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pop fly to McGillicutty posted:I had a woman (who's a supervisor of another department) start SCREAMING at me after I told her I got the vaccine. She kept saying "you can't make me get it!!" Because I told her "you're more likely to die from Covid than from an adverse reaction". I never told her to get it. Just said it was foolish. She was furious. I could see her shooting me or someone else. I've seen behavior similar to this with addicts and stuff, and it's also part of a gaslighting technique really. If you say something that contravenes their version of reality, they flip out, to condition you not to challenge them. Like my mom is an alcoholic, and she will often assert things that are not true, and the real answer is "because she got drunk" and then if you say "are you sure that's why you have the symptoms 100% congruent with a hangover" then she gets really upset, though usually it's putatively about something else.
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Ultimately, it's the fuckers who knew what they were doing when they weaponized this insanity that should face the harshest consequences if, in some fantasy world, those ever got meted out. Roger Stone, Jim Watkins, etc. should be tortured for as long as possible to even begin to match the horror* they and other truly sick, evil, grifting fuckers like him have wrought. *Not that we should ever do this, of course. The idea is cathartic.
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Halloween Jack posted:This seems like a pointless argument. In what way can any individual American "take responsibility" for imperialism? Well, not chanting "USA USA USA" all the god damned time and calling minorities and poor people lazy who get what they deserve because they don't work hard enough is a start. Basically, not being a conservative rear end in a top hat who lacks any trace of empathy and doesn't run around with ALL LIVES MATTER bumper stickers.
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BiggerBoat posted:Well, not chanting "USA USA USA" all the god damned time and calling minorities and poor people lazy who get what they deserve because they don't work hard enough is a start. Basically, not being a conservative rear end in a top hat who lacks any trace of empathy and doesn't run around with ALL LIVES MATTER bumper stickers. Not empty quoting
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I'm really having trouble feeling any sympathy for the people who get sucked into this nonsense. I mean, it's just so loving stupid. Like, absolutely brain dead dumb. Like I want to grift these people because they seem to have no goddamn common sense, but I just cant bring myself to do it because it'd be like scamming a child. Like these beliefs are the dumbest playground rumor nonsense you'd hear in like 4th grade. This is like "if you swallow a watermelon seed a watermelon will grow in your stomach" level bullshit is bringing the world to its knees and killing people. gently caress.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/jimstewartson/status/1382128591484297216?s=19 Also, there's a podcast about The Garden: https://open.spotify.com/show/4CqU4Gd9UbuP2NHnbZoKLp e: poo poo, if anyone really wants to dive: https://linktr.ee/culttokhypehouse Uglycat fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Apr 14, 2021 |
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Agents are GO! posted:I'm really having trouble feeling any sympathy for the people who get sucked into this nonsense. I mean, it's just so loving stupid. Like, absolutely brain dead dumb. Like I want to grift these people because they seem to have no goddamn common sense, but I just cant bring myself to do it because it'd be like scamming a child. Like these beliefs are the dumbest playground rumor nonsense you'd hear in like 4th grade. This is like "if you swallow a watermelon seed a watermelon will grow in your stomach" level bullshit is bringing the world to its knees and killing people. gently caress.
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Hey look, the CIA says Q is Ron Watkins https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/1382352624603774983?s=19
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Agents are GO! posted:I'm really having trouble feeling any sympathy for the people who get sucked into this nonsense. I mean, it's just so loving stupid. Like, absolutely brain dead dumb. Like I want to grift these people because they seem to have no goddamn common sense, but I just cant bring myself to do it because it'd be like scamming a child. Like these beliefs are the dumbest playground rumor nonsense you'd hear in like 4th grade. This is like "if you swallow a watermelon seed a watermelon will grow in your stomach" level bullshit is bringing the world to its knees and killing people. gently caress. I have trouble believing that a lot of these people truly believe any of this poo poo at all. It's more like a performative shared lie so they can feel like they have some sort of power and morality. That article comes to mind about obvious lie that the CEO of Proctor and Gamble declared his allegiance to Satan on Oprah, which, I'm sure, these exact same people claimed to believe and spread as far as they could so they could perpetuate the false narrative and make themselves feel/look good by comparison. Same thing likely applies to this whole mess, just on a larger scale. https://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2008/09/08/false-witnesses/ So, I think it's less about authoritarian idiots just believing anything, and more just an incredibly disingenuous lie they like to spread so they can feel less like the terrible people that they know they are, in comparison to pizza parlor blood sucking kitten burners, etc. Mercury_Storm fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Apr 14, 2021 |
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pop fly to McGillicutty posted:Hey look, the CIA says Q is Ron Watkins They realise that Q has not always been Watkins tho right?
