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Glorgnole
Oct 23, 2012

i'm really glad that we've been able to stick with this to the point that interesting things are actually happening in the game!

i'm especially appreciative of the players, who have all fully internalized that we probably still have a few years ahead of us. it's special and unique that we've been able to run with a full roster of players, since i think for most other SMAC PBEM games there are just 3 or 4 human-controlled factions and the rest are handed off to AI.

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Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord
I'll try and take my turn tonight

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



i had a dream about the game last night, the PBEM game specifically not just SMAC in general. in the dream Spartans landed a Plasma Impact Infantry unit on my western peninsula and sniped one of my bases! :ohdear:

also big thanks to Glorg for running things and everyone else for playing! FOUR MORE YEARS (OF SMAC)

edit: shameless xpost

Pile Of Garbage fucked around with this message at 04:55 on Nov 15, 2020

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?

Helianthus Annuus posted:

thanks for running the game glorg

im not playing, but its been fun to watch

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



thread dropped onto the second page of my bookmarks, i sent the save on the 13th of November but have yet to see it return! admit to your intransigence and the Wu-Tang Hive shall show mercy!!!

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



i'm tired of these motherfuckin worms on this motherfuckin planet!

https://i.imgur.com/aOpqjyt.mp4

Glorgnole
Oct 23, 2012

Pile Of Garbage posted:

i'm tired of these motherfuckin worms on this motherfuckin planet!

:brainworms:

i've noticed an uptick in worms too, after not having to deal with them very much for what seems like the past 20 turns. i like your video a lot!

i owe a recap post, since i just sent off 2230 yesterday. as a brief summary i started digging a borehole (though i don't have the tech to fully benefit from it yet), and i also started work on the Ascetic Virtues secret project, which increases base pop limit and helps reduce drone riots.

seems like it's been a bit slow going lately. open question to the players (incl forever-banned poster anthonypant who i believe lurks the thread): is there anything we should change to make this funner, better, etc.?

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



my question to my fellow players: why aren't you expanding out? it really feels like only Glorgnole, Smoka, anthonypants and myself have been making an effort to build out their empire.

explain yourselves Improbable Lobster, Boiled Water and Luigi Thirty!!!

champagne posting
Apr 5, 2006

YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER

I overextended myself and is still reeling from it.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord
basically same but also i have a pod seeking a home rn :ssh:

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



Improbable Lobster posted:

basically same but also i have a pod seeking a home rn :ssh:

noice. i established a new base recently, named Da Ruckus to follow my Wu-Tang theme. also got another pod out headed for new land :ssh:

Casual Encountess
Dec 14, 2005

"You can see how they go from being so sweet to tearing your face off,
just like that,
and it's amazing to have that range."


Thunderdome Exclusive

i am so proud of how long this game has endured. way to go folks

SmokaDustbowl
Feb 12, 2001

by vyelkin
Fun Shoe

Casual Encountess posted:

i am so proud of how long this game has endured. way to go folks

it's probably a literal achievement by now. tbh I don't think any of us playing could bear to destroy another another player

SmokaDustbowl
Feb 12, 2001

by vyelkin
Fun Shoe


that's the saves I've sent and received. good luck ever sorting it

SmokaDustbowl
Feb 12, 2001

by vyelkin
Fun Shoe
yospos AC gang



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5_wzFzabiA

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007




:lol:

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



SmokaDustbowl posted:



that's the saves I've sent and received. good luck ever sorting it

i only started saving copies locally 98 turns ago but here's my collection (the rest are in my gmail):

pre:
PS C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG Galaxy\Games\Alpha Centauri\saves\Archived> Get-ChildItem | Sort-Object -Property LastWriteTime | Select-Object -Property Name,Length,LastWriteTime

