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flavor.flv posted:That eye looks like the entire head of a jhonen vasquez character I can't unsee it now
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TheScott2K posted:If you've spent years wanting a game maybe just buy it? No you can’t do that because of the principle, or something. It’s anti consumer! It is pretty lame that they chose to do a timed release because it fucks over potential customers who buy a Switch later. But if you had a Switch while they were selling the game then I don’t see a reason to not buy it. Timed exclusives are a thing in pretty much every market, and it sucks everywhere. But if you want it and have the means to buy it, then buy it. Companies don’t give a poo poo about niche boycotts, it’s not going to change their backwards rear end behavior.
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flavor.flv posted:That eye looks like the entire head of a jhonen vasquez character Sonic the Homicidal Maniac?
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Agreed if you really are unhappy with nintendo's approach, just emulate those three laughably easy to emulate games. You get a better experience and you get to stick it to Nintendo or whatever. There are very old company and they are very consistent in their shittiness, nothin new there True it won't be on switch but you can't beat free
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Apr 1, 2021 15:47
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the switch pro will come bundled with mario 3d all stars don't worry about it
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Apr 1, 2021 15:56
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Looking forward to not being able to buy a Switch Pro
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TheScott2K posted:If you've spent years wanting a game maybe just buy it? I have it on the Wii U, but that's packed away and the digital version doesn't transfer. I've got enough games to not just buy things anymore if I think they are overpriced. Rayman Legends is a somewhat comparable game for example and it's $7, Crash trilogy HD came out later and is $20, just lame that DK still isn't $20 or $30 by now like the 3DS one was after a couple years. Their big sale last year it was still $40. Wish they had a more lenient attitude about their prices like the other big stores do, especially when games like Mario Party Switch aren't exactly boundary-pushing in terms of content.
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Apr 1, 2021 15:59
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Ubi isn't cutting their prices that deep because they're nice.
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Apr 1, 2021 16:01
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are you really defending nintendo never dropping first party prices
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Apr 1, 2021 16:06
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Pretty sure they're saying there's no reason for them to because they still make profit. If you think companies start sales to be nice to consumers then you're the one being duped.
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Apr 1, 2021 16:11
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Third parties juice sales by appealing to "patient gamers" with sales once the games are old enough not to be seen as current. It works, but it also makes it so people figure out very quickly not to spend $60 on Rayman Legends if you're not super motivated to play it. Nintendo correctly figured out that doing periodic deep discounts are going to make price-sensitive buyers think their games are only "really" worth $20 or whatever. They accept losing out on some volume but make it up by portraying their games as being on a kind of pedestal. They run well on the hardware (unless they're Link's Awakening), use its more obscure features, *put the whole game on the cart*, and generally aim to be sort of timeless. It's just a different strategy, and as someone who loves a $5 copy of Titanfall 2 it's a bummer, but there's no, like, moral component here. It's the same level of greed, just executed differently.
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Oh hey, Maneater is finally getting released on the 25th next month. That's a drat good game if you just want to flop around on a beach as a big dumb shark and nom fat idiots. One of my favourite games last year. They've also announced some conspiracy theory DLC for this summer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zy6VVlTWYZ0
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Morpheus posted:Look I'm just throwing that out there, people can draw their own conclusions. I'm just saying, what is the Mushroom Kingdom hiding from us? The original Mario was designed by Miyamoto for Donkey Kong when he was working under Yokoi in R&D1. Acting as a carpenter for Donkey Kong, he became a kind of every man in subsequent R&D1 productions: a plumber for Mario Bros., a demolition man for Wrecking Crew, and a physician for Dr. Mario, etc. However, shortly after Mario Bros., Miyamoto was given charge of his own department, R&D4, where Super Mario Bros. was created along with most of the Super Mario canon including the Mushroom Kingdom. For the most part, Super Mario has been associated with Miyamoto and R&D4/EAD productions, but that had no real bearing over R&D1's continued use of the Mario character as a every man. Eventually, R&D1 would shift towards using Wario as their department's mascot character, particularly after Yokoi left Nintendo. Anyways, of the post-Miyamoto R&D1 Mario variants, Dr. Mario is the most popular/recognizable, so it makes sense that Dr. Mario would represent that side of Nintendo's history as a playable character alongside Super Mario. ExcessBLarg! fucked around with this message at 16:28 on Apr 1, 2021 |
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Apr 1, 2021 16:16
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I'm going to show you a new form of Mario, I call it - Super Mario 2: Yoshi's Island.
