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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:O'Brien being enlisted was retconned in at beginning of fourth season, prior to that he was a Lieutenant. Wait, wasn't ensign Rho higher ranking than him on TNG? Specialist felt a lot like "civilian consultant" to me. Not a real rank, just a way to refer to a civilian in a military setting
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When you think about how there are no heads on the Enterprise, there being 10% of the crew stationed on it makes a bit more sense.
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BonHair posted:Wait, wasn't ensign Rho higher ranking than him on TNG? I don't think she ever was. Are you thinking of Disaster? Specialist was a pretty good way of her being a supernumerary and being a rank that isn't in the chain of command. V-Men fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Mar 30, 2021 |
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Mar 30, 2021 21:31
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I am extremely glad Miles didn't kiss Kira
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Mar 30, 2021 21:36
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Y'know I didn't know I needed a Jake and Bashir episode until I started watching Nor the Battle to the Strong
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Mar 30, 2021 21:49
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Nitrousoxide posted:When you think about how there are no heads on the Enterprise, there being 10% of the crew stationed on it makes a bit more sense. Tbf specialist is a real rank in the army
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bull3964 posted:Would you say it's like run on sentences with no punctuation and needless substitution of numbers for two letter words? i have not seen a punctuation goon in loving years man. wehre did u all go? come back
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Mar 31, 2021 00:12
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skasion posted:Don’t worry, he’s got it all bottled up by next week! I thought this before, but in my most recent viewing I noted that they at least had a couple of episodes after that where you didn't really see him much if at all, so it wasn't that jarring. The very next one after "Hard Time" was mirror universe stuff, followed by "The Muse" which I can't remember if he was in, but the sheer overwhelming blandness of the episode kind of absorbs everything else anyway
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I was merrily watching a TNG up until the second I realized I was about to see Lady in the Floor and now my day is ruined. I always forget "Data doesn't know how to date" and "LADY FALLS INTO FLOOR" is the same episode.
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a neat cape posted:Y'know I didn't know I needed a Jake and Bashir episode until I started watching Nor the Battle to the Strong The Bolian is Francis from Pee-wee's Big Adventure
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BonHair posted:Wait, wasn't ensign Rho higher ranking than him on TNG? Ensign Ro was introduced in the fifth season, so after he was retconned from Lieutenant to Chief Petty Officer.
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Mar 31, 2021 01:39
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Sash! posted:I was merrily watching a TNG up until the second I realized I was about to see Lady in the Floor and now my day is ruined. I always forget "Data doesn't know how to date" and "LADY FALLS INTO FLOOR" is the same episode. TNG had a few wonderful moments of horror like that. "Identity Crisis" and "Schisms" both have some really excellent horror scenes with slow build ups that really pay off. The scene in "Identity Crisis" in which Geordi is walking around the silent holodeck surrounded by extras all holding perfectly still while he has the computer use the light sources from the recording to slowly piece together the existence of an invisible creature that was in their midst the whole time is the stuff of nightmares.
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Mar 31, 2021 01:46
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Yeah that episode has this constant sense of dread that most other episodes never really pulled off
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Mar 31, 2021 01:48
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Hell yes Identity Crisis is the scariest episode IMO. Those shadows terrified me as a kid.
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I'm 2 episodes from finishing DS9 and I love that they included a lengthy scene where O'Brien and Bashir think they are dying and Bashir is trying to get O'Brien to admit that he likes him more than his wife. Come on man, Keiko never took you to The Alamo!
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I will admit, I would take Bashir over Kieko, she doesn't seem very fun to be around. I don't think she hated him or anything, but they didn't seem to have much in common in general.
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There's a scene in TNG where they're having dinner, and Keiko's freaked out that O'Brien's family used to eat real, non-replicated food, and O'Brien's disgusted by her vegetarian seaweed meal, and it's like... did they not have dinner together at least once before they got married?!
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Keiko obviously suffers from the writers not having a character for her other than "O'Brien's wife"
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The Schisms operating table recreation scene on the holodeck is so ridiculous when you break it down, but the atmosphere and actors pull it together so well, it never should have worked. I love the scene.
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Axe-man posted:I will admit, I would take Bashir over Kieko, she doesn't seem very fun to be around. I don't think she hated him or anything, but they didn't seem to have much in common in general. I can't really find it within myself to be too harsh on Keiko largely because Miles is such a massive source and vector for unneeded misery in her life on account of him being Miles O'Brien, the Suffering Elemental.
