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Farm Frenzy: Jan 3, 2007

Atrocious Joe posted:

has anyone tried to be a Ligotti leftist yet. That seems like a good gimmick for a podcast host. Like a Rust Cohle that supports Medcaid for All.

"Conciousness may have been a mistake, but collectively we can help mitigate the suffering it creates"

yes theres multiple dudes in the climate change thread who occasionally wander out into the rest of the forum to just post matthew mcconaughey true detective dialogue

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# ? May 25, 2024 15:24

Gripweed: Nov 8, 2018

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4fb7_fm8fQ

# ? Apr 1, 2021 03:03

StashAugustine: Mar 24, 2013; Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Atrocious Joe posted:

has anyone tried to be a Ligotti leftist yet. That seems like a good gimmick for a podcast host. Like a Rust Cohle that supports Medcaid for All.

"Conciousness may have been a mistake, but collectively we can help mitigate the suffering it creates"

extremely Peter Watts voice consciousness is just the bourgeoisie of the brain

# ? Apr 1, 2021 04:46

Victory Position: Mar 16, 2004

Shipon posted:

nick land: "this is a level beyond racism. i call it racism 2"

I've seen Sex 2 and Chess 2, so I hope this is all that it's cracked up to be, real shoulders to be standing on here

# ? Apr 1, 2021 05:56

Victory Position: Mar 16, 2004

StashAugustine posted:

extremely Peter Watts voice consciousness is just the bourgeoisie of the brain

# ? Apr 1, 2021 05:57

Beard Dandruff: May 10, 2017; Want to win a consultation with Tiffany? Click here.

Atrocious Joe posted:

has anyone tried to be a Ligotti leftist yet. That seems like a good gimmick for a podcast host. Like a Rust Cohle that supports Medcaid for All.

"Conciousness may have been a mistake, but collectively we can help mitigate the suffering it creates"

According to wikipedia, Ligotti politically identifies as socialist.

# ? Apr 1, 2021 06:17

tiberion02: Mar 26, 2007; People tend to make the common mistake of believing that a situation will last forever.

Brain Candy posted:

as also does Chris Hedges and they are both completely correct. prosperity gospel is the worship of money and all of its attendant evils, to knowingly cast innocents into the flames so that you may be blessed

# ? Apr 1, 2021 07:11

err: Apr 11, 2005; I carry my own weight no matter how heavy this shit gets...

I feel like Matt's interest in leftist spirituality is nothing new but I am still following it and him going on all on all of these random small religious/spiritual podcasts is interesting.

In Ministry for the Future, Kim Stanley Robinson has a part in the book about the world uniting spiritually with each other in a single moment broadcasted globally over radio and spiritually coming together around post-collapse after climate change.

# ? Apr 1, 2021 08:13

Ghost Leviathan: Mar 2, 2017; Exploration is ill-advised.

https://twitter.com/_lizharvey/status/1377371323643531264?s=19

# ? Apr 1, 2021 08:32

Victory Position: Mar 16, 2004

err posted:

I feel like Matt's interest in leftist spirituality is nothing new but I am still following it and him going on all on all of these random small religious/spiritual podcasts is interesting.

In Ministry for the Future, Kim Stanley Robinson has a part in the book about the world uniting spiritually with each other in a single moment broadcasted globally over radio and spiritually coming together around post-collapse after climate change.

Matt Christman's "The Christman Show"

# ? Apr 1, 2021 09:19

Doktor Avalanche: Dec 30, 2008

err posted:

In Ministry for the Future, Kim Stanley Robinson has a part in the book about the world uniting spiritually with each other in a single moment broadcasted globally over radio and spiritually coming together around post-collapse after climate change.

lol KSR has overdosed on copium

# ? Apr 1, 2021 09:57

thotsky: Jun 7, 2005; hot to trot

sometimes it feels live every single person the dry boys have ever spoken to started their own podcast after chapo took off

# ? Apr 1, 2021 12:24

Exodus1984: Feb 18, 2005; Eastern Europe Episode IV: A New Hope. I love President Volodymyr Zelenskyy. I understand and appreciate the precarious position the Ukrainians are navigating. I wish I could set up a 401(UA) fund from my paycheck to directly contribute my earnings to Ukraine's success.

thotsky posted:

sometimes it feels live every single person the dry boys have ever spoken to started their own podcast after chapo took off

Except maybe Pod drat America, but it sucks.

