF and she did the "my ideology trumps your lived experience" meme but more politely. lol of course. Sigh. Just found out there's a Scottish Leaders debate on the Beeb tonight, so that's magnificently well advertised. Oddly the Greens aren't putting up Patrick Harvie but are putting up co-leader Lorna Slater. Nowt against her, just surprised as she doesn't really have the experience that Harvie has. Hopefully she's up to the task.
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Mar 30, 2021 17:59
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Tesseraction posted:Mr Biden the people of my country yearn for freedom. That won't help. They're as bad if not worse.
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Mar 30, 2021 18:03
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Tesseraction posted:Triple posting because gently caress you https://twitter.com/PopulismUpdates/status/1376614879080153088 North London independence when
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Mar 30, 2021 18:07
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Tesseraction posted:Back in 2014 or so but at the Green Party conference she hosted a panel on marginalised women (which had no trans women on, but I don't think she had a choice given there was also a sex worker) and the sex worker specifically called her out for being a SWERF and she did the "my ideology trumps your lived experience" meme but more politely. not to  here but regarding this meme specifically: dont we agree that ideology often DOES trump lived experience? e.g. if the relative of a murder victim supported the death penalty. or if the victim of a crime committed by an ethnic minority wanted them to all go back where they came from. the whole anecdote / data issue.
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Mar 30, 2021 18:13
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Tesseraction posted:Mr Biden the people of my country yearn for freedom. Big 'At least when Biden makes concentration camps he does it nicely' energy from this post.
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Mar 30, 2021 18:14
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Why are coconut cream and creamed coconut and cream of coconut DIFFERENT THINGS FOR FUCKS SAKE
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Mar 30, 2021 18:15
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I am ANGRY
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Mar 30, 2021 18:16
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I think the joke is more that the same behaviour that the news will decry as unspeakable despotism is entirely cool and good when done by our brave boys. Not that tesseraction is actually wanting the US to liberate the UK.
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Mar 30, 2021 18:16
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https://twitter.com/JamesEFoster/status/1376787184661987329?s=20 I see they are going hell for leather on trying to smear NIP with anti-semitism claims, apparently someone asked if NIP would adopt the fundamentally flawed IHRA definitions (I don't see a response). Also, wittering on about why haven't activists attacked an account (from a Jewish former poster ITT IIRC) for being anti-semitic when they're piling on Gnasher account being suspended. I hope NIP wipe the floor with Labour I really do. Labour needs to be crushed so it can be rebuilt, and this continual smearing of anyone a bit left needs to stop.
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Mar 30, 2021 18:19
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Breath Ray posted:not to That's not what "lived experience" means, at all. Just to play along, the equivalent would be the victim of crime being told "Well actually no you were mugged by a white person". Even if it *was* what this argument is about, your point is just the standard poo poo-for-brains "Aha, you want <good thing>, but other people want <bad thing>!" false equivalence.
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Mar 30, 2021 18:20
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The more probable outcome is that the NIP become similar to the SNP, which is to say taking all possible anticapitalist grievances and translating them into "this is actually the fault of the perfidious southerner and all we need to do is get rid of them" with the practical effect of absolutely demolishing any probability of a unified left wing party. They aren't going to stand aside for any other left wing party, that's not how parties work. If they get established they will simply become another grift to keep their leadership and MPs in a job while claiming they're doing everyone a favour.
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Mar 30, 2021 18:23
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goddamnedtwisto posted:That's not what "lived experience" means, at all. Just to play along, the equivalent would be the victim of crime being told "Well actually no you were mugged by a white person". It's Breath Ray.
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Mar 30, 2021 18:35
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goddamnedtwisto posted:That's not what "lived experience" means, at all. Just to play along, the equivalent would be the victim of crime being told "Well actually no you were mugged by a white person". its just a point about the meme, which seems a bit 'weve had enough of experts' to me
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Mar 30, 2021 18:39
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e: ^^^a victim of crime has lived experience in how it feels to be a victim of crime, not in the criminal justice system. You also seem to be confusing "ideology" with "empirical data". Finally, when you start posting definitions you have utterly lost the argument, this is a universal rule. Just stop it pleaseOwlFancier posted:The more probable outcome is that the NIP become similar to the SNP, which is to say taking all possible anticapitalist grievances and translating them into "this is actually the fault of the perfidious southerner and all we need to do is get rid of them" with the practical effect of absolutely demolishing any probability of a unified left wing party. Jaeluni Asjil posted:https://twitter.com/JamesEFoster/status/1376787184661987329?s=20 Borrovan fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Mar 30, 2021 |
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Mar 30, 2021 18:41
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Why are coconut cream and creamed coconut and cream of coconut DIFFERENT THINGS FOR FUCKS SAKE Both will kill me, as will palm oil. Although with that I can detect from the smell and taste not only that it’s in there but in what quantity. hotel chocolat Is at least 50% palm oil - if the ingredients don’t say this then trust me they are full of lies.
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Mar 30, 2021 18:48
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kids status: alright https://www.theguardian.com/education/2021/mar/30/turmoil-at-london-school-hit-by-flag-and-hairstyle-row
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Mar 30, 2021 18:49
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Breath Ray posted:its just a point about the meme, which seems a bit 'weve had enough of experts' to me Yes, slogans can sometimes mean different things when suddenly transplanted to vastly different contexts. If the source of "we've had enough of experts" was someone in the 19th century talking about their race being called inferior by phrenologists, then it may have been good. If "pro-choice" was a movement to let the prime minister choose which constituencies got to vote next election that would be bad. Things are good when they are good and not good when they are bad
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Mar 30, 2021 18:52
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Breath Ray posted:its just a point about the meme, which seems a bit 'weve had enough of experts' to me my lived experience is that you suck
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Lt. Danger posted:my lived experience is that you suck
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