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macabresca posted:Re: Polanski, the apologism is even worse in Poland. A while ago a film school that Polanski is an absolvent of invited him for a meeting, and a lot of students protested. The school director's answer was basically "How dare you believe in these old and false accusations, this place is free from politics, what do you know about true art anyway, you stupid stupid brats" These people like to forget that Polanski pled guilty and therefore IS guilty and he ran away before sentencing. It's not a false accusation, he's a sex offender.
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Apr 9, 2021 11:25
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macabresca posted:Re: Polanski, the apologism is even worse in Poland. A while ago a film school that Polanski is an absolvent of invited him for a meeting, and a lot of students protested. The school director's answer was basically "How dare you believe in these old and false accusations, this place is free from politics, what do you know about true art anyway, you stupid stupid brats" (I may be misremembering something, but I'm pretty sure that was the sentiment). Or you get film news websites or critics asking if "Hollywood is finally ready to forgive Polanski" whenever his movies come out, as if that was the problem (although tbf, I've seen these sorts of headlines concerning other directors, like Mel Gibson for example) or calling him enfant terrible. Well, did Polanski at least get pelted with trash while visiting the school?
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Apr 9, 2021 11:55
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Fil5000 posted:These people like to forget that Polanski pled guilty and therefore IS guilty and he ran away before sentencing. It's not a false accusation, he's a sex offender. I checked and he didn't call the allegations false, but "ambiguous and complex", and said that "he doesn't feel that he has any right to make a moral assessment on Polanski's life" on the basis of "shaky media reports". Here's the entire statement in English if you're interested https://www.filmschool.lodz.pl/en/news/1585,oswiadczenie-rektora-ws-wizyty-romana-polanskiego.html Libluini posted:Well, did Polanski at least get pelted with trash while visiting the school? The meeting was cancelled, fortunately Coincidentally there have been some allegations of abuse in this school. 'Nuff said, this guy is not the rector anymore macabresca fucked around with this message at 13:28 on Apr 9, 2021 |
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Apr 9, 2021 12:48
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Years back in Cinema Discusso people would criticize the judge because he wanted to throw the book at Polanski but the judge was absolutely right to want to toss that plea agreement it was an absolute joke considering what Polanski had actually done. And Polanski fled to France and shacked up with I think a 15 year old he was an unrepentant monster and creep.Yardbomb posted:The changes to the Tau are probably by far my most hated thing 40K had/has done in a long time, making the actually cool guys who were mainly out to like confederate and bolster other xeno races having problems with imperium and otherwise aggression and turning them and that into OOOHHHHH SCAAAWY BIG BWOTHERRRRRR BWAINWASHERSSSSSS can suck my entire rear end, the lamest hack grimdark injection. Also bring back the Squats GW you cowards. The Tau change is probably the dumbest thing after the Ollanius Pius retcons. The Tau themselves were already kinda brainwashed (though I can't recall if that's why other species would team up with them) they didn't have to throw in the re-education camps and poo poo.
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Apr 9, 2021 13:51
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Groovelord Neato posted:The Tau change is probably the dumbest thing after the Ollanius Pius retcons. The Tau themselves were already kinda brainwashed (though I can't recall if that's why other species would team up with them) they didn't have to throw in the re-education camps and poo poo. Yeah you already had the ethereal caste being very power-of-suggestion-y which was fine to give them just a little edge, but subtlety not allowed. Like Shas'O Kais is what I maintain my type of tau love for, his dialogue with Thule in Dark Crusade was great and established the feel I liked them so much for, it'll always be great: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrHhS5IkRR0 Thule: You will not squelch our faith so easily, alien. Kais: The Tau empire will respect your faith human, if you would only see reason! Thule: Our faith is in the emperor of man, alien. To bow to you is heresy. Kais: Then you follow the path of destruction. Thule: Better destruction, than bondage. Kais: So says the slave, to the free man. Like he gives the other commanders chance after chance as the HQ battles progress, often only going "Alright then, you've chosen fire warriors" when they're still playing hardass with him at their doorstep. And like the tau commanders actually caring about their dudes, from the same Thule dialogue too. Kais: Surrender human! If not for you, then for the greater good. Thule: The greater good is coming to you from my bolter, alien! Kais: Do the deaths of your soldiers mean so little to you? Are you that mad? Thule: Do the deaths of yours mean so much to you, alien? Are you that weak? Yardbomb fucked around with this message at 14:07 on Apr 9, 2021 |
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Apr 9, 2021 13:58
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Totally Not Mark did an immense 3-hour-long video on all of Attack on Titan; covering the entire anime, and then the manga the anime has yet to get to. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LFsVz0XyHs&hd=1 boy, he uh, he put that extensive video out right before the final chapter released, huh? *tugs collar* Oh well, it'll probably be a good video anyways, his videos generally are pretty great. that aot ending, though. I've seen worse endings, but that certainly ain't a good one
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Apr 9, 2021 15:01
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Captain Invictus posted:Totally Not Mark did an immense 3-hour-long video on all of Attack on Titan; covering the entire anime, and then the manga the anime has yet to get to. Yeah... I don't think we can defend AoT anymore, bud. Me stopping at the end of season 3 turned out to be a really good choice after seeing those spoilers.