# ? Apr 1, 2021 12:32

Grevling: Dec 18, 2016

Dr. Killjoy posted:

is that the one where the insane catholic convert hijacked the patreon from her cohosts and producer?

It started as a strange podcast no one could figure out which would get internet celebrities on and apparently subtly mock them, they'd talk about Christianity sometimes but it just seemed like part of the bit. That was called girls chat.

Then after some tragic circumstances as others have hinted at it's now a very different show where mostly but not only people who are big on leftist twitter come on to have sincere discussions on spiritual matters. Anyone can also pay $100 usd and come on as a guest. It's very nice to listen to.

One very long episode which I liked was where a guy who paid $100 came on and pitch his idea for the perfect 90's party. He was so sincere and enthusiastic, he'd really thought this party through too.

# ? Apr 1, 2021 13:46

Atrocious Joe: Sep 2, 2011

StashAugustine posted:

extremely Peter Watts voice consciousness is just the bourgeoisie of the brain

Adam Curtis: Individualism is a political dead-end in the current moment
Peter Watts: Individual consciousness is an evolutionary dead-end

# ? Apr 1, 2021 14:51

Breadallelogram: Oct 9, 2012

Halloween Jack posted:

Something like that, yeah. I've never been able to get to the bottom of it. Or even just, like, find an old episode where Amber was a guest.

There was an archive of the old episodes here but I guess it's private now: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1TWj9_EsLmL8Cb2OgOJTrzvfpD8z0WfKx

If anyone wants the February 2019 episode of Girls Chat w/ Street Fight Radio, hit me up. It's the only one I ever listened to and I still have the mp3...

# ? Apr 1, 2021 15:51

User Error: Aug 31, 2006

Xaris posted:

really happy to see my boy michael s. judge go from $200 a month in patreon (back when i started subbing) to $10k over the course of a year. he's definitely earned it and with a massive plethora of major health problems probably doesn't have much else he can do, and he does a rather unique show all by himself which is pretty incredible.

the trueanon spider network series he did seems to have done the trick in bringing in people to his show. i do think he should re-work the weird split of Free Show (old) and Premium Only show (new) and drop old episodes out more frequently to the public rss feed, there's a lot of good poo poo i'd like to link people but it's up behind paywall. plus its kinda confusing.

MSJ has done more than anybody to turn me into a broke brained tin foil hat lunatic and I can't recommend his podcast enough.

# ? Apr 1, 2021 16:13

Mr Hootington: Jul 24, 2008; I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

Latest Trueanon is very good!

# ? Apr 1, 2021 16:51

Toph Bei Fong: Feb 29, 2008

THS posted:

i really dont get the nick land stuff

Basically, Land is one of those guys who is pretty good at identifying problems, but the analyses he makes and the solutions he comes up with are bat poo poo and wrong. Like, in the following, he makes an almost Marxist point about socioeconomic status and inter-generational wealth, but alongside it is happily rubbing his hands thinking about the "refuse" being taken out.

Tl;dr: rich people only mate with other rich people, and this is good, because poor people are poor and therefore bad. Rich and poor are races now.

Nick Land posted:

While I generally seeks to spread dismay whenever the opportunity arises, I cannot pretend to a huge obsession with what might be described as ordinary racism. When perusing the thought-crimes of the mainstream racist community, it is continually afflicted by a sense of overwhelming unreality. This is not (of course), because races do not exist, or do not differ significantly, or � whatever. The most politically incorrect cognitive position on almost every point of this kind is reliably closer to reality than its more socially-convenient and comforting alternatives.

The problem with ordinary racism is its utter incomprehension of the near future. Not only will capabilities for genomic manipulation dissolve biological identity into techno-commercial processes of yet-incomprehensible radicality, but also � other things.

