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Thanks. I saw that one but wasn't sure. It's probably better than the one I chose, lol. One I chise, I watched her play for two hours just to see her hit Cuno after calling him a little poo poo, so I abandoned that one. I love Cuno (and hate/have a bad history with child abuse (as the victim)), so gently caress that. Gonna go watch Pat, now. Edit: the other one suggested I might check out, too, but I was really wanting it to be a Final Cut one, cause my headache has me light sensitive and I'm listening a little more than watching (I am familiar enough with the game and its events and stuff to where this doesn't bother me). I know it might sound stupid, lol. I just hurt too much to play, but am too in love with the game to get my mind off it, so I thought I'd just experience how others play this marvel (which is neat, even if some people wanna hit my sweet bebe speed demon Cuno) Edit 2: Help! Somebody cut my head off! It's trying to murder the rest of me! (Quoted for how painfully appropriate/fitting that line is for me rn) Terra-da-loo! fucked around with this message at 05:20 on Apr 17, 2021 |
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So, has anyone managed to get the trophy/achievement for the fascism vision quest? It seems like it's locked behind an extremely steep Endurance red check (one whose odds don't change even when I add 3 to my total Endurance score). Am I missing something on how to get it to pop?
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Apr 17, 2021 06:47
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Epic High Five posted:Watching Cohh go through this has been great, every time he is faced with a bunch of political responses he declares them all to be communism and goes with the boring cop one His absolute refusal to click on any dialogue option with the word "communism" in it, regadless of the context in which it comes up is completely hilarious and I would be almost sure its just a comedy bit, if I didnt know its 100% genuine.
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Lt. Lizard posted:His absolute refusal to click on any dialogue option with the word "communism" in it, regadless of the context in which it comes up is completely hilarious and I would be almost sure its just a comedy bit, if I didnt know its 100% genuine. Sounds funny but also annoying and ignorant af to me. Guy I'm watching rn is alright so far. He's doing a totally blind playthrough. I dunno anything about him though, never watched him before. Hoping he isn't some shitheaded chud and I just haven't seen the evidence of it yet. Mad Matt Lugos?
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ShakeZula posted:So, has anyone managed to get the trophy/achievement for the fascism vision quest? It seems like it's locked behind an extremely steep Endurance red check (one whose odds don't change even when I add 3 to my total Endurance score). Am I missing