Name                                           Length LastWriteTime
----                                           ------ -------------
i vored.sav                                    355457 26/10/2018 3:15:57 PM
moo.sav                                        357002 31/10/2018 5:00:52 PM
poopy.SAV                                      357210 2/11/2018 8:33:54 PM
souplord.SAV                                   357969 2/11/2018 8:45:42 PM
santiago_is_in_smash.sav                       360829 4/11/2018 4:39:45 PM
poo.sav                                        361585 5/11/2018 5:28:10 PM
boku.sav                                       361929 9/11/2018 5:45:57 PM
spess.sav                                      362065 12/11/2018 5:14:48 PM
pittsburgh.sav                                 364031 15/11/2018 6:37:40 PM
stymie.sav                                     365712 17/11/2018 5:31:28 PM
sundaymorning2am.sav                           367273 20/11/2018 10:16:31 PM
fruit tasting with zakharov (ASMR) (1080p).SAV 367377 22/11/2018 11:55:23 PM
zakh lied kerbals died.sav                     367487 27/11/2018 6:40:41 PM
1.21 jiggawatts of funkin.sav                  368357 29/11/2018 7:07:31 PM
it's made of worms and it fires worms.sav      370445 1/12/2018 6:49:03 PM
yueh lied leto died.sav                        372061 6/12/2018 9:40:42 PM
your worm is a piece of poo poo.sav               372739 11/12/2018 6:53:58 PM
provost kerman.sav                             372693 15/12/2018 3:51:20 PM
Elon Musk's Wet Dream.sav                      373149 20/12/2018 5:11:46 PM
base.sav                                       373919 24/12/2018 3:20:32 PM
elf pr0n.sav                                   374287 12/01/2019 2:43:58 PM
you dont mess around with zakh.sav             374447 16/01/2019 5:20:00 PM
i have not been to paradise.sav                375359 20/01/2019 1:22:02 PM
i too am gaian.sav                             376220 26/01/2019 4:17:43 PM
iron chef planet.sav                           376969 29/01/2019 12:02:35 PM
register sibko identity.sav                    377377 31/01/2019 9:33:43 PM
aw gently caress worms.sav                              378348 8/02/2019 8:33:23 PM
gently caress my base is dead.SAV                       380500 14/02/2019 9:46:36 PM
donate to the university plox.sav              382432 20/02/2019 6:17:37 PM
da share my wife zone.sav                      384631 22/02/2019 6:18:12 PM
defcon 69.SAV                                  385972 1/03/2019 5:35:07 PM
surface to mind worm missiles.sav              388858 7/03/2019 8:50:19 PM
the edict of worms.SAV                         390427 15/03/2019 8:04:23 PM
the nice number.sav                            393472 17/03/2019 5:58:29 PM
woomy.SAV                                      395215 22/03/2019 8:02:20 PM
i have 3 bases again.SAV                       395669 26/03/2019 9:34:02 PM
now i have three bases ho ho ho.SAV            396594 3/04/2019 8:57:57 PM
santiago done did it now.SAV                   397421 13/04/2019 4:22:00 PM
grow faster you stupid base.sav                400850 18/04/2019 8:28:38 PM
the fungus among us (it's the spartans).SAV    403110 20/04/2019 6:51:40 PM
third base memorial.sav                        404156 28/04/2019 8:15:22 PM
all your zig are belong to us.sav              404608 3/05/2019 10:20:50 PM
i'll kiss yer fuckin dalmatian.SAV             407166 6/05/2019 6:21:06 PM
stop rioting you fucks.sav                     411111 16/05/2019 6:56:46 PM
colin mochrie.SAV                              412811 19/05/2019 1:00:15 PM
spartan high school style.SAV                  414428 7/06/2019 6:17:03 PM
in space no one can hear you wom.SAV           417556 12/06/2019 1:02:18 AM
galaxy quest.SAV                               419618 19/06/2019 9:22:00 PM
earthzakharov.SAV                              422055 27/06/2019 12:15:33 AM