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Apr 9, 2021 15:06
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it's one of those "you don't have to do much to wrap things up, you can leave things vague, animal house it even, but instead he did a magnificent own goal to retroactively significantly damage his series" sorts of endings. It's so inconsistent with the writing of the rest of the series I feel like something happened behind the scenes in the last chunk of chapters, the writing and story quality's been so weird as of late.
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Apr 9, 2021 15:09
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I had never seen the Attack on Titan (christ what a stupid name) manga until I saw some pages tweeted out the other day and man is it ugly.
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Apr 9, 2021 15:14
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Yeah, I like how the manga thread put out a bunch of nuclear theories and the actual ending somehow was even worse than those. Like the sheer level of "gently caress you all. i'm done!" in that ending would almost be admirable if the contents weren't so despicable and out of nowhere. Like I can't even defend the show anymore because it's clear that Isayama didn't know what he was doing or even if he did, just pointing to this ending just demolishes that talking point. Still, AoT up to the end of season 3 is very good anime and just pretend it ends there. No need to watch season 4. If I were that anime studio I'd scramble to rewrite that entire ending completely. I'd exercise creative control at that point and do better. Isayama's getting paid either way so no need to self-immolate. Edit: Season 3's ending is actually really good too. It's set up very early on and the conclusion is super satisfying. There's no stingers and actually a pretty nice ending to it all without completely resolving everything in the setting. Jimbot fucked around with this message at 15:20 on Apr 9, 2021 |
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Apr 9, 2021 15:16
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He's really, really good at kinetic action and creepy giant naked people. Everything else is poop from a butt, though he's definitely improved from the beginning. The official translation of the chapter makes things not quite as bad as the initial fan translations did, but on the scale of if you blew off only below the knee instead of your entire leg Edit: Jimbot posted:Yeah, I like how the manga thread put out a bunch of nuclear theories and the actual ending somehow was even worse than those. Like the sheer level of "gently caress you all. i'm done!" in that ending would almost be admirable if the contents weren't so despicable and out of nowhere. Like I can't even defend the show anymore because it's clear that Isayama didn't know what he was doing or even if he did, just pointing to this ending just demolishes that talking point. Captain Invictus fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Apr 9, 2021 |
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Apr 9, 2021 15:18
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Captain Invictus posted:He's really, really good at kinetic action and creepy giant naked people. Everything else is poop from a butt, though he's definitely improved from the beginning. The only stuff I saw was people talking and I was surprised how bad it looked.
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Apr 9, 2021 15:21
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I would get examples but I don't really care anymore I never watched game of thrones but I hear that ended real badly and I'm also seeing people compare this to that. I've definitely seen worse endings but this final chapter was very not good through like 90% of it Totally not mark is going to do a separate video on the final chapter later so that should be good for a laugh.
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Apr 9, 2021 15:27
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Ok what the gently caress actually happened in aot
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Apr 9, 2021 15:28
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Rocks fell, everyone self-canibalised.
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Apr 9, 2021 15:30
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Yeah, spoilers for the only vaguely interested like myself. After that Mother's Basement video on the godawful season 2 of Promised Neverland I want to see another trashfire ending.
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Apr 9, 2021 15:32
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Captain Invictus posted:He's really, really good at kinetic action and creepy giant naked people. Everything else is poop from a butt, though he's definitely improved from the beginning. I heard about Gabi and she does sound hella interesting but even at his best Isayama doesn't treat his women characters all that well and in those later chapters it seems like old favorites just get shafted big time. I rather forego seeing a really interesting character to preserve the old ones in my little time capsule. It's a brutal setting but some of those plot points I've read just.. suck. Junpei Hyde posted:Ok what the gently caress actually happened in aot Twincityhacker posted:Rocks fell, the world died, mega-fascists in charge, incel bird In a nutshell. I wrote this in a discord when the final chapter hit: You know you have that one awkward friend or acquaintance where you have that conversation while you're both high that you may end your friendship with them after where they say "you know man, the world is so hosed up. so much hate and poo poo man. i hate it. what would happen if we just, like, wiped out most of humanity. those who were left would just start over!" Isayama is that friend. Jimbot fucked around with this message at 15:37 on Apr 9, 2021 |
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Apr 9, 2021 15:34
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Incel bird?
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Apr 9, 2021 15:45
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Attack on Titan basically ended in accidental Hitler apologia where the "heroes" thank the guy who just wiped out most of humanity because "he felt like it"
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Apr 9, 2021 15:58
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Nice boat.