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exmachina posted:They realise that Q has not always been Watkins tho right? This is a bit in the weeds, I think. To be like "in the early stages it was an amorphous trial balloon that would eventually turn into the weaponized poo poo-grift operation we all know it to be." I mean yeah, sure, but once it did coalesce it was the Watkins'.
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pseudanonymous posted:Just waiting for the q-anoners to come up with I am Spartacus. Take a fall for a friend? We're talking about conservatives here.
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Mercury_Storm posted:I have trouble believing that a lot of these people truly believe any of this poo poo at all. It's more like a performative shared lie so they can feel like they have some sort of power and morality. That article comes to mind about obvious lie that the CEO of Proctor and Gamble declared his allegiance to Satan on Oprah, which, I'm sure, these exact same people claimed to believe and spread as far as they could so they could perpetuate the false narrative and make themselves feel/look good by comparison. Same thing likely applies to this whole mess, just on a larger scale. quote:The clearest illustration of this was an outbreak of Satanic Panic a generation after the Salem witch trials, one which lasted longer and was far deadlier and more gruesome in its toll: the New York Conspiracy Panic of 1741. The purported cause of this panic was a massive Jesuit conspiracy to lead New York City’s 2,000 enslaved persons in a revolt. There was never any evidence that such a conspiracy or revolt was really being planned, but mass hysteria seized white New Yorkers nonetheless because they all knew, with utter clarity and certainty, that a lethal slave revolt was what they deserved — what they had earned and what justice itself demanded if the most evident wrongs in their city were to be righted. At least in part, they believed in Q because they'd rather believe in satanic adrenochrome tunnel Clinton Illuminati cabinet retailers than that Black lives matter.
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Guavanaut posted:The same guy wrote a recent piece on moral panics that directly discusses Q and and how this idea can move from "pretending to believe the dumbest poo poo and not really doing much about it other than not buying Tide maybe" into actual real world violence. Yeah, I think a previous post comparing this type of behaviour to gaslighting is pretty apt. As they get more and more desperate to defend their false narrative and distorted worldview when it becomes untenable, they'll resort to violence to avoid literal truth or justice.
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Dang It Bhabhi! posted:This is a bit in the weeds, I think. To be like "in the early stages it was an amorphous trial balloon that would eventually turn into the weaponized poo poo-grift operation we all know it to be." I mean yeah, sure, but once it did coalesce it was the Watkins'. 4chan and 8chan use tripcodes to identify unique users, so by the time Q is posting as Q, we can say with confidence that either one person or a close-knit group sharing a password are authoring these posts. Watkins basically highjacked Q, either with permission of the original authors or not, when he launched 8kun after the chch murders.
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There's a good Twitter account that analyzes the earliest Q drops. When Q first started posting, they didn't use a Tripcode. However, at the time 4chan's /pol/ had an ID system that's still active to this day. The ID is similar to a Tripcode, except every user is assigned one and it's persistent throughout the thread/session. Q's earliest posts are identified by the board ID, but it changes from thread-to-thread. AFAIK this is why there are 'lost' Q posts, because there's no consistent ID to search for and Q didn't always sign their posts. https://twitter.com/QOrigins/status/1311144252923981824
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Euphoriaphone posted:There's a good Twitter account that analyzes the earliest Q drops. When Q first started posting, they didn't use a Tripcode. However, at the time 4chan's /pol/ had an ID system that's still active to this day. The ID is similar to a Tripcode, except every user is assigned one and it's persistent throughout the thread/session. Thanks for the link. I am always interested in internet anthropology, and Q will be a study for a while I think.
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exmachina posted:They realise that Q has not always been Watkins tho right? possibly. early Q was probably some shitposters copying off each other. the one that pushed it to 8chan/etc was watkins and the most poisonous one.
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Despera posted:Figured Q stopped posting cause he knew the FBI was going to be on his rear end soon. Did Q actually stop posting? Sorry if this is a dumb question but I tried Googling if Q still posts and I can't really find anything other than the fact that you can only visit 8chan via a tor web browser lol. That must have completely killed traffic for the site, no? Like has Q posted since January 6th? Serious question, sorry I'm legitimately finding it difficult to Google for some reason.
