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Chin Strap posted:Anyone know how to get the item in the trapdoor room that is completely enclosed by walls? Bombs didn't do it neither did flying. maybe if you had the pickaxe? idk
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Apr 2, 2021 05:04
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Apr 2, 2021 05:15
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Augus posted:False PHD is a hilarious item lol It's actually better than regular PHD I think. Just being able to turn stuff like Paralysis and Amnesia pills among others into demon hearts is super good.
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Apr 2, 2021 05:22
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Augus posted:False PHD is a hilarious item lol I'm glad that a lot of item descriptions became clearer but on the other hand, that was a fun one to figure out why it was good by myself. Cool flavor, unique function, potentially high power level. Definitely one of my favorite new items so far
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Apr 2, 2021 05:48
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TheJadedOne posted:Ed sure does love mobs that puke other mobs or explode into random raining tears. Feels like most of the new mobs are some combination of those two. and pills are still awful. what about mobs that rush you down constantly. anyway just lost my first jacob and esau run at womb 2 cause of the stupid fuckin rocket bombs upgrade
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Proptosis, what have they done to you?  I'm never picking you up again unless you start doing above starting damage more than one Isaac away.
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Apr 2, 2021 07:42
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Isaac's Heart is slightly better now. It has a charge circle, and when it's full and you fire it shoots a circle of tears like Tammy's Head and disappears for a second. It was still a game killer for me, but not as bad as before. Cursed Eye is just good now. Can't complain about that at all. Dad's Lost Coin is still crap. I think it may have had a very small damage up, but I can't be sure. I remember being very unimpressed.
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Man, I love almost all of these new bosses. Their designs and patterns are so loving cool. Dogma has got to be my favorite, both in terms of how cool it is, and the symbolism behind it. I mean, it's not exactly subtle, but it hits, man. It hits.
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second attempt at jacob. made it to the chest, but theres layouts and boss combinations that seem impossible to escape unscathed. i feel a bit robbed. have to say, after no longer playing lazarus trying to unlock bethany by not using an extra life, and putting aside the monstrously horrible items i got with him and isaac on my first few runs, hard mode doesnt seem that bad.
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Apr 2, 2021 11:06
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Haven't played enough to be sure, but did they introduce any new strong items? Because the old ones look like they've been nerfed into the loving ground. Pretty baffling. Loving most of the new mobs/bosses/floors though!
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Apr 2, 2021 11:24
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I can't wait for some Uber dork fan to release mods to make all the unnecessarily nerfed items cool again 
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Apr 2, 2021 11:36
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Kawabata posted:Haven't played enough to be sure, but did they introduce any new strong items? Because the old ones look like they've been nerfed into the loving ground. Pretty baffling. Psy Fly is straight up one of the most useful defensive items I've seen in Isaac. It deletes enemy projectiles that fly near your character and it seems to be decently common, as I've seen it in most runs I've done. It's so good that I kinda fear Edmund is gonna slam the nerf button down on it because it actually gives you an opportunity to breathe during Hush.
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Apr 2, 2021 11:37
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i got bot fly, which did the whole taking down projectiles near you thing
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Apr 2, 2021 11:40
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Tweet from Edmund says shops are their #1 priority to readjust. That is a big relief! Really, even if they just had them all have one spirit heart it would be a huge change and make things way more fun.
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i didnt find that tweet. he just says some adjustments will be coming, but didnt specify.
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goferchan posted:I'm glad that a lot of item descriptions became clearer but on the other hand, that was a fun one to figure out why it was good by myself. Cool flavor, unique function, potentially high power level. Definitely one of my favorite new items so far Coolest item I figured out on my own was the R button which in hindsight is REALLY obvious in hindsight I got it as my starting item on an Eve run and for some reason my brain glitches out and I tried using it with Q a couple times before deciding it must be contextual. A few floors later I came across another activated item and went, ‘alright last shot let’s see if this does anything’ and ZWOOP It took a few seconds for my mind to process what had happened lol That item is insanely OP
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Apr 2, 2021 13:51
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Somewhat surreal that the weakest link thus far, aside from some over tuning on Difficulty* until mods sort it anew, seems to be the new music that is I suppose in keeping with the general, semi-ambient direction to date---but drat if the contrast isn't extra sharp in terms of lack of killer tunes stood alongside Mudeth's initial work which was able to stand square with Danny B's iconic original doings.
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Apr 2, 2021 13:54
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Yeah I need the Antibirth ost as soon as possible
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So far every new boss I've encountered has impressed me. When I realized what was happening with Rotgut I was grinning ear to ear.PIZZA.BAT posted:Coolest item I figured out on my own was the R button which in hindsight is REALLY obvious in hindsight That item got me my Jacob unlock. I got the Knife but accidentally auto-piloted into a trapdoor instead, but luckily found it on the next floor and was very happy to find it did exactly what I hoped it would do.