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Apr 9, 2021 16:01
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Junpei Hyde posted:Ok what the gently caress actually happened in aot 
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Apr 9, 2021 16:07
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I really don't like it when people try to find reasons why I should watch Roman Polanski or Woody Allen movies or whatever as some sort of a justification for them doing so (speaking as someone who used to watch them). The whole "gotta separate art from the artist" thing. Like, watch what you want when it comes to films, it's not something I care about -- but don't try and persuade me to as a way of justifying it to yourself. It's not something I particularly want to do.
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Apr 9, 2021 16:13
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If you want a good version of Macbeth, ignore the Roman Polanski version and watch the old Orson Welles version where his castle looks like a doom fortress on top of an evil mountain.
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Apr 9, 2021 16:15
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Kim Justice posted:I really don't like it when people try to find reasons why I should watch Roman Polanski or Woody Allen movies or whatever as some sort of a justification for them doing so (speaking as someone who used to watch them). The whole "gotta separate art from the artist" thing. Like, watch what you want when it comes to films, it's not something I care about -- but don't try and persuade me to as a way of justifying it to yourself. It's not something I particularly want to do. Yeah. Same. Fil5000 posted:These people like to forget that Polanski pled guilty and therefore IS guilty and he ran away before sentencing. It's not a false accusation, he's a sex offender. They don’t forget, many just don’t care.
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Apr 9, 2021 16:21
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Hey now, in Yang's defence that mobile space-fortress he blew up was trespassing on his property. At the very least, LOGH is one of the few long-running stories that ends well given that the writer laid the groundwork for every twist and turn well in advance. The writer also finished the book series before it was adapted, so eat poo poo GRRM. And Rothfuss too.
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Apr 9, 2021 16:22
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BigRed0427 posted:Incel bird? Eren goes on an incel rant about not wanting Misaka to move on after he's dead and at the end a bird comes by and fixes her scarf, implying Eren became a bird after death. Honestly, it's one of the funniest things I've ever seen. Inspector Gesicht posted:Hey now, in Yang's defence that mobile space-fortress he blew up was trespassing on his property. This is one series I really need to watch. I even have a picture that shows which order to watch everything in too. So I'm prepared!
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Apr 9, 2021 16:25
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i liked some aspects of woody allen movies and Antz is still a bafflingly but refreshingly pro-union film in spite of his involvement but I don't think there could possibly be a better example of the artist's rancid views seeping into their artistic output. in like every other film the guy made there's a creepy relationship dynamic.
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Apr 9, 2021 16:26
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Nice boat.
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Apr 9, 2021 16:37
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They are adapting Rothfuss serires?
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Apr 9, 2021 16:37
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Nah he just doesn't know how to count to three.
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Apr 9, 2021 16:43
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Twincityhacker posted:They are adapting Rothfuss serires? Some deal was supposed to happen with Sam Raimi (which my phones autocorrects to Sam Raisins) as a producer. But it either stymied or fell through at some point.
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Apr 9, 2021 16:45
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CYBEReris posted:i liked some aspects of woody allen movies and Antz is still a bafflingly but refreshingly pro-union film in spite of his involvement but I don't think there could possibly be a better example of the artist's rancid views seeping into their artistic output. in like every other film the guy made there's a creepy relationship dynamic. even fresh-faced junior high-schooler me could tell that antz was powerfully, shamelessly socialist a bug's life muttered a few lines about collective action into its palm, antz was full-on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U06jlgpMtQs
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Apr 9, 2021 16:49
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Antz is just a downright weird movie. Class warfare, propaganda, Starship Troopers termite war. Horrifying Sylvester Stallone ant.
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Apr 9, 2021 17:01
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I might be making this up/misremembering but didn't Rothfuss claim he had finished his whole trilogy before he got published?
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Apr 9, 2021 17:03
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people always harp on how awful the Antz designs are but they honestly aren't that far off from A Bug's Life for me that is to say that they're both awful
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Apr 9, 2021 17:30
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Well yeah, one is a woody Allen movie and the other has Kevin spacey
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Apr 9, 2021 17:34
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CYBEReris posted:i liked some aspects of woody allen movies and Antz is still a bafflingly but refreshingly pro-union film in spite of his involvement but I don't think there could possibly be a better example of the artist's rancid views seeping into their artistic output. in like every other film the guy made there's a creepy relationship dynamic. To say that you got to separate art from the artist when talking about Woody Allen movies is particularly hilarious. Those Woody Allen movies where Woody Allen stars as Woody Allen and is usually in some sort of weird/lovely relationship, almost always with women far younger than he is.
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Apr 9, 2021 17:38
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As a kid I preferred Antz. I dont know what that says about me. Arcsquad12 posted:Well yeah, one is a woody Allen movie and the other has Kevin spacey I mean I wouldnt go as far as to call a movie bad because it has bad actors in them (Bad in the terribleperson way, not in the badacting way). Woody Allen is of course on a whole other level of trying and failing to separate.
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Apr 9, 2021 17:42
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eRoYhTQDuo Thought Slime on this giant piece of garbage Nick Fuentes
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Apr 9, 2021 17:46
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I thought that said KYS and laughed.
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