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There's probably also a mod that just lets you place structures anywhere if that's something you'd like to be able to do. Less fiddly that way.
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Cardiovorax posted:There's probably also a mod that just lets you place structures anywhere if that's something you'd like to be able to do. Less fiddly that way. Slopeless was the de facto mod for something like this but it has since stopped being updated by its creator. I thought that one of the big modder packs picked it up but they might have just incorporated a similar style of building construction into their own mod configuring... so I am not sure about that. And anyway, if loving with and inevitably loving up stuff by forcing janky, game-breaking and physics-defying poo poo to work after painstaking effort isn't Kenshi, then what is?
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The reason why people don't like to base in the holy nation is the holy nation is hostile to everyone that isn't a white male. The holy nation however is great for is STEALING FROM. They have places you can go into, knock out one guy, and just steal everything and more importantly, is an excellent source of food. Seriously, you can get all your books and food just by stealing from the holy nation. There's a few inns that if your steal skill is high enough you can easily get a couple chests worth of rations and food. You just need to carry the food back and you can supply a town of 30+ people just with food stolen from holy nation.
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SugarAddict posted:The reason why people don't like to base in the holy nation is the holy nation is hostile to everyone that isn't a white male. The holy nation however is great for is STEALING FROM. They have places you can go into, knock out one guy, and just steal everything and more importantly, is an excellent source of food. This is how I got through most of mid game on my last playthrough, just finding the storehouse building of one of their mining camps and clearing it out completely. Even if you fail, you just get sent to Kenshi Training Camp for as long as you please, which is just an opportunity to steal more stuff. You can't lose!
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Apr 5, 2021 21:42
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McSlaughter posted:Protip for if you are building a base and want your guys to be able to ingress over bad or treacherous terrain in and around your base while not having to travel (accidentally due to pathfinding or otherwise) outside your walls where bandit, beast, and carrion bird frequent: you can build a wall up the side of an incline with a little creative pathfinding trickery (read: sometimes painstakingly constructing and deconstructing until you get it right) and then place ramps at the bottom and top of the slope to allow your people to go up and down without worrying about walking out of their base. Pretty slick idea, will steal it for the next time I do a base.
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Apr 5, 2021 23:11
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I wonder if there are any spots on the map you can only reach by building a wall walkway like that
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Apr 5, 2021 23:14
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Clark Nova posted:I wonder if there are any spots on the map you can only reach by building a wall walkway like that Further up the coast by the fishing village, a few minutes northwest where the terrain starts getting steep close to the beach I accidentally trapped a guy on a ledge doing that. I had eventually had to spawn everyone somewhere else because I couldn’t recreate the wall I had made
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Apr 5, 2021 23:23
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The map seems to make a point of not having too many elevated spots that it's impossible for you to get to the normal way, so I don't think there are a lot spots like that.
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Apr 5, 2021 23:27
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If you ever want some crazy gamer insanity look up Holy Nation or Anti-Slaver articles on the game’s wiki and read the comments. I’m uncomfortable enjoying the same game with these types of people.
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Apr 5, 2021 23:56
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In, I believe greenbeach, there is a place that is only accessible by one small slope.
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Apr 6, 2021 01:07
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buglord posted:If you ever want some crazy gamer insanity look up Holy Nation or Anti-Slaver articles on the game’s wiki and read the comments. I’m uncomfortable enjoying the same game with these types of people. Yeah same as the deus vult shitheads for Paradox games, you get the feeling that some people are into the game to live out their xenophobic, women-enslaving fantasy
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Apr 6, 2021 01:42
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Weirdly, a lot of my early games were as a solo female greenlander, and the Holy Nation's brutally violent misogyny totally flew over my head because I never once got harassed or treated poorly by them for being female. The actual in-game interactions for that kind of thing seem to either be very rare and/or limited to certain circumstances like base events. It wasn't until many games/hours later when I dug more into the written lore and got the full  of the situation.