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MillennialVulcan posted:The Schisms operating table recreation scene on the holodeck is so ridiculous when you break it down, but the atmosphere and actors pull it together so well, it never should have worked. I love the scene. That whole episode was super frightening to me when i was younger. When it first aired it was during a thunderstorm and the climas was building up and the power went out when a bolt hit nearby. I just kind of linked the two together in my head and always remember being terrified  But yeah, I never miss an opportunity to rag on the “make this a metal table” logic leap into a big gitmo interrogation table  Computer show me a car *creates 1992 ford taurus* Make this a convertible *produces a dystopian mad-max vehicle adorned in chains and skulls*
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StashAugustine posted:Keiko obviously suffers from the writers not having a character for her other than "O'Brien's wife" I would say Keiko is an anxious person. About marrying O’Brien, about finding something to do on DS9, about the kids a lot and her husband too. Idk. She is not especially well drawn and is always a side character. The only episode I can remember where she really leads is the one where she’s possessed by the devil skasion fucked around with this message at 04:13 on Mar 31, 2021 |
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She also really isn't on the show much after like Season 5, other than the episode where Molly ends up feral which isn't a very good episode, one other episode, and the actual show finale.
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FlamingLiberal posted:She also really isn't on the show much after like Season 5, other than the episode where Molly ends up feral which isn't a very good episode, one other episode, and the actual show finale. Jesus that episode almost made me quit on DS9.
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That's one of the stupidest episodes in the series, only overshadowed by the fact that Profit and Lace is immediately before it.
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It suffered dramatically from a last-minute rewrite that destroyed the plot. Up until then, when Molly went through the portal she ended up in an alien village, and was raised by them and among their culture, and it was different enough that she couldn't re-assimilate to DS9 and missed her foster family and they decided it would be kinder to send her back to them.
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Watching older TNG can sometimes be funny. Data has to play some hand-wiggling game against some dude, and after failing once, re-discovers the notion of turtling to defeat the guy. Oh, and trolling. And the other guy re-learns rage-quitting.
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MisterBibs posted:Watching older TNG can sometimes be funny. Data has to play some hand-wiggling game against some dude, and after failing once, re-discovers the notion of turtling to defeat the guy.
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MikeJF posted:It suffered dramatically from a last-minute rewrite that destroyed the plot. Up until then, when Molly went through the portal she ended up in an alien village, and was raised by them and among their culture, and it was different enough that she couldn't re-assimilate to DS9 and missed her foster family and they decided it would be kinder to send her back to them. that sounds like a much more interesting episode than what we got.
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Brute Squad posted:that sounds like a much more interesting episode than what we got. Oh, and the whole episode came from an old pitch Joe Menosky made late in TNG for a Worf/Alexander episode where they'd be on a hunting trip, Alexander would fall through a time portal and come back fifteen years older as a grown warrior who resented Worf for abandoning him. Menosky pitched the idea because he hated Alexander and wanted to kill him off, but the pitch went nowhere because Alexander was the favorite character of Michael Piller's mother. The basic concept was refurbished and taken to the DS9 writer's room, and it ultimately got made late in the sixth season because they wanted to do something with O'Brien, something with a sci-fi premise, and they wanted a bottle episode to save some money for the season finale.
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Brute Squad posted:that sounds like a much more interesting episode than what we got. To be fair we did get that exact episode, it was TNG's "Suddenly Human".
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McSpanky posted:To be fair we did get that exact episode, it was TNG's "Suddenly Human". Ah yes, the episode I always skip on rewatch because of the incredibly obnoxious panic-hum-scream thing that all the aliens do nonstop for the first act.
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So this clip from True Q came across my youtube frontpage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4gbsBlJwo4&ab_channel=SkaIathrax Aside from being an excellent scene from both Stewart and De Lancie, "The Jury's still out on that Picard" is an interesting line. Has Moore or anyone else talked about how far in advance they had the idea that they would bookend the show with the Trial from the pilot?
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Alchenar posted:So this clip from True Q came across my youtube frontpage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4gbsBlJwo4&ab_channel=SkaIathrax Well showing how much Moore just made poo poo up on the spot for BSG, probably not. At least he admits it, unlike JarJar Abrams who like tries to jerk off to his ~MYSTERY BOX~ bullshit.
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Alchenar posted:So this clip from True Q came across my youtube frontpage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4gbsBlJwo4&ab_channel=SkaIathrax God what an ending for a show. I wish they would stick Q in Discovery to playfully rip on them.
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Senor Tron posted:God what an ending for a show. I wish they would stick Q in Discovery to playfully rip on them.
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Mar 31, 2021 12:17
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Senor Tron posted:God what an ending for a show. I wish they would stick Q in Discovery to playfully rip on them. This would assume anyone on DISCO watched any previous Trek besides the JarJar movies that are mandated viewing by the producers.
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Mar 31, 2021 12:44
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jeeves posted:This would assume anyone on DISCO watched any previous Trek besides the JarJar movies that are mandated viewing by the producers. I get not liking Discovery, I do like it but I can see the huge problems it has. But this is hyperbolic in a really silly way. The show is shot through with love of Star Trek.
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HopperUK posted:I get not liking Discovery, I do like it but I can see the huge problems it has. But this is hyperbolic in a really silly way. The show is shot through with love of Star Trek. Shhh! My favorite part of this thread is people complaining about Discovery in ways that demonstrate they've never seen it!
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