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Gavok posted:With the Hawkeye show, I'm really not looking forward to seeing the dog getting thrown into oncoming traffic. 
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Apr 5, 2021 21:49
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You know after watching the Honest Trailer for Wandavision, did Wanda even have an arc? Did she learn anything she didn't know before, other than she's powerful as hell. The whole grief thing, was that satisfactorily resolved? I can't remember that happening, and that's a shame.
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Shageletic posted:You know after watching the Honest Trailer for Wandavision, did Wanda even have an arc? Did she learn anything she didn't know before, other than she's powerful as hell. The whole grief thing, was that satisfactorily resolved? "What did we learn, Wanda?" "I guess we learned not to do it again."
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Apr 5, 2021 22:31
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Wanda learns that she should probably not torture people, even though they'll never respect and thank her for stopping torturing them.
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Shageletic posted:You know after watching the Honest Trailer for Wandavision, did Wanda even have an arc? Did she learn anything she didn't know before, other than she's powerful as hell. The whole grief thing, was that satisfactorily resolved? Well she came to understand that she is more powerful than she thought and is now training to learn how to control it with the Darkhold. So basically trauma > magic. Pretty much Stephen Strange's arc in the first half of Doctor Strange I guess.
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The end result of WandaVision is that Wanda knows who she is now (Scarlet Witch), she's moved to a grey area of morality and has a utility to learn about and control her powers (Darkhold), Monica has superpowers now (Photon/Spectrum), and Vision is alive again (White Vision). Those are all pretty big story beats for the overall MCU. Also Darcy and Jimmy are buds now, which I hope comes back in some fashion. cyclical posted:I don't care about She-Hulk as a character but Tatiana Maslany is an absolute marvel (haha!) so I'll definitely watch that. She was incredible on Orphan Black as... well, everyone. Loki looks crazy fun. Does anyone have any idea how many episodes it'll be? I'm hoping it'll be more WV length rather than FATWS length.
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She presumably has some kind of change in her grief and acceptance. She goes from being so heartbroken and lonely in losing Vision that her grief involuntarily creates the hex and voluntarily allows her to justify keeping it going despite her obvious moral dilemma. By the end she's at least able to let go of Vision for the greater good. Granted she did that once already when she killed him the first time but presumably it should work out better this time unless she goes full on super villain. In which case I guess THAT would be her development.
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sticklefifer posted:Loki looks crazy fun. Does anyone have any idea how many episodes it'll be? I'm hoping it'll be more WV length rather than FATWS length. Wikipedia says 6 episodes.
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TK-42-1 posted:what The dog is fine (although he loses an eye). It's his superhero origin story. The details: He's owned by the Tracksuit Mafia, who abuse him. He eventually turns on them at the right moment to give Clint the upper hand in a fight, but one of the baddies tosses him into an oncoming car. He makes it and is adopted by Clint, who he helps keep out of trouble. 
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The issue of Hawkguy that is told from the perspective of Pizza Dog, where all dialogue is icons inside of thought balloons could be a really fun episode.
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So does Hawkeye's wife leave him after finding out he became a psychopath when she was snapped?
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live with fruit posted:So does Hawkeye's wife leave him after finding out he became a psychopath when she was snapped? Or Clint is on the run from some organized crime ring that he murdered during the snap who just had their ranks doubled when everyone reappeared.
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Just inject that Loki trailer material right into my veins. That’s the MCU stuff I needed after Wandavision.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Jennifer Lawrence only did the last few X-Men movies because they let her wear that terrible looking blue leotard instead of doing makeup. To be fair, the idea that Mystique has to run around naked all the time is pretty dumb. It both looks bad, and it forces the actor to spend hours in the makeup chair for no reason.
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Oasx posted:To be fair, the idea that Mystique has to run around naked all the time is pretty dumb. It both looks bad, and it forces the actor to spend hours in the makeup chair for no reason. And it originates with noted sex criminal Bryan Singer.
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live with fruit posted:And it originates with noted sex criminal Bryan Singer. I remember him saying back in the first X-men movie "how do get away with having a beautiful woman naked in a pg movie? paint her blue!"
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I wonder what plot element Loki is gonna have that will convince half the internet that it will finally be the series that absolutely definitively introduces mutants into the MCU
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Loki is going to have 5 really cool episodes followed by a finale where he just shoots green lasers at someone
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Collapsing Farts posted:Loki is going to have 5 really cool episodes followed by a finale where he just shoots green lasers at someone So six really cool episodes
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Collapsing Farts posted:Loki is going to have 5 really cool episodes followed by a finale where he just shoots green lasers at someone The lasers symbolize grief.
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Argue posted:I wonder what plot element Loki is gonna have that will convince half the internet that it will finally be the series that absolutely definitively introduces mutants into the MCU Wellll Gugu Mbatha-Raw character's name is Renslayer, who in the comics is a love interest of Kang the Conqueror, so this is basically already a Fantastic 4 show.
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live with fruit posted:And it originates with noted sex criminal Bryan Singer. I thought Singer had no interest in women? Or, you know, legal adults.
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Argue posted:I wonder what plot element Loki is gonna have that will convince half the internet that it will finally be the series that absolutely definitively introduces mutants into the MCU Sirs Stewart and McKellen will have small roles, but as bit-bureaucrats for the TVA, not as Charles and Erik? 
