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Starks
Sep 24, 2006

I went high PSY and FYS my first playthrough and I was basically a psychic maniac. It was a great playthrough. Doing 3/3/2/4 now and it's not as fun IMO.

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DreadCthulhu
Sep 17, 2008

What the fuck is up, Denny's?!
I'm ok with playing a maniac for shits and giggles, but disappointing Kim breaks my heart every time. We don't deserve him.

EorayMel
May 30, 2015

WE GET IT. YOU LOVE GUN JESUS. Toujours des fusils Bullpup Français.

DreadCthulhu posted:

I'm ok with playing a maniac for shits and giggles, but disappointing Kim breaks my heart every time. We don't deserve him.

Hitting an all time low with Kim was my first achievement, acquired after I failed at Authority and became the fabled Meltdown Cop.

Captain Oblivious
Oct 12, 2007

I'm not like other posters

GlyphGryph posted:

Most of the time anyway. For now. But he's also actively building an organization where that's not always going to be true, and things have already not worked out well at all for the other members that wanted to build a different sort of union (what with him having everyone who contested his leadership murdered and all). Once Wild Pines is gone, its no longer the Union vs the Bosses, where Edgar wins by fighting for the workers. Once Wild Pines is gone, he IS the boss, not the guy trying to fight against the boss. I expect things are going to change rather quickly.

You mean the guy who is actively, deliberately conspiring to get the people under his care killed For The Greater Good (for the advancement of his own power) might be cultivating structures that lead inevitably to either authoritarian dictatorship or oligarchy? Crazy.

Starks
Sep 24, 2006

DreadCthulhu posted:

I'm ok with playing a maniac for shits and giggles, but disappointing Kim breaks my heart every time. We don't deserve him.

Telling everyone you lost your gun and badge is very funny though. Kim needs to learn a thing or two about police transparency.

Hirsute
May 4, 2007
Well I downloaded the PS4 patch and all the bugs I was experiencing are still there... what a bummer

Dinosaurs!
May 22, 2003

Hirsute posted:

Well I downloaded the PS4 patch and all the bugs I was experiencing are still there... what a bummer

Dang. Was hoping I could grab this for the weekend. Guess I’ll keep waiting.

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



Randarkman posted:

Ehm, the Russian liberals, or rather the moderate socialists if you're thinking of Kerensky's Trudovik faction (that would be it right?), didn't really do anything even close to betraying the communists. They got outmaneuvered, made a huge domestic mistake by sticking with the war, handing that ball to the Bolsheviks and got done away when the Bolsheviks turned on them, which was partly made possible because Kerensky never did betray the Bolsheviks or try to ally or get close to the White forces to outmaneuver push them out.

Also no communists during the original French Revolution, and the Paris Commune wasn't as much betrayed by liberals as it was simply done in by the French military after peace had been negotiated with the Germans.
For Russia I'm referring to the Kadets. Though you're right about the French, I remembered the end of the commune wrong.

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

#essereFerrari
did they remove the glass inspection on klassje room?

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

I dunno if they cut it, but it was always missable, so you may have missed it organically.

pablo gbscobar
Nov 24, 2007

oh shit i got the snype

:wom:
Lipstick Apathy

DreadCthulhu posted:

Thinking of which archetype I should use for a second run. I want something that is internally consistent and mutually beneficial instead of heavily clashing traits. For example, I briefly tried a guy who was high in physical/half light but also high in empathy, so he was constantly wanting to gently caress poo poo up, but also feeling really bad about it. Felt like there was a ton of internal conflict that you had to constantly resolve.

I did a thinker of my first run, so ideally I'd get to experience a character that's high in PSY and FYS, but those two don't seem to match up well.. is there a way to reconcile that?

I'm rolling as a boozed-up fashman with high FYS/MOT (1/2/5/4) and have been having a tonne of fun RPing as a Constantine type who thinks with his fists and gets by on gut feelings and premonitions. Put some points into Inland, Half Light and Authority and keep your Empathy low and enjoy playing a raging psycho who shakes people down whilst quoting race theory.

