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That's not even beginning to look into the environment that Ron Watkins grew up in. The interracial son of a white supremacist pedophile, who was also clearly just overall not a nice person. Really super dupes mean. Weirdly I got the impression that Jim Watkins did love his son, and Ron loved his father, and that they were best friends. Was that just me?
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Sergg posted:If I had to spitball diagnoses based just off the interviews I would say Autism (almost certainly), Sociopathy (definite), and that rapid blinking with those sudden facial movements are mostly consistent with Tourette's Syndrome or the side-effects of antipsychotic medications. I've met a real life hardcore sociopath before and he has that EXACT same flat affect to his speech. The instant I heard him talking I was like "OMG honey this guy sounds just like L***s!" As someone with a bit of (professionally diagnosed) autism myself I'm not really seeing it in him. Granted it is a pretty wide spectrum, but in my experience it almost never goes with intentionally misleading people long-term. That and he doesn't seem to get as excitable as we regrettably do when talking about something we are interested in.
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Hey if Rush Limbaugh's biographer says he wasn't political, it must be true. No way he just wrote that to continue the big lie, nope. I mean the guy spent thirty years teaching republicans how to have bad faith arguments and support open fascism, but he was "just a character" This dumb thought process is the ENTIRE reason republicans keep using it as a defense. They're all true believers, they're all authoritarian, they're all eager to kill anyone who isn't exactly like them. Wake up.
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pop fly to McGillicutty posted:Hey if Rush Limbaugh's biographer says he wasn't political, it must be true. No way he just wrote that to continue the big lie, nope. I mean the guy spent thirty years teaching republicans how to have bad faith arguments and support open fascism, but he was "just a character" I'm sure some of them are lying to themselves
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Apr 5, 2021 16:19
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Stefan Prodan posted:my opinion is that Alex Jones doesn't truly believe the things he is saying in one sense and that sense is not that he disagrees with any of it but that he's too stupid to actually agree with all the things that follow from the things he says. like, he has wild inconsistencies in his beliefs and he's a huge hypocrite so in that sense he doesn't "believe" what he says, but it's only because he's a moron, I think when he says things he does agree with them at the time he says them. goddamnedtwisto posted:To me it suggests the possibility that he's both performer and true believer (almost certainly a performer first, who's just spent so much time in character and surrounded by true believers that it's completely poisoned his brain) but that Sandy Hook actually broke through his shell. Like, he's a child of America's white flight suburbs. Anything he sees on paper or a screen is just a "story" that he can believe or not, depending. Conspiracy theories and snake oil is making him money, so he believes in them. Godzilla attacking Tokyo and a mass shooter attacking a high school are just stories. Being able to afford an in-ground pool, now that's real.
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Halloween Jack posted:I think Jones is the type of personality who "believes" whatever makes him feel good and advantages him at the moment. As per the earlier discussion there are certain things he does that absolutely bring him pain and ruin that he has the power to stop by simply admitting fault, something he has also done to zero negative impact in the past, but he refuses to do so because he is committed to these certain insane ideas. Certainly he is also a grifter who uses any raw materials to grift but he is also encumbered by some real "true believer" poo poo. Dang It Bhabhi! fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Apr 5, 2021 |
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Apr 5, 2021 16:43
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:Q people have zero interest in preventing harm to children. I bet a lot of them are now even more comfortable with child sexual exploitation than they were at the start because of the increased likelihood that they’ve been exposed to it by 4chan or Jim Watkins while indulging in their role-play, or because they went looking for the Hillary cannibal video.
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Apr 5, 2021 16:48
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Asia is full of guys like Jim Watkins, white supremacists creeps and/or pedophiles who share similar political beliefs. They'll often have Asian wives or girlfriends and interracial children from those relationships but they see them as the "good ones." Ron's utility as a programmer and social media person I'm sure also helps their relationship but I would not be surprised if Jim threw Ron under the bus at the first chance because he just seems that type of person. Just a complete psychopathic rear end in a top hat who has no problem murdering a severely handicapped person by proxy.
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RocknRollaAyatollah posted:Asia is full of guys like Jim Watkins, white supremacists creeps and/or pedophiles who share similar political beliefs. They'll often have Asian wives or girlfriends and interracial children from those relationships but they see them as the "good ones." Ron's utility as a programmer and social media person I'm sure also helps their relationship but I would not be surprised if Jim threw Ron under the bus at the first chance because he just seems that type of person. Just a complete psychopathic rear end in a top hat who has no problem murdering a severely handicapped person by proxy. It's not just in Asia. I've seen that here in America, especially with white men married to Phillipinas. IME, the wife either shuts that poo poo down hard or they split. I'm not talking mail-order brides, more American servicemen who marry while abroad, if that even makes a difference. Now I wonder if that does make a difference.