itsthesave_glorg.SAV                           422284 3/07/2019 8:15:36 PM
bad.sav                                        423288 7/07/2019 7:34:13 PM
diarrhea cha cha cha.sav                       425084 18/07/2019 10:35:34 PM
dungeon siege.sav                              427352 31/07/2019 9:07:03 PM
segata sanshiro.sav                            428890 4/08/2019 5:26:40 PM
go away.sav                                    429626 7/08/2019 6:44:19 PM
santiagoaway.sav                               430222 16/08/2019 8:39:05 PM
santiagoodbye.sav                              430237 24/08/2019 1:19:14 PM
traffic department 2192.sav                    430949 9/09/2019 9:09:44 PM
pew pew.sav                                    431497 22/09/2019 5:32:47 PM
santiagowned.sav                               433061 5/10/2019 9:54:27 PM
richard producer executive wolf.sav            432327 15/10/2019 9:29:46 PM
genesis.sav                                    432639 25/10/2019 12:24:27 AM
ensign ro khanna.sav                           432851 1/11/2019 3:29:23 PM
goku did nothing wrong.sav                     433262 7/11/2019 5:37:43 PM
wormcel.sav                                    433471 11/11/2019 12:20:10 PM
bi_now_gaian_later.sav                         433019 20/11/2019 5:48:45 PM
pizza_pasta_put_it_in_a_pod.SAV                433216 26/11/2019 8:46:20 PM
all these worlds are yours except planet.sav   433336 4/12/2019 7:20:42 PM
impeach santiago.sav                           433383 15/12/2019 6:18:35 PM
cant even get UPN on my network node.sav       433747 17/12/2019 7:50:40 PM
merry wormmas.sav                              434296 27/12/2019 8:06:32 PM
concordat of worms.sav                         434483 11/01/2020 7:03:09 PM
comcast fixed my network node.sav              436226 23/01/2020 6:00:06 PM
kony 2208.sav                                  437577 29/01/2020 9:18:39 PM
flight of the navigator.sav                    439043 7/02/2020 7:40:44 PM
yang gang.sav                                  440060 13/02/2020 9:19:37 PM
yang gang 2000.SAV                             439999 2/03/2020 5:45:49 PM
crazy bob's speeders.sav                       441027 13/03/2020 7:16:02 PM
corvid-19.SAV                                  441945 22/03/2020 2:51:47 PM
isocube.SAV                                    443539 2/04/2020 8:42:21 PM
kid tested worm approved.sav                   444414 15/04/2020 12:24:51 AM
atomics.sav                                    445100 29/04/2020 6:32:45 PM
GAWD.sav                                       445589 17/05/2020 2:21:02 PM
deedee megadoodoo.SAV                          447266 8/06/2020 9:25:40 PM
huns.sav                                       448650 25/06/2020 6:45:55 PM
wormsign.sav                                   449618 16/07/2020 5:20:45 PM
dingus.sav                                     450097 1/08/2020 2:50:40 PM
komm susser worm.SAV                           450468 19/08/2020 4:20:25 PM
kony 2224.SAV                                  451023 1/09/2020 6:20:19 PM
a vagrant.sav                                  451478 13/09/2020 3:52:58 PM
october surprise.SAV                           451797 3/10/2020 3:28:23 PM
barnacle jim.SAV                               452392 11/10/2020 1:25:34 PM
jeffrey of planet.sav                          452625 26/10/2020 6:28:48 AM
joseph r biden.sav                             453151 13/11/2020 7:16:36 PM
spaceballs.sav                                 454013 6/12/2020 7:47:21 PM
kony 2020.sav                                  454690 18/12/2020 7:59:12 PM
a case of the morbs.sav                        457335 17/01/2021 6:00:31 PM
boats.sav                                      457439 28/01/2021 5:14:59 PM
btw smoka i came across one of your skimships way up north. im just exploring, nothing more than a chance encounter!