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

Cpt_Obvious posted:

I dunno if they cut it, but it was always missable, so you may have missed it organically.

Zeta Acosta posted:

did they remove the glass inspection on klassje room?

It's still there, I did it in my final cut run. It's possible that it's gated a bit more strictly before behind game progress/dialogue and/or passive checks (Perception and Visual Calculus I think).

EorayMel
May 30, 2015

WE GET IT. YOU LOVE GUN JESUS. Toujours des fusils Bullpup Français.

pablo gbscobar posted:

I'm rolling as a boozed-up fashman with high FYS/MOT (1/2/5/4) and have been having a tonne of fun RPing as a Constantine type who thinks with his fists and gets by on gut feelings and premonitions. Put some points into Inland, Half Light and Authority and keep your Empathy low and enjoy playing a raging psycho who shakes people down whilst quoting race theory.

You and I both, bröther :whatup:

pablo gbscobar
Nov 24, 2007

oh shit i got the snype

:wom:
Lipstick Apathy

Hirsute posted:

Well I downloaded the PS4 patch and all the bugs I was experiencing are still there... what a bummer

I downloaded the patch, and while I still can't access the sandcastle the voices have been fixed and I manged to get past the car section by activating the swing scene then dipping in and out of a nearby building to reset the map. The car was still white but I was able to interact with it just fine after that.

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

4/4/1/3 with conceptualization focus lets you get most of the passive checks early game, you won't be able to miss much day 1 except some drug/sex stuff with electrochemistry. There's booze and skills that let you put points into shivers and a thought that gives +3, and some clothing, not to mention perception getting possibly like +8 from clothes and thoughts. Literally nothing got by me by the end of day 3. I could sense, perceive, intuit and conceptualize anything.

There are skills that give +10xp and +2 real for encyclopedia, +10xp for conceptualization, with 4 in encyclopedia and 5 in conceptualization at the start of the game you can level up 10x times per day or more.

There's also +4 for saying commie stuff and +1 for clicking on new orbs in the world. and hardcore gives +5xp for all the smaller quests.

Also did you know your ledger changes your stats if you hold it, different stats depending on how you interacted with it

Antonymous fucked around with this message at 01:44 on Apr 9, 2021

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

Antonymous posted:

4/4/1/3 with conceptualization focus lets you get most of the passive checks early game, you won't be able to miss much day 1 except some drug/sex stuff with electrochemistry. There's booze and skills that let you put points into shivers and a thought that gives +3, and some clothing, not to mention perception getting possibly like +8 from clothes and thoughts. Literally nothing got by me by the end of day 3. I could sense, perceive, intuit and conceptualize anything.

But what was your net worth when you ended the game?

EorayMel
May 30, 2015

WE GET IT. YOU LOVE GUN JESUS. Toujours des fusils Bullpup Français.

Randarkman posted:

But what was your net worth when you ended the game?

*makes sign of the cross*

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Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011




pablo gbscobar
Nov 24, 2007

oh shit i got the snype

:wom:
Lipstick Apathy
X-post from the Simpsons meme thread:


Vagabong
Mar 2, 2019
I think I found the only other voice acting change that I dislike outside of Titus; the orignal VO for the helmeted Merc felt properly unstable in a way the new actor doesn't convey.

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

Vagabong posted:

I think I found the only other voice acting change that I dislike outside of Titus; the orignal VO for the helmeted Merc felt properly unstable in a way the new actor doesn't convey.

Oh yeah, I remember realling liking the old one "PIGFUCK!"

Hirsute
May 4, 2007

pablo gbscobar posted:

I downloaded the patch, and while I still can't access the sandcastle the voices have been fixed and I manged to get past the car section by activating the swing scene then dipping in and out of a nearby building to reset the map. The car was still white but I was able to interact with it just fine after that.

OK yeah I got the car to work now too, and it seems more stable, hasn't crashed in a while now.