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madeintaipei posted:It's not just in Asia. I've seen that here in America, especially with white men married to Phillipinas. IME, the wife either shuts that poo poo down hard or they split. Yeah, Hank's dad was an archetype on King of the Hill.
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So Ron basically admitted he is/was Q, right?
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I think it was on QAnon Anonymous last year, when they had Frederick Brennan on, that they laid it out: 1 "Q" is Jim and Ron running a team of "writers" who were existing employees on Jim's porn business. 2 The purpose of this appears to be that they offer Q as a medium through which people can pay to push an agenda which brings us to 3 Q's motivations are those of Jim and Ron's customers. Some of Jim and Ron's regular customers include Roger Stone, both for himself and on behalf of Donald Trump, and also Vladimir Putin/the Russian government. Which makes the most sense out of all of the theories ever floated imo. edit: Pussy Quipped posted:So Ron basically admitted he is/was Q, right? but yea him admitting it would be quite another thing entirely.
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Pussy Quipped posted:So Ron basically admitted he is/was Q, right? If you could condense 6 hours of filming to one (possibly innocent) slip up I guess.
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pop fly to McGillicutty posted:Hey if Rush Limbaugh's biographer says he wasn't political, it must be true. No way he just wrote that to continue the big lie, nope. I mean the guy spent thirty years teaching republicans how to have bad faith arguments and support open fascism, but he was "just a character" The fact that young Rush started out apolitical in a family of dyed-in-the-wool chuds is even more damning, it means he rebelled early, then made a conscious choice later in life to re-enter the fold.
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Anyway the most recent Q-posts have been by the Watkins, and it shows: they're a bunch of boring losers, and the writers in their employ have been phoning it in. https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/how-three-conspiracy-theorists-took-q-sparked-qanon-n900531 Anyway the original Qs were a bunch of independent 4chan chuds, there are a few candidates like Dreamcatcher (James Brower), who got interviewed by QAnon Anonymous in episode 32. I almost believe him because he said he got involved to push a counter-narrative after the Charlottesville killing (yeah he would be stupid enough to think this was a good way to promote Trump). Other early Q candidates are here: https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/how-three-conspiracy-theorists-took-q-sparked-qanon-n900531 But original Q is barely even relevant these days, it's a decentralized cult that exists on Facebook and Republican-voting social networks.
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Xand_Man posted:I'm sure some of them are lying to themselves These damned liberals just can't take a (racist, homophobic, misogynistic) joke is all.
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I did love how when Ron and Jim were asked questions about what Q would do in specific situations they always had a definitive answer. "What would Q do if Biden wins" well Q would do this that and the other thing without any shred of doubt.
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Despera posted:I did love how when Ron and Jim were asked questions about what Q would do in specific situations they always had a definitive answer. "What would Q do if Biden wins" well Q would do this that and the other thing without any shred of doubt. Yeah, they were so inconsistent and obviously lying it was comical at times. "I'm just not a political guy! I just don't follow it. Welp, here's my political news recording studio." I get that the reporter was playing the long game with these guys for material but he was still way too soft. There should have a lot more pressing them on the contradictions, especially towards the end. I mean the biggest question is, if they were telling the truth, was why did they even care about 8chan at all when they were losing money on it?
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ohjoshdarnit posted:Yeah, they were so inconsistent and obviously lying it was comical at times. "I'm just not a political guy! I just don't follow it. Welp, here's my political news recording studio." I get that the reporter was playing the long game with these guys for material but he was still way too soft. There should have a lot more pressing them on the contradictions, especially towards the end. I mean the biggest question is, if they were telling the truth, was why did they even care about 8chan at all when they were losing money on it? It had the uber political nerdiest name of the "goldwater." Did he like not google Ron Watsons name? Save us an hour of our life and cut through the very thinly veiled bullshit. I also loved how the only positive review that HBO showcased was from the daily beast. Wonder if spending half an hour with a daily beast reporter had anything to do with it. Despera fucked around with this message at 07:25 on Apr 6, 2021 |
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Phobophilia posted:The fact that young Rush started out apolitical in a family of dyed-in-the-wool chuds is even more damning, it means he rebelled early, then made a conscious choice later in life to re-enter the fold. My point was he was never "apolitical". He told people that so he could reframe himself as "a guy not involved in politics who saw how CORRECT the right was". It's a scam. He was a die hard conservative from youth, they just rewrote his history. He was never a rebel, no republican is. They are status quo.
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https://twitter.com/CassandraRules/status/1379777855480029191 This falls under the more of the general conspiracy theory category but, can anyone help shed some light on what's happening here? I can't seem to find a follow-up story that gives details outside of the video and I'm having a hard time believing the "Alex Jones saves kids from human trafficking" narrative that's going around Twitter. Is this an example of Jones getting it wrong and harassing a local church ministry trying to provide humanitarian aid? Or is this him being in the right place at the right time, trying to be a bombastic rear end in a top hat and actually having it turn out well for once?