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Argue posted:I wonder what plot element Loki is gonna have that will convince half the internet that it will finally be the series that absolutely definitively introduces mutants into the MCU I'm more curious how they're going to do Ms. Marvel, because her comics origin is basically alien mutant i.e. Inhuman. Only it's even more complicated, because she's a human whose power is activated through alien mists. So human alien mutant. Will they use her show to introduce mutants, making her one of the first mutants in the MCU? Are they gonna try and use her show to explain this other type of mutation before the actual mutants show up? Or are they just gonna gently caress her comics origin in the bin and do something completely different, by making her a science experiment gone wrong ala Spiderman, someone who receives alien powers ala Carol Danvers etc? I could see the show tying her to the Skrulls too, given her shape-shifting powers and using that to explore the Skrulls as people who have settled on Earth to some degree before Secret Invasion goes all in on the Skrull stuff next year, for example. I've also heard the theory that The Eternals is what'll introduce mutants to the MCU, since the Eternals themselves are kind of mutant humans created through experimentation by the Celestials and their existence ties in to mutants and is what created the genetic conditions that allowed for such varied mutation in humans.
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tsob posted:I'm more curious how they're going to do Ms. Marvel, because her comics origin is basically alien mutant i.e. Inhuman. Only it's even more complicated, because she's a human whose power is activated through alien mists. So human alien mutant. Will they use her show to introduce mutants, making her one of the first mutants in the MCU? Are they gonna try and use her show to explain this other type of mutation before the actual mutants show up? Or are they just gonna gently caress her comics origin in the bin and do something completely different, by making her a science experiment gone wrong ala Spiderman, someone who receives alien powers ala Carol Danvers etc? I could see the show tying her to the Skrulls too, given her shape-shifting powers and using that to explore the Skrulls as people who have settled on Earth to some degree before Secret Invasion goes all in on the Skrull stuff next year, for example. Someone didn't get far into Agents of SHIELD. (It's a good show, check it out)
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tsob posted:I'm more curious how they're going to do Ms. Marvel, because her comics origin is basically alien mutant i.e. Inhuman. Only it's even more complicated, because she's a human whose power is activated through alien mists. So human alien mutant. Will they use her show to introduce mutants, making her one of the first mutants in the MCU? Are they gonna try and use her show to explain this other type of mutation before the actual mutants show up? Or are they just gonna gently caress her comics origin in the bin and do something completely different, by making her a science experiment gone wrong ala Spiderman, someone who receives alien powers ala Carol Danvers etc? I could see the show tying her to the Skrulls too, given her shape-shifting powers and using that to explore the Skrulls as people who have settled on Earth to some degree before Secret Invasion goes all in on the Skrull stuff next year, for example. Maybe she lives in Westview.
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Oasx posted:To be fair, the idea that Mystique has to run around naked all the time is pretty dumb. It both looks bad, and it forces the actor to spend hours in the makeup chair for no reason. It wasn't the X-men jump suit. During her "nude" scenes in the first few movies, they used textured full-body makeup like they did in the original movies. In the last few movies, they cut almost all of it out and just had her wear a smooth blue leotard with no texturing and added CGI.  They also dramatically cut down on her face makeup and practical effects as time went on. 
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Open Source Idiom posted:Someone didn't get far into Agents of SHIELD. I didn't get any in to Agents of SHIELD. That said, I'm aware the Inhumans is a thing that Agents of SHIELD introduced, and then spun off into it's own show. I'm also aware it's not a thing many people watched or cared about, and that even Agents of SHIELD is probably not actually canon to the MCU regardless of any references the show has to the MCU. As such it's highly likely that the MCU will explain any concepts that Agents of SHIELD used if they introduce them, because they cannot just presume that everyone seeing the show has seen Agents of SHIELD or read the comics the characters appear in. tsob fucked around with this message at 12:44 on Apr 6, 2021 |
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The Inhumans tv show wasn't REALLY a spinoff of the Agents of SHIELD. The Inhumans between them had next to nothing in common. I think they make a passing reference to the SHIELD stuff in the same way SHIELD made references to the MCU events. But also, yeah, in Agents of SHIELD there's been random humans transforming into inhumans for years and its been a huge thing and that's never once been referenced in the greater MCU. So IF that's gonna be made the canon reason for Ms Marvel the show's gonna have to do some work to introduce it and retcon it in a little. That's my personal hope. I'd love nothing more to see Chloe Bennett when I turn that show on. But I'm not holding my breath. On the other hand I also have no idea what the more likely explanation would be so whelp. We'll see.
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Just make her a mutant in MCU. Way easier to explain without magic gas nonsense.
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List of people who are definitely going to become mutants: - All of the blipped people - Everyone in Westview - Everyone who takes the Power Broker serum - Everyone time-god Loki interacts with - The racist banker
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stev posted:List of people who are definitely going to become mutants: Not the boat!?
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Open Source Idiom posted:Not the boat!? The teller doesn't like boats.
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Open Source Idiom posted:Someone didn't get far into Agents of SHIELD. This is a trap OP
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Open Source Idiom posted:Not the boat!? The big fifth episode reveal is that the boat is actually Namor.
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live with fruit posted:The big fifth episode reveal is that the boat is actually Namor. Namor is actually a Skrull in disguise and the fifth episode reveal is that all Skrull are actually boats in disguise.
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The boat is mystique, that's how they're introducing mutants
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