Chekans 3 16
Jan 2, 2012

No Resetti.
No Continues.



Grimey Drawer
Goddamn I love how the cryptozoologist says "GARY"

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


weekly font posted:

Are there any playthroughs of the OG game (unless you know of a good Final Cut one that started) where someone actually takes the time to discuss some of the game’ssymbolism and politics? Likely the only way I would be into an LP of this but need something to hold me over cause I’m too busy to really sink my teeth in at the moment.

Bonus points if they’re not some neolib dipshit like every Twitch streamer who just wants politics to shutup so they can keep making money off donations from whales.

Yeah, this is a great one:

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5dr1EHvfwpNZ5nYHgJtTgRr4no7m-UWY

The guy often pauses to ramble about political side topics the game got him thinking about, and he's pretty lefty

Mandrel
Sep 24, 2006

finished the game and it appears to be frozen on a black screen after fading out. awesome

Kobal2
Apr 29, 2019

DreadCthulhu posted:

Thinking of which archetype I should use for a second run. I want something that is internally consistent and mutually beneficial instead of heavily clashing traits. For example, I briefly tried a guy who was high in physical/half light but also high in empathy, so he was constantly wanting to gently caress poo poo up, but also feeling really bad about it. Felt like there was a ton of internal conflict that you had to constantly resolve.

That's what I'm running with right now (ditching a high int/mot communist art cop because I felt too constrained by the drive to get ALL THE FREE XP, dopamine cramping my style) and I think you've got it the wrong way around : PSY/PHY Harry is *deep* in self-loathing, and that manifests as a need to alleviate the pain by loving poo poo and/or himself up as well as a burning need to prove himself to just about everyone he meets who would DARE look down on him (when they don't even know how loathsome he *really* is ! loving assholes !).
And it's a self-reinforcing loop because after he calms down or sobers up he understands he's just hurt people/disappointed Kim again, which sends him right back into self-loathing, etc etc.

No conflict whatsoever, just a well-oiled self-destruction machine. Most depressives will relate.

EDIT : by comparison, INT/MOT Harry was much less complex. INT skills keep patting him on the back for being a very smart boy while MOT ones keep calling him a hero cop and a hustling superstar. Both sets of skills make for a pretty down-to-earth & result-oriented detecting machine, too - once you're past all the vomiting you're able to get the body down AND find all of its nasty little secrets by lunch day 1. Be sure to keep PSY down so as to stay away from those icky emotions and sail away on the sea of peace of mind and raw efficiency that only purestrain denial, dissociation and art snobbery can lay before you.

Kobal2 fucked around with this message at 09:17 on Apr 9, 2021

DreadCthulhu
Sep 17, 2008

What the fuck is up, Denny's?!

Kobal2 posted:

EDIT : by comparison, INT/MOT Harry was much less complex. INT skills keep patting him on the back for being a very smart boy while MOT ones keep calling him a hero cop and a hustling superstar. Both sets of skills make for a pretty down-to-earth & result-oriented detecting machine, too - once you're past all the vomiting you're able to get the body down AND find all of its nasty little secrets by lunch day 1. Be sure to keep PSY down so as to stay away from those icky emotions and sail away on the sea of peace of mind and raw efficiency that only purestrain denial, dissociation and art snobbery can lay before you.

Yeah, that's pretty well described tbh. I was able to power through most quest in a jiffy with all of those traits working nicely together and I didn't need to feel like poo poo for Kim. Although I got to say that Drama is highly amusing and I need to do a character that fully specializes in it.

Are there certain traits that are practically useless for actually advancing in the game and are there only for the lulz?

Kobal2
Apr 29, 2019

DreadCthulhu posted:

Yeah, that's pretty well described tbh. I was able to power through most quest in a jiffy with all of those traits working nicely together and I didn't need to feel like poo poo for Kim. Although I got to say that Drama is highly amusing and I need to do a character that fully specializes in it.