edit: when the game started the save file was only 329KB, now its grown to 457KB. wild

Pile Of Garbage fucked around with this message at 10:28 on Jan 28, 2021

SmokaDustbowl
Feb 12, 2001

by vyelkin
Fun Shoe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxkBD3kbpUA

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



apologies for holding up the turn, just sent it on. couldn't help but notice that the save file name was "surface to goku missiles"



guessing someone has researched Synthetic Fossil Fuels?

Glorgnole
Oct 23, 2012

Pile Of Garbage posted:

apologies for holding up the turn, just sent it on. couldn't help but notice that the save file name was "surface to goku missiles"



guessing someone has researched Synthetic Fossil Fuels?

the design of save file names can be considered a form of counterintelligence

champagne posting
Apr 5, 2006

YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER

Glorgnole posted:

the design of save file names can be considered a form of counterintelligence

false_flag.sav

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



i'll let the Probe Teams decide :colbert:

El_Elegante
Jul 3, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Biscuit Hider
to paraphrase Zakharov, “grill ‘em all, let god sort ‘em out”

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



ok, i'm gonna need that save! who got it!?

Glorgnole
Oct 23, 2012

Pile Of Garbage posted:

ok, i'm gonna need that save! who got it!?

i just sent it off last night / early this morning, so luigi30 has just received it

Glorgnole
Oct 23, 2012

i guess the last turn i actually posted about was... 2227? back in january????

anyways the current turn is 2236. i actually have a lot of video of my turns and i feel like i should do something with it. i was thinking that i can use those in lieu of in-game screenshots but the quality's kind of crap and the text looks bad so there's still some work to do there clearly. i do want to figure out a way to tell some stories that have happened over a longer series of turns, since i feel like some stuff is easier to keep track of that way rather than looking at incremental progress one turn at a time

the most interesting things to happen on the Gaian side of things have been:
- built my first thermal borehole, on one of perhaps three appropriately-flat squares on my entire continent. with the appropriate tech this produces 6 minerals and 6 energy, so it's good to build near a base and have a citizen work at it instead of a crawler.


- discovered the Ecological Engineering tech, which removes the mineral production cap i've been dealing with up until now. now all the mines i've been harvesting with supply crawlers are producing at full capacity! i believe there are 8 mines with crawlers in total -- numerous minerals!


- as a direct consequence of the above, all my bases have eco-damage now. this isn't necessarily a totally bad thing -- while i will probably get some fungal blooms and worm attacks, this apparently permanently increases the base's "clean" mineral limit, so it's good to have this happen a couple times before ever building a tree farm (which increases this limit further).

hard to read the text, but that base now has 13 eco-damage, which i think means that on a given turn there's a 13% of a fungal bloom and worm attack

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



Glorgnole you are a saint and a scholar! I'll be in touch in-game re EcoEng tech, I don't think I have any tech you need but I do have a good energy credit stockpile.

re screenshot/recording quality: are you using the ini settings like i posted aeons ago?

Pile Of Garbage posted:

also smac pro-tip that im sure i've posted before: add DirectDraw=0 to Alpha Centauri.Ini in the game's install folder like below. that makes it display/scale properly on today's modern computer systems (your screen will bug the gently caress out though when it plays the secret project vids that in 640x480):

[PREFERENCES]
ForceOldVoxelAlgorithm=1
[Alpha Centauri]
DirectDraw=0
ds3d=1
eax=1


on modern systems the only way to get good quality is to force it into software rendering. as for recording i've used the nvidia recording thing that's included with geforce experience. bullshit aside it's worked perfectly:

https://pileofgarbage.net/misc/yospos_smac_pbem_hive_my2220.mp4

taking screenshots is a different matter. forcing the game into software mode makes it not exactly work with the window manager on win10, specifically alt-tab breaks. imo if you can sort recording out the you'll be sorted for screenshots as well as you can just pull frames from the recordings.

edit: re your eco damage, how do you feel about turning your island full fungus? :D

Pile Of Garbage fucked around with this message at 19:01 on Mar 18, 2021

Glorgnole
Oct 23, 2012

Pile Of Garbage posted:

Glorgnole you are a saint and a scholar! I'll be in touch in-game re EcoEng tech, I don't think I have any tech you need but I do have a good energy credit stockpile.

re screenshot/recording quality: are you using the ini settings like i posted aeons ago?