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pop fly to McGillicutty posted:Take a fall for a friend? We're talking about conservatives here. For sure if they see it that way. But what if they see it as patriotism, and most importantly, think there will be no consequences? They'd probably live-stream themselves taking the pledge. I mean, you'd think nobody would be stupid enough to proudly film themselves doing a treason, except those people who invaded the US capitol, doing a treason, live-streaming it.
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Mercury_Storm posted:I have trouble believing that a lot of these people truly believe any of this poo poo at all. It's more like a performative shared lie so they can feel like they have some sort of power and morality. That article comes to mind about obvious lie that the CEO of Proctor and Gamble declared his allegiance to Satan on Oprah, which, I'm sure, these exact same people claimed to believe and spread as far as they could so they could perpetuate the false narrative and make themselves feel/look good by comparison. Same thing likely applies to this whole mess, just on a larger scale. lmao gently caress i learnt something new, apparently there used to be a rumor circulating that P&G CEO worshipped satan, and this turned out to have been spread by Amway distributors (a company that is actually run by a family of blood-drinking satanists). Sometimes there is an actual financial incentive for conspiracists to conspire to spread conspiracy theories.
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pseudanonymous posted:For sure if they see it that way. But what if they see it as patriotism, and most importantly, think there will be no consequences? They'd probably live-stream themselves taking the pledge. You're not wrong
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exmachina posted:4chan and 8chan use tripcodes to identify unique users, so by the time Q is posting as Q, we can say with confidence that either one person or a close-knit group sharing a password are authoring these posts. Right I think it comes down to an understanding of when was Q's influence over the credulous at critical mass and who was in control during that time frame. My understanding is that the Watkins' had hijacked it already by the time the dude tried the Hoover Dam thing in June 2018. Is that incorrect/am I looking at it wrong?
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Moose-Alini posted:Q officially hasn’t posted since December 8 So do the Q people think he’s dead/under arrest by THEM/secretly in hiding/ascended to another plane of existence/something equally stupid?
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Valtonen posted:Around the US* Oh, don't worry about that. We're really good at exporting our misery.
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Watkins could have simply Posted through it, but he knows everyone knows the open secret that Watkins is Q, and he would rather slink back into the shadows and pretend that Q was all the friends we made along the way, than have the entire withering gaze of the mainstream media directed at him and all his hosed up pecularities of being a sexpat living in the phillipines. I mean CNN loving revels every time some stupid chud gets arrested for the Capitol riot, no matter how small their contribution. Watkins could not withstand it.
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Phobophilia posted:lmao gently caress i learnt something new, apparently there used to be a rumor circulating that P&G CEO worshipped satan, and this turned out to have been spread by Amway distributors (a company that is actually run by a family of blood-drinking satanists). The lead industry spread fluoridation panic, mineral interests spread catastrophism/infinite earth as well as the dumb version of peak oil, flat earth is spread by sermon-sellers. Big Hubris fucked around with this message at 10:11 on Apr 15, 2021 |
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tigersklaw posted:So do the Q people think he’s dead/under arrest by THEM/secretly in hiding/ascended to another plane of existence/something equally stupid? Like, a new popular theory is that Q predicted Prince Phillip's death a year ago. The prophesies are more important than the prophet
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tigersklaw posted:So do the Q people think he’s dead/under arrest by THEM/secretly in hiding/ascended to another plane of existence/something equally stupid? No, the deep state could never stop him. He's just in hiding, you see. Any day now...
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Froghammer posted:Honestly? They don't know or care where Q is now, because what is and always has been the most important is baking the drops. It looks to me like they've largely moved on from even needing Q himself anymore. They've cut out the middleman and have gone straight to "making up whatever they want, and declaring it true".
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Froghammer posted:Honestly? They don't know or care where Q is now, because what is and always has been the most important is baking the drops. That’s incredible. He knew a 99 year old man would die? My eyes are now open
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tigersklaw posted:That’s incredible. He knew a 99 year old man would die? My eyes are now open It was an impressive prediction though. He only died because the adrenochrome got held up in the Suez Canal during a military operation by patriots, which we knew would happen because the ships name, Ever Given, was a reference to Hilary Clinton's Secret Service code name.
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