Are there certain traits that are practically useless for actually advancing in the game and are there only for the lulz?

I'm fairly confident Electro never (or hardly ever) *actually* helps. Or when it does, it's only in a very tangential fashion, as in "help you detect the opportunity of scoring moar booze/smokes/drugs", which could in turn push you over the cliff for a given check. Very funny all around though, of course.
Half-Light also rarely seems really helpful - whenever it tells you to do A Thing, it's wrong/dumb/paranoid poo poo - it can even get you killed (in collusion with Physical Instrument, by pushing you to ASSERT DOMINANCE over the Hardies). It does read some stuff better than Big Brain though, so it's not a 100% fucko skill.
Esprit de Corps seems kind of pointless as well - it's good world building, flavour, atmosphere, subtle hints about Kim's behaviour and so on but it doesn't actually *do* poo poo as far as I can tell.

EDIT : Thought cabinet-wise, plenty of thoughts are taking the piss, but the only truly useless one is Homosexual Underground - it'll only make fun of you for spending 8 hours trying to puzzle out your own sexuality, and open up one line of dialogue with Kim who'll a) reiterate the 8h joke in disbelief and b) quickly state that yes he's gay and can we go back to copping now ?

Kobal2 fucked around with this message at 11:40 on Apr 9, 2021

Simone Magus
Sep 30, 2020

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The only thing that slightly annoys me is when there's no dialogue option that sincerely reflects my views but rather makes a joke of them. Like there's one dialogue with a response that's like "blah blah blah, FEMINISM!!" in a way that implies I'm picking the option because The Cop is pretending to be a feminist and I'm like... can't I just actually be a feminist? Dudes can be feminists. I even have a Thought about it.

Edit: not that I'm a dude

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World

Simone Magus posted:

The only thing that slightly annoys me is when there's no dialogue option that sincerely reflects my views but rather makes a joke of them. Like there's one dialogue with a response that's like "blah blah blah, FEMINISM!!" in a way that implies I'm picking the option because The Cop is pretending to be a feminist and I'm like... can't I just actually be a feminist? Dudes can be feminists. I even have a Thought about it.

Edit: not that I'm a dude

I think that's supposed to be a reflection of what a mess HARRY is. LIke anything he latches onto, even if it's something that's itself good in the world of the game or IRL, is going to be warped in his mind to some cartoonish extreme.

Vagabong
Mar 2, 2019
Its like the thought says, the Detective's RFA has been submerged under years of drinking, toxic masculinity, and various other forms of self-abuse, even before the catastrophic memory loss; it should be no surprise that his feminism is as incoherent as the rest of him.

Vagabong fucked around with this message at 14:12 on Apr 9, 2021

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?
Anyone feel like the voice acting isn’t that impressive? I wanted new areas and a continuation of the story.

Tylana
May 5, 2011

Pillbug

Brazilianpeanutwar posted:

Anyone feel like the voice acting isn’t that impressive? I wanted new areas and a continuation of the story.

It's solid, and more importantly just a lot, allowing more people to enjoy the game. In comparison I think I miss the old Cuno and Titus, but if I hadn't heard them before the new ones are fine. It would be nice if the console versions weren't as buggy as people seem to be reporting. But, other than the bugs, the DLC has delivered what it said it would.

I could probably give you like 95% odds the story of the Detective will never be continued. They had a cool world, and decided to make a buddy cop movie/game in it to make the world accessible. More of the world may appear in game form or other forms, but this story is done. Of course fans not knowing what made what they love good is human nature and the economic pressure of this might make them make another game with the detective, whereupon the chance that they've already blown all their good ideas about him may become brutally apparent.

EorayMel
May 30, 2015

WE GET IT. YOU LOVE GUN JESUS. Toujours des fusils Bullpup Français.