on modern systems the only way to get good quality is to force it into software rendering. as for recording i've used the nvidia recording thing that's included with geforce experience. bullshit aside it's worked perfectly:

taking screenshots is a different matter. forcing the game into software mode makes it not exactly work with the window manager on win10, specifically alt-tab breaks. imo if you can sort recording out the you'll be sorted for screenshots as well as you can just pull frames from the recordings.

edit: re your eco damage, how do you feel about turning your island full fungus? :D

i checked the settings and i had most of them configured the right way, except that I hadn't disabled DirectDraw. i set that like you did and did a quick test and the video capture looks a lot better! i guess it was getting weirdly scaled somehow before. thanks a bunch!

i'm just going to do screenshots from the videos. it'll help to have better source material without weird interpolation, and i can probably live with the presence of an errant mouse cursor.

for eco-damage, i _do_ have the right tech to set my social engineering to democratic/green, which is generally a good thing to do for the Gaians (i'll probably revisit that at some future point once i'm no longer benefiting from the +4 growth / creche pop booms). i'd need more tech to bump up fungus production though, and unfortunately a lot of that is locked in the very late game so its not really worth terraforming with that in mind.

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



Glorgnole posted:

i checked the settings and i had most of them configured the right way, except that I hadn't disabled DirectDraw. i set that like you did and did a quick test and the video capture looks a lot better! i guess it was getting weirdly scaled somehow before. thanks a bunch!

nice glad it worked for you! disabling DirectDraw forces it to software rendering which on an ancient PC might be slow as poo poo but these days is a non-issue. with DirectDraw enabled it tries to do hardware using ancient directx poo poo which is just awful.

edit: oh yeah the main thing of disabling DirectDraw is that it will just use your configured display resolution for the game which avoids a lot of garbage. it also allows the game to scale properly on high-res displays (e.g. it looks fantastic on my 1440p monitor)

Pile Of Garbage fucked around with this message at 19:33 on Mar 18, 2021

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



just played my turn, mostly uneventful however i did name my first landmark: Ligma Strait



also noticed that smoka has built a base...ON LAND!!!



clearly done to lay claim to the U.N.S. Unity Wreckage, nice move

Glorgnole
Oct 23, 2012

Pile Of Garbage posted:

just played my turn, mostly uneventful however i did name my first landmark: Ligma Strait




what's a strait??

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



LIGMA STRAIT!!!

edit: btw i sent you a trade req Glorgnole, make sure to check your comms!

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



OK, who is trying to turn the save into an NFT?

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Pile Of Garbage posted:

OK, who is trying to turn the save into an NFT?

data angels

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



Captain Foo posted:

data angels

but no one is playing them! has a new challenger emerged!?

(my actual question is who has the save ofc)

Glorgnole
Oct 23, 2012

Pile Of Garbage posted:

but no one is playing them! has a new challenger emerged!?

(my actual question is who has the save ofc)

it's.. you!!!

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



Glorgnole posted:

it's.. you!!!

aw snap, i am the worst! i'll play the turn when i get home from work

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



played my turn as Hive for MY 2237, here's some stats:



Hive (Myself) being top for tech ranking is purely due to a very generous exchange from the Gaians.
Believers being top for wealth rankings is interesting, either the rest of us have done some serious spending or their investments have come to fruition!



faction dominance ranking (i just measure the pixels on the chart, some end up equal):

  1. Gaians
  2. Hive/Spartans
  3. Drones
  4. University
  5. Pirates
  6. Believers

champagne posting
Apr 5, 2006

YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER

Pile Of Garbage posted:

played my turn as Hive for MY 2237, here's some stats:



Hive (Myself) being top for tech ranking is purely due to a very generous exchange from the Gaians.
Believers being top for wealth rankings is interesting, either the rest of us have done some serious spending or their investments have come to fruition!



faction dominance ranking (i just measure the pixels on the chart, some end up equal):

  1. Gaians
  2. Hive/Spartans
  3. Drones
  4. University
  5. Pirates
  6. Believers

I for one welcome our Gaian overlords.

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Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



Boiled Water posted:

I for one welcome our Gaian overlords.

HOW DID YOU GET YOUR ENERGY EXPLAIN YOU'RE SELF!!!

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