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As much fun as I'm having with all the new stuff, bosses and guys, I can't help but feel that devil deals are completely rubbish. A lot of items are way too expensive, the money stuff just bloats the already bad item pool and you can't spend extra lives to buy items for less than the actual heart price anymore. Two red hearts for a heavily nerfed Maw of the Void or Dead Cat is nonsense, when you can skip the devil deal and go for angel rooms instead for a bunch of really good defensive and offensive items. On most runs I'm actively bombing angel statues for key pieces, just to keep the devil room chance low.
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Psychedelicatessen posted:As much fun as I'm having with all the new stuff, bosses and guys, I can't help but feel that devil deals are completely rubbish. A lot of items are way too expensive, the money stuff just bloats the already bad item pool and you can't spend extra lives to buy items for less than the actual heart price anymore. Yeah the more I play the more I feel like a bunch of stuff (is shops, devil deals) was way over-nerfed. Occasionally breaking a run has always been one of the most entertaining aspects of the game, now I don't see that happening nearly as often, if ever. Also what exactly is the risk/reward for choosing the more difficult path after a boss? As cool as some of the new levels are, they only feel way more difficult than the old ones without giving anything in return.
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Difficulty (/novelty) is it's own reward. And the new boss I guess, and I assume some unlocks. Haven't gotten deep enough into it myself.
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Apr 2, 2021 14:40
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Kawabata posted:. You get the double item room with the blind item on the right. Also on downpour 2 you get the chance at an extra boss item. Those floors mainly are for completing the alternate path. Id like to see more risk/ reward mechanics on mines and maus too.
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Kawabata posted:Also what exactly is the risk/reward for choosing the more difficult path after a boss? As cool as some of the new levels are, they only feel way more difficult than the old ones without giving anything in return. Alt floors after basement, caves and depths: There's always two items in the item rooms. On Downpour/dross II, you can redo the entire floor as the Lost for extra pickups and an boss room item. You can get the Knife and then bring it back to the normal floors, if you want a really strong familiar and don't care about the post-Mausoleum floors. The strange door: If you missed any item rooms on the way to the Note, you get a second chance to unlock them when you're doing the flashback. And unlocks, of course.
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Apr 2, 2021 14:43
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has the changes to keeper made him not anti-fun anymore?
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Man destructible orbitals suck to play with. I'm honestly in disbelief at how much effort into such a fundamentally awful mechanic.Kawalimus posted:You get the double item room with the blind item on the right. Also on downpour 2 you get the chance at an extra boss item. Those floors mainly are for completing the alternate path. Id like to see more risk/ reward mechanics on mines and maus too.
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Having a great time with repentance so far. Took me forever to unlock Bethany. My muscle memory failed me constantly with the enemy tear speed changes in hard mode. Haven't seen any of the alt floors yet since the save I'm playing on is fairly new. But all the items and upgrades have been super fun to figure out. Also I feel like Ultra Greed might be a bit easier now? Always struggled and never actually beat him prior to repentance, but took him down first try with Bethany and then again with Azazel. I never end up with enough coins to make it worth the extra challenge though...
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watho posted:has the changes to keeper made him not anti-fun anymore? Definitely better at least
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Man destructible orbitals suck to play with. I'm honestly in disbelief at how much effort into such a fundamentally awful mechanic. Strong disagree with this at least if you're talking about Bethany, she's really fun. It's not like it's hard to replace the orbitals, and there's a fun element of strategy in choosing when to use your stored spirit hearts. Had a great run with her with Dead Sea Scrolls, and also managed to crash the game by using Box of Friends multiple times in one room il_cornuto fucked around with this message at 15:30 on Apr 2, 2021 |
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Apr 2, 2021 15:26
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 Trisagion + Fire Mind + My Reflection =  There's dozens of them being fired every second and it owns.
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Apr 2, 2021 15:55
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Bethany + Prayer Card was super good each wisp gets sacred heart shots
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Apr 2, 2021 15:57
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Lilith-B's umbilical cord baby is really, really strong if you're good at buttonmashing. Did boss rush, hush, satan and the lamb in one run and my thumb feels like it's burning
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Favorite Bethany active so far was Coupon. The orbitals shot triple tears, like keeper. Plus Coupon is a powerful item in general, since it has a tendency to power itself up as you get more shop items, such as car battery and BFF. I heard it works on devil deals too, but I ended up with mostly angel rooms that run.
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It seems to me like they were going for a kind of "middling" of items, nerfing some of the strong stuff but buffing a lot of the previously useless trash to be actually decent. Plus, the additional hard-coded synergies make knowledge checks that much more important. BFF Holy Water is legitimately a significant upgrade to your run.
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Spergatory posted:It seems to me like they were going for a kind of "middling" of items, nerfing some of the strong stuff but buffing a lot of the previously useless trash to be actually decent. Plus, the additional hard-coded synergies make knowledge checks that much more important. BFF Holy Water is legitimately a significant upgrade to your run.
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I'm wondering, what's a generally good build to go for Hush/Delirium as the Lost? I managed to beat Mega Satan through a ridiculously broken build (Ipecac+Epic Fetus+Libra+Mr Me!+Rotten Baby + Host Hat + Restock+...) where I litreally teared through a health bar every shot, but I wisely didn't go to Hush because the armor would have hosed me over. This is in AB+ btw.
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