First, a sketch of the existing racism-antiracism contention in its commonplace or dominant form. The antiracist, or universal humanist position � when extracted from its most idiotic social-constructivist and hypocritical alt-racist expressions � amounts to a program for global genetic pooling. Cultural barriers to the Utopian vision of a unitary �human� gene pool, stirred with increasing ardor into homogeneous intermixture, are deplored as atavistic obstructions to the realization of a true, common humanity.

Races will not exist once they are reduced, by practical politics and libidinal indiscriminacy, into relics of contingent historical partition.

In contrast, racial identitarianism envisages a conservation of (comparative) genetic isolation, generally determined by boundaries corresponding to conspicuous phenotypic variation. It is race realist, in that it admits to seeing what everyone does in fact see � which is to say consistent patterns of striking, correlated, multi-dimensional variety between human populations (or sub-species). Its unrealism lies in its projections.

Gregory Cochran suggests that space colonization will inevitably function as a highly-selective genetic filter, unless extreme political intervention is taken to prevent this:

quote:
"One generally assumes that space colonists, assuming that there ever are any, will be picked individuals, somewhat like existing astronauts � the best out of hordes of applicants. They�ll be smarter than average, healthier than average, saner than average � and not by just a little. [...] Since all these traits are significantly heritable, some highly so, we have to expect that their descendants will be different � different above the neck. They�d likely be, on average, smarter than any existing ethnic group. If a Lunar colony really took off, early colonists might account for a disproportionate fraction of the population (just as Puritans do in the US), and the Loonies might continue to have inordinate amounts of the right stuff indefinitely."

As a scientific sort, Cochran is exploring this scenario as a potential source of compelling hereditarian evidence (anticipated through thought experiment). What, however, of the prospect itself, as the illustration of a mechanism that lends itself to theoretical generalization? One might discuss it in terms of ordinary racism, as a zone of disparate impact (which it would almost certainly be). Yet this is only to scratch at it, hazily and superficially.

The most prominent model of such a filter is found in the theory of assortative mating. Strictly speaking, the racial-preservationist culture advocated by ordinary racism is an example of assortative mating, with a criterion of genetic proximity filtering potential matches. This is not why the idea has such currency. It is assortative mating on the basis of [Socio-Economic status] that has lifted it to prominence, both because it seems unquestionably to be happening, and because the implications of its happening are extreme. (Crucially, SES is a strong proxy for IQ.)

Assortative mating tends to genetic diversification. This is neither the preserved diversity of ordinary racism, still less the idealized genetic pooling of the anti-racists, but a class-structured mechanism for population diremption, on a vector towards neo-speciation. It implies the disintegration of the human species, along largely unprecedented lines, with intrinsic hierarchical consequence.

The genetically self-filtering elite is not merely different � and becoming ever more different � it is explicitly superior according to the established criteria that allocate social status. Analogical fusion with Cochran�s space colonists is scarcely avoidable. If SES-based assortative mating is taking place, humanity (and not only society) is coming apart, on an axis whose inferior pole is refuse. This is not anything that ordinary racism is remotely able to process. That it is a consummate nightmare for anti-racism goes without question, but it is also trans-racial, infra-racial, and hyper-racial in ways that leave �race politics� as a gibbering ruin in its wake.

Neo-eugenic genomic manipulation capabilities, which will also be unevenly distributed by SES, will certainly intensify the trend to speciation, rather than ameliorating it. On the sweetness-and-light side, racists and anti-racists can be expected to eventually bond in a defensive fraternity, when they recognize that traditionally-differentiated human populations are being torn asunder on an axis of variation that dwarfs all of their established concerns.

https://web.archive.org/web/20141007023855/http://alternative-right.blogspot.com/2014/10/hyper-racism.html

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Victory Position: Mar 16, 2004

Toph Bei Fong posted:

Basically, Land is one of those guys who is pretty good at identifying problems, but the analyses he makes and the solutions he comes up with are bat poo poo and wrong. Like, in the following, he makes an almost Marxist point about socioeconomic status and inter-generational wealth, but alongside it is happily rubbing his hands thinking about the "refuse" being taken out.

Tl;dr: rich people only mate with other rich people, and this is good, because poor people are poor and therefore bad. Rich and poor are races now.