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Apr 6, 2021 02:13
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The deceiver, the devil, the tempress female anti-god NARKO is where a lot of the anti-woman lore comes from. Flotsam ninjas4lyfe Narko is Okran spelled backwards
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:where's everyone's favorite town Later: Black Desert City for research/manufacturing/etc in the middle of the map, with someone running west to the abandoned mine that has a (semi-automated) Hybrid Mine and a generator that produces power without ever needing fuel. One worker can make all the building materials you'll ever need. McSlaughter posted:Slopeless was the de facto mod for something like this but it has since stopped being updated by its creator. I thought that one of the big modder packs picked it up but they might have just incorporated a similar style of building construction into their own mod configuring... so I am not sure about that. SugarAddict posted:The reason why people don't like to base in the holy nation is the holy nation is hostile to everyone that isn't a white male. The holy nation however is great for is STEALING FROM. They have places you can go into, knock out one guy, and just steal everything and more importantly, is an excellent source of food. I build a base with a watchtower/stationhouse that puts the map marker into the edge of HN territory, so I can use their farmland and they send raids at me, but I've built my walls out of cheese, so if meatbags want to make me worship their dumb whitey god they'll have to stand in an acid lake. Need to melt a lot of paladins to plate out my blasphemous PROTEC errorbots.
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Apr 6, 2021 04:40
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Get a very high skilled sneaker and steal beak thing eggs at night, they sell for 6250 cats each
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:So is the early game just finding a town, then finding bandits or raptors and training them onto the town guards until you've got a baseline of food and gear? Head straight for the fog lands and hang out in the city there. Princes show up in raids often and you can make a lot of money quickly.
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There's my handsome boy. Looking distressingly beefy. One of these days I'll go back and update him a little. I've actually been getting back into modding a bit recently.
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Where can I buy 1) a roomy building, near 2) plentiful leather and 3) a shop that sells research books ? THere's the grey desert waystation but leather doesn't spawn much there. Any other good spots?
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I'd say Squin but the leather is in the form of goats, and one doesn't gently caress with goats. Tho you can run over to the hives and let them kill beak things for you
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Apr 10, 2021 18:16
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If you're up for hunting for mats, the Holy Nation lands have packs of wild bulls which yield a decent amount of animal skins and meat. They aren't too dangerous after early game but they do have an AOE attack so caution is still advised.
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Yeah I just stole a bunch of naginatas, and I'm still an all human group at the moment. I'll find a holy nation building. I like squin in concept but the cliff walls mess with the camera too much. edit: There isn't a good holy nation town that has a tech shop and also a large building for sale, so I went with Squin after all. I'll just tough it out there for a while while I research everything. Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Apr 10, 2021 |
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I just zoom in some
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Where can I buy 1) a roomy building, near 2) plentiful leather and 3) a shop that sells research books ? My gut is telling me to check out swamp. Beak things, swamp raptors, and swamp turtles all got leather. I need to confirm if swamp tech store sells book, but I think it does.
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I forgot the UC town name but it's the capital in the lower right. You have all resources you need buyable there and there's enough power and a spacious house for sale.
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I know the Holy Nation hoards tech books in their little outposts. Not to buy though. Steal 'em.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Where can I buy 1) a roomy building, near 2) plentiful leather and 3) a shop that sells research books ? This mod fills a small hole in the world lore and adds a ranch settlement and a few hunter/trader camps near the Shek capitol (what are all those beefy sheks eating? it's beef!) that sell skins - you can turn these into leather with a little armor crafting labor that can be done in town. It's a good way to train novice armor crafters because the output doesn't have quality, it just takes time. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1480069836
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Zesty posted:I know the Holy Nation hoards tech books in their little outposts. That's the other nice thing about squin honestly. Run through the holy Nation, grab everything that isn't nailed down,.sell it in squint. Are there generally popular mods? The only one I'm using just adds zone labels to the map.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Are there generally popular mods? The only one I'm using just adds zone labels to the map. Head over to the Kenshi LP by Leal: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3882213&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1 Has a list of mods the OP uses (some of them are depreciated) and various other stuff in it and they generally tried to show everything the game has to offer. As for meat and leather, easiest way to get meat and leather is to head slighty west to the blood rain place where all the beak things are. Either you fight and kill them or you drag them to the hive village and let them kill it and loot it afterwords. Just be sure to have a trader's backpack (ones that have stacking), because they have alot of skin and meat.