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Improper Umlaut posted:https://twitter.com/CassandraRules/status/1379777855480029191 Um, it's not even remotely human trafficking? They are helping migrants. Yes they should've had seatbelts, but a lot of charities run on a shoestring and make do, in part because of assholes like Trump who abuse "charities" and because of assholes like Jones who constantly push a narrative that all 501(c)3s are bad etc.. If you actually watch the video it's not even about stopping human trafficking. It's about stopping migrants who are brown from getting in to the united states. But yes, they should've had seat belts. What a hero.
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Improper Umlaut posted:https://twitter.com/CassandraRules/status/1379777855480029191 Cassandra Fairbanks is a nazi. The video is a bunch of nazis trying to stop migrant children from receiving aid. Listen to the poo poo at the start about how the kids "are given debit cards with $1200 on them and released into America." He's doing a stunt to show how he hates migrants.
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Improper Umlaut posted:Is this an example of Jones getting it wrong and harassing a local church ministry trying to provide humanitarian aid? Or is this him being in the right place at the right time, trying to be a bombastic rear end in a top hat and actually having it turn out well for once? its either a church van full of migrant kids or a church van full of non-migrant kids. either way having a bunch of kids stuffed in a van w/o seatbelts is not the best way to move kids but its not really suspicious, unless you're so delusional that you think any movement of children in public is trafficking
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American school buses are only required to have seatbelts in eight states.
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Karma Comedian posted:American school buses are only required to have seatbelts in eight states. Surprised it's that many.
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This is why I never ride on school buses.
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same, i only ride in them
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Apr 8, 2021 15:25
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Nothing Alex Jones does is real, y'all.
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Mr. Fall Down Terror posted:same, i only ride in them mods?
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The first time I tried to watch the last episode of Q:Into the Storm, something glitched out and the episode was edited together wrong. Like the episode ended abruptly with a scene that I think was pulled from another episode, then another scene played after the credits. I had to reset my Roku to be able to go back and finish watching the episode. Now what do I do about the bugs inside my Roku and teeth?
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Karma Comedian posted:American school buses are only required to have seatbelts in eight states. American school buses are designed to be tanks, essentially. If something could do enough damage to one to be a problem seat belts probably wouldn't make much difference.
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Joshlemagne posted:American school buses are designed to be tanks, essentially. If something could do enough damage to one to be a problem seat belts probably wouldn't make much difference. That's not how Newton's third law or seatbelts work. The whole reason school buses don't have seatbelts is because it's assumed the driver is safe, and that others drive safe around them. And that installing seatbelts would make them a requirement and create an unenforceable burden and liability on the driver to manage. Edit: So I actually looked this up a bit, and it appears we are both right, to an extent. https://thenewswheel.com/7-reasons-why-school-buses-dont-have-seat-belts/ How close the seats are also prevents movement. eSporks fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Apr 9, 2021 |
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Halloween Jack posted:The first time I tried to watch the last episode of Q:Into the Storm, something glitched out and the episode was edited together wrong. Like the episode ended abruptly with a scene that I think was pulled from another episode, then another scene played after the credits. I had to reset my Roku to be able to go back and finish watching the episode. Now what do I do about the bugs inside my Roku and teeth? Oh poo poo. You got the Bill Gates G5 microchip vaccine, didn't you? It's too late now. You fool.
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eSporks posted:Uhhh Newton's second law is more relevant for this situation. If a bus hits a car (even a big car, like an SUV), the bus is going to keep going, while the car is going to decelerate catastrophically. Which is why it's more important for the person inside the car to be wearing a seatbelt, so they don't go flying around inside their vehicle.
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I lived in school buses for much of the trump years. They're built like tanks. You want a Thomas with a Cat engine, fyi
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Karma Comedian posted:American school buses are only required to have seatbelts in eight states. The point of this comment is to illustrate how laughable the concern trolling over unbelted kids is Busses are pretty dope
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pop fly to McGillicutty posted:Nothing Alex Jones does is real, y'all. He porked that lady that poop her pants I think that was real
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pop fly to McGillicutty posted:My point was he was never "apolitical". He told people that so he could reframe himself as "a guy not involved in politics who saw how CORRECT the right was". It's a scam. He was a die hard conservative from youth, they just rewrote his history. Years ago I saw a video from the late 80s-early 90s from some kind of radio station trade show/marketing convention. It was right at the point where Rush had started to blow up nation wide and he was a part of a panel discussion about how to succeed in the radio market and he pretty clearly comes out and says he is more or less playing to a market and just trying to fill a gap in the market so that he can make money. Over the years I think he really became the "El Rushbo" character but at first he might have been right wind or whatnot but he was really just saying what he needed to say to build a market and make money. Essentially he helped destroy American society so he could get rich.
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