As a scientific sort, Cochran is exploring this scenario as a potential source of compelling hereditarian evidence (anticipated through thought experiment). What, however, of the prospect itself, as the illustration of a mechanism that lends itself to theoretical generalization? One might discuss it in terms of ordinary racism, as a zone of disparate impact (which it would almost certainly be). Yet this is only to scratch at it, hazily and superficially.

The most prominent model of such a filter is found in the theory of assortative mating. Strictly speaking, the racial-preservationist culture advocated by ordinary racism is an example of assortative mating, with a criterion of genetic proximity filtering potential matches. This is not why the idea has such currency. It is assortative mating on the basis of [Socio-Economic status] that has lifted it to prominence, both because it seems unquestionably to be happening, and because the implications of its happening are extreme. (Crucially, SES is a strong proxy for IQ.)

Assortative mating tends to genetic diversification. This is neither the preserved diversity of ordinary racism, still less the idealized genetic pooling of the anti-racists, but a class-structured mechanism for population diremption, on a vector towards neo-speciation. It implies the disintegration of the human species, along largely unprecedented lines, with intrinsic hierarchical consequence.

The genetically self-filtering elite is not merely different � and becoming ever more different � it is explicitly superior according to the established criteria that allocate social status. Analogical fusion with Cochran�s space colonists is scarcely avoidable. If SES-based assortative mating is taking place, humanity (and not only society) is coming apart, on an axis whose inferior pole is refuse. This is not anything that ordinary racism is remotely able to process. That it is a consummate nightmare for anti-racism goes without question, but it is also trans-racial, infra-racial, and hyper-racial in ways that leave �race politics� as a gibbering ruin in its wake.

Neo-eugenic genomic manipulation capabilities, which will also be unevenly distributed by SES, will certainly intensify the trend to speciation, rather than ameliorating it. On the sweetness-and-light side, racists and anti-racists can be expected to eventually bond in a defensive fraternity, when they recognize that traditionally-differentiated human populations are being torn asunder on an axis of variation that dwarfs all of their established concerns.

when you endorse the creation of both Heinlein's society of service into citizenship and the bug society

# ? Apr 1, 2021 17:57

StashAugustine: Mar 24, 2013; Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Victory Position posted:

when you endorse the creation of both Heinlein's society of service into citizenship and the bug society

This is basically the implication of the movie tbf

# ? Apr 1, 2021 19:04

crazy eyes mustafa: Nov 30, 2014

Toph Bei Fong posted:

Tl;dr: rich people only mate with other rich people, and this is good, because poor people are poor and therefore bad. Rich and poor are races now.

I almost feel like I should read it in case this is like a chapo episode summary ie completely wrong

# ? Apr 1, 2021 19:12

Xaris: Jul 25, 2006; Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

User Error posted:

MSJ has done more than anybody to turn me into a broke brained tin foil hat lunatic and I can't recommend his podcast enough.

I think TrueAnon is definitely up there in making you go "wait am i a tinfoil conspiracy theorist now? come on surely not every rich person and cia and fbi are all connected to epstein? but... they are?? its just a meme bush didn't really do 9/11 that's just silly... but he did???" but MSJ really does a great job weaving a lot of Pynchon-ian writings, post-war, beatnik, oppressive 60-70s cold war lies and giant interconnected network of drug trafficking, couping latin american countries and funding it by more drugs with buddying up with cartels, and killing JFK and RFK

also if you missed it, just lol
https://twitter.com/SeanMcCarthyCom/status/1375532624958136331

# ? Apr 1, 2021 19:29

Joementum: May 23, 2004; jesus christ

the whole WaPo article is an incredibly petty screed from an editor who failed to do basic research on their subject, including the fact that the subject wrote articles for WaPo in the past and was paid with a check made out to their real name, so it's been fun seeing people dunk on it all day

https://twitter.com/ohwowcrazy/status/1377691817114808320

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THS: Sep 15, 2017

about to have eye surgery today, very excited to have a lot of my favorite podcasts lined up for the recovery. it�s going to be a real theater of the mind