Kobal2 posted:

I'm fairly confident Electro never (or hardly ever) *actually* helps. Or when it does, it's only in a very tangential fashion, as in "help you detect the opportunity of scoring moar booze/smokes/drugs", which could in turn push you over the cliff for a given check. Very funny all around though, of course.
Half-Light also rarely seems really helpful - whenever it tells you to do A Thing, it's wrong/dumb/paranoid poo poo - it can even get you killed (in collusion with Physical Instrument, by pushing you to ASSERT DOMINANCE over the Hardies). It does read some stuff better than Big Brain though, so it's not a 100% fucko skill.
Esprit de Corps seems kind of pointless as well - it's good world building, flavour, atmosphere, subtle hints about Kim's behaviour and so on but it doesn't actually *do* poo poo as far as I can tell.

EDIT : Thought cabinet-wise, plenty of thoughts are taking the piss, but the only truly useless one is Homosexual Underground - it'll only make fun of you for spending 8 hours trying to puzzle out your own sexuality, and open up one line of dialogue with Kim who'll a) reiterate the 8h joke in disbelief and b) quickly state that yes he's gay and can we go back to copping now ?

You just need more points in your physical skills, bub:colbert:

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.
If you go for RFA the game implies Harry really, genuinely is a feminist, or at least was. Its just... yeah, dude is hosed up, so much like any other ideology he espouses it gets hosed up in turn, so it ends up being fairly indistinguishable from someone pretending to be a feminist because Harry is hosed up.

Also your thoughts argue about stuff and you dont have to say or agree with everything they suggest. Harry will think all sorts of weird, dumb, or lovely things, and your Harry can discard those thoughts as inappropriate despite your Authority skill insisting you have no choice to make this poor distraught woman cry until she wants to kill herself because she dared disrespect your Authority by turning you down for a date (it doesn't mention the reason though)

GlyphGryph fucked around with this message at 14:36 on Apr 9, 2021

man nurse
Feb 18, 2014


I’m on PS5 and I think I’ve encountered a bug that won’t let me progress. When I go to meet the lady who has your gun at the boardwalk late at night, some dialogue pops up as soon as I approach, but the prompt to continue never comes up, soft locking the game.

Is this a known bug? Do I have to just wait for a patch?

Lt. Lizard
Apr 28, 2013

Brazilianpeanutwar posted:

Anyone feel like the voice acting isn’t that impressive? I wanted new areas and a continuation of the story.

I would actually argue that it's pretty drat impressive, considering it's a Free DLC.

EorayMel
May 30, 2015

WE GET IT. YOU LOVE GUN JESUS. Toujours des fusils Bullpup Français.
There is a saying in Estonian: fear has big eyes. So Half Light and its big bulging fear-filled eyes may notice things the other skills miss.

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Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

Simone Magus posted:

The only thing that slightly annoys me is when there's no dialogue option that sincerely reflects my views but rather makes a joke of them. Like there's one dialogue with a response that's like "blah blah blah, FEMINISM!!" in a way that implies I'm picking the option because The Cop is pretending to be a feminist and I'm like... can't I just actually be a feminist? Dudes can be feminists. I even have a Thought about it.

Edit: not that I'm a dude

Harry is a walking political parody, which means his only possible approach to feminism is shrieking misogynist or accusing the mailbox of supporting the patriarchy.

If you want a balanced, functional man who promotes equal rights for everyone regardless of gender then Harry is not your dude.

Edit: If it makes you feel better, Harry makes fun of all political positions, especially the political position not to have a political position.

Cpt_Obvious fucked around with this message at 15:58 on Apr 9, 2021

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man nurse
Feb 18, 2014


man nurse posted:

I’m on PS5 and I think I’ve encountered a bug that won’t let me progress. When I go to meet the lady who has your gun at the boardwalk late at night, some dialogue pops up as soon as I approach, but the prompt to continue never comes up, soft locking the game.

Is this a known bug? Do I have to just wait for a patch?

I may have found a workaround for this in case anyone else is hampered by it. Apparently if you hold the left stick towards them as you approach and the dialogue begins it bypasses this bug. Gonna try it

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