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Malcolm Turnbeug posted:I picked up Splatoon 2 today as a consolation prize for realising my dick didn't work on new antidepressants and tbh this game is kind of a lot like sex anyway. those characters are kids
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Part of Nintendo's evergreen pricing strategy and why third-parties can't do the same has a lot to do with how physical releases have historically worked. Nintendo manufactures (or at least, contracts manufacturing of) all physical releases for their systems including third-party releases, so they have full control over who gets to manufacture what cartridges and when. This is a big deal because, we know it can take months or longer to complete a single print run of a game. So, AAA third-parties (2K, EA, Ubi, etc.) often put in big orders for their games, honestly more than they expect to actually sell. They do this so they have a stock of titles that they can keep on store shelves without real risk of selling out until their next big release. Should they sell out, they'll lose that shelf space. However, having product sitting on a shelf not selling isn't good either, so they've all adopted a price model where physical releases get cheaper over time until they reach the cost of manufacturing (usually $20) to encourage moving as much of their stock as possible. Of course, they don't actually make very much profit this way, which is also why all of the AAA third-party publishers have been pushing heavy on paid DLC and microtransactions for this generation as well. Meanwhile, Nintendo plays by different rules. They manufacture as many cartridges as they think will actually sell at MSRP and if a game is exceptionally popular and does sell out, they can jump the line and push another print run ahead of any third-party titles waiting for manufacture. This lets them keep store shelves stocked without having to worry about an initial purchase overcomittment. And since they're not sitting on a stockpile of titles there's no real incentive for them to drop prices. Beyond that, stores will make room on shelves for Nintendo published games. Of course, digital distribution isn't really affected by any of this. Still, the eShop is a saturated market so frequent sales and discounts of third-party titles is how you get noticed, whereas Nintendo can do free promotion and advertising of their own titles through things like Nintendo Directs. Personally I'm not really here to defend Nintendo's evergreen pricing. However, I would say I really appreciate that Nintendo titles, for the most part, don't screw around with microtransactions, required online logins, EULA/privacy policy agreements, etc. If you buy a Nintendo-published game it just works no bullshit, and I do think that's worth paying for. ExcessBLarg! fucked around with this message at 16:34 on Apr 1, 2021 |
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Evergreen pricing on first party also means if you buy physical you can turn around and sell it on eBay if you didn't like it or don't feel like you're going to play it again and get most of your money back. I fell off of Link's Awakening, and I think my net cost was like $10 after selling it to some other nerd looking to save 10bux.
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Apr 1, 2021 16:34
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Overwatch Porn posted:are you really defending nintendo never dropping first party prices They're the only dev I'll buy a game at original MSRP anymore, because no one else has been worth it except Supergiant Games.
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Apr 1, 2021 16:37
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drat just how many uncles do you guys have working at Nintendo
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KingSlime posted:drat just how many uncles do you guys have working at Nintendo One fewer than I did yesterday because they killed my Uncle Mario
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Apr 1, 2021 16:40
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Mario may be dead but I’m reaping all the profits!
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Apr 1, 2021 16:42
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Rip my main paisano Mario Mario. Gonna mangia on a big slice of NY pizza later in your memory.
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Overwatch Porn posted:are you really defending nintendo never dropping first party prices No, I'm explaining why their pricing strategy is different from other publishers and how it fits in with their larger goal of maintaining this status as a "premium" brand of mass consumer products that isn't quite as focused on volume as multiplatform publishers.
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TheManWithNoName posted:Mario may be dead but I’m reaping all the profits! LoL they should make a fake one of those plastic preservation shells with the grade on it
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TheManWithNoName posted:Mario may be dead but I’m reaping all the profits! 25k and no free shipping!?!
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Rad Valtar posted:I’m pretty loving pissed that Mario 35 is gone. i'm still playing it babyyyy
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You, an idiot: "It sucks that Nintendo games never drop in price." Me, pushing up my glasses: "Actually I think you'll find that it makes Nintendo a lot of money."
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It's one thing to say 'i want Nintendo to lower prices', no one is disagreeing here. Ive been wanting to get Hyrule Warriors without paying full price and I think it's been on sale once in like 2018. Ridiculous. The argument is frequently 'They SHOULD put their games on sale', which is different, like they're morally bad because they don't put games on sale.
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Apr 1, 2021 17:48
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Mister Facetious posted:He died so that Sonic might yet live. I'm watching a Sonic 2006 LP right now. No-one can carry that many sins
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Apr 1, 2021 17:49
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KingSlime posted:drat just how many uncles do you guys have working at Nintendo My older sister works at Nintendo Germany and just told me a new Mario is in development, it's going to be called Super-Duper Mario. Guest starring the Giana Sisters.
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Libluini posted:I'm watching a Sonic 2006 LP right now. No-one can carry that many sins they gave Shadow a gun 
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Libluini posted:I'm watching a Sonic 2006 LP right now. No-one can carry that many sins He ate a mushroom before getting on the cross
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Either the market demand for first-party Nintendo titles is irrational to the extent that it's never more profitable to put them on sale, or Nintendo is bad at business.
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Either the market demand for first-party Nintendo titles is irrational to the extent that it's never more profitable to put them on sale, or Nintendo is bad at business.
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PotU posted:those characters are kids They are squids!
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Anyone have any recent experience with the Crystal Chronicles remaster? It's on sale and I recall reading they patched a bunch of the bigger issues, but I can't find a lot of recent opinions.
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ExcessBLarg! posted:Do you consider "games sold by request as children's birthday gifts" to be a rational market? If Nintendo titles in particular are inelastic goods while video games in general are elastic goods, I would say that that's the sign of an irrational market.
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Echophonic posted:Anyone have any recent experience with the Crystal Chronicles remaster? It's on sale and I recall reading they patched a bunch of the bigger issues, but I can't find a lot of recent opinions. I heard that they gave it on okay patch to fix a few things and then basically abandoned it, making no improvements to the problems people had with the multiplayer other than not having to re-lobby after every dungeon. It's still bad. Don't reward it unless you're cool with playing it alone.
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Echophonic posted:Anyone have any recent experience with the Crystal Chronicles remaster? It's on sale and I recall reading they patched a bunch of the bigger issues, but I can't find a lot of recent opinions. It doesn't allow you to actually play the whole campaign together with friends like the original, either online or locally, which is disappointing since that was a big part of the appeal of the original.
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