# ? Apr 1, 2021 20:15

HashtagGirlboss: Jan 4, 2005

Joementum posted:

the whole WaPo article is an incredibly petty screed from an editor who failed to do basic research on their subject, including the fact that the subject wrote articles for WaPo in the past and was paid with a check made out to their real name, so it's been fun seeing people dunk on it all day

https://twitter.com/ohwowcrazy/status/1377691817114808320

I imagine that's probably one of the more justifiable 'rare cases' just because nobody would know who the gently caress he is if you used whatever his real name is

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Shipon: Nov 7, 2005

given how virgil's supposed real name sounds awful close to a pseudonym itself maybe that is his real name

# ? Apr 1, 2021 21:52

Finicums Wake: Mar 13, 2017; Can't post for 8 years!

ted hitler hunter posted:

https://twitter.com/chatforgirls/status/1377272492075712514

girls chat is good

# ? Apr 2, 2021 00:13

MikeCrotch: Nov 5, 2011; I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

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NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

Important to note that Nick Land literally broke his brain by taking one too many speed pills and became psychotic, which I feel is useful context for his work

# ? Apr 2, 2021 00:31

side_burned: Nov 3, 2004; My mother is a fish.

I am done with Bad Faith. Force the vote seems to have broke Brie its all she wants to talk about and the show lost a ton of momentum because it. David Harvey repeatedly tells her she is over emphasizing the importance of the Squad and their actions and it makes the episode real tedious to listen to. I wonder how burned Virgil's bridge with Chap is now because he seems to have buyers remorse at this point.

side_burned has issued a correction as of 00:57 on Apr 2, 2021

# ? Apr 2, 2021 00:49

Centrist Committee: Aug 6, 2019

poor virgin texas, backed the wrong pod

# ? Apr 2, 2021 01:01

brotha from anatha: Mar 24, 2021; by Fluffdaddy

did something happen with the chapo traps? havent been listening to it for a couple of years

# ? Apr 2, 2021 01:20

Mr Hootington: Jul 24, 2008; I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

brotha from anatha posted:

did something happen with the chapo traps? havent been listening to it for a couple of years

Yeah

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brotha from anatha: Mar 24, 2021; by Fluffdaddy

cool

# ? Apr 2, 2021 01:23

hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

side_burned posted:

I am done with Bad Faith. Force the vote seems to have broke Brie its all she wants to talk about and the show lost a ton of momentum because it. David Harvey repeatedly tells her she is over emphasizing the importance of the Squad and their actions and it makes the episode real tedious to listen to. I wonder how burned Virgil's bridge with Chap is now because he seems to have buyers remorse at this point.

the best parts of bad faith are just Brie and Virgil. I haven�t been listening to as much of the interview sections but I�m reminded of an episode where they had several black activists on and at one point they completely forgot Virgil was on the call.

# ? Apr 2, 2021 01:29

the mean lunch lady: Jun 24, 2009; went mad at sea
lots were drawn
Kroenke didn't survive
he was delicious

he just never talks

# ? Apr 2, 2021 01:52

i say swears online: Mar 4, 2005

virgil has never missed an episode of chapo, he just hasn't thought of very many good lines recently

# ? Apr 2, 2021 01:54

Atrocious Joe: Sep 2, 2011

Mr Hootington posted:

Latest Trueanon is very good!

The thread is like the best example of the "politics as fandom" future they discuss

gonna keep posting though

# ? Apr 2, 2021 02:04

Nothus: Feb 22, 2001; Buglord

side_burned posted:

I am done with Bad Faith. Force the vote seems to have broke Brie its all she wants to talk about and the show lost a ton of momentum because it. David Harvey repeatedly tells her she is over emphasizing the importance of the Squad and their actions and it makes the episode real tedious to listen to. I wonder how burned Virgil's bridge with Chap is now because he seems to have buyers remorse at this point.

Lol I feel the same way. Bries crack ping may be useful for radicalizing non-brainpoisoned libs, but I already know we're in hellworld.

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Shipon: Nov 7, 2005

Atrocious Joe posted:

The thread is like the best example of the "politics as fandom" future they discuss

gonna keep posting though

That episode definitely hit close to home for almost everyone who listens to it (myself included) but it's good they said it anyway.

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