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Peeler machine produces animal skin right? 
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:That's the other nice thing about squin honestly. Run through the holy Nation, grab everything that isn't nailed down,.sell it in squint. Here's what I usually post when asked. It might be a little dated but if you feel like doing a little research you might find the reasoning of why you'd want it and maybe some alternatives if they aren't available. Zesty posted:Here's a bunch of mods I used. Don't blindly add things. Read things through. Some things I posted are not compatible with some things McSlaughter posted. Living World, Reactive World, and Genesis seem like huge sweeping changes that would not be compatible with each other. Personally, I'm waiting for Lost in the Ashlands (Procedural Quests/Wars/Reputation/Combat Overhaul) to do a new playthrough, but he said it'd be ready by the end of February and it's not here so who knows. Zesty fucked around with this message at 23:47 on Apr 10, 2021 |
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:That's the other nice thing about squin honestly. Run through the holy Nation, grab everything that isn't nailed down,.sell it in squint. I've been using the Kenshi: Age of Blood and Sand Collection it's a nice change from vanilla. It adds new factions, new cities, rebuilds the Hub it's like 300+ mods though it might be too much. One tip, you can clear the stolen status of an item by putting it into a proper storage container that you built. Like Weapons into Weapon cabinet, Armor into Armor Chest etc...
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That sounds right. It's been a bit, but I recall the game really wanting you to make your own bases.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I can't put stone / ore processors inside purchased buildings? There are a couple of nice mods that add miniaturized indoor versions of drills/processors and similar industrial buildings. Other than that yeah you have to deal with raiders and/or tax bullshit. If you really want an easy time with raiders, there's a relatively minor glitch that lets you bend some of the more arbitrary restrictions on where you can build. silentsnack posted:Suppose I want to build on the hill just north of Mongrel, where I can completely ignore cannibal raids because fogmen and Shinobi Guards make great meatshields. Except the game won't let me, because each "town" has some arbitrary exclusion radius that goes far beyond the town itself. silentsnack posted:Welp here's a new one: a workaround for times when you want to make peace with a faction, but their pacifier refuses to talk to you because you're allied to a faction they hate and/or you keep beating up their nobles (or because the faction doesn't have any pacifiers): kidnap the pacifier (or gang boss), shove them in a Peeler Machine, then bandage them. Because imprisoning someone with [diplomatic status] gives you instant -100 relations but giving first aid raises relations up as high as ~+5 in just a few seconds. Optionally you can take them back out and release them. Combining the first and third bugs lets you build a fortress *around the outside* of Mongrel/Shark/Mourn or other neutral/friendly towns like TechHunter outposts or Hiver villages, with town guards that help in defense. And since the second bug lets you make almost any faction neutral... team up with some neutralized bandits/ninjas or Venge/Ashlands murderbots so they ignore you, but still beat up any raiders (and help you steal from caravans) I'm pretty sure these bugs were all reported years ago but never got fixed, so they can be effectively considered official unplanned """features""" and exploiting them isn't cheating but just an optional part of the Kenshi Jankiness Simulator experience.
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I mean if you're willing to do that kind of obviously exploitive poo poo just use a mod, nobody's going to make fun of you.
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The only time I had outpost markers overlap it completely broke the job AI. Nobody would pull items from boxes to do anything anymore
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Flesh Forge posted:I mean if you're willing to do that kind of obviously exploitive poo poo just use a mod, nobody's going to make fun of you. Yeah, maybe I shouldn't have left it up to the reader to infer that post was meant to illustrate why it would be pointless to avoid mods due to concerns about whether a quality-of-life mod breaks game balance: the game is already such an unbalanced wonky mess that even when trying to stay within the rules in a 100% vanilla playthrough you might find yourself accidentally using exploits if you encounter an unexpected quirky game mechanic and don't immediately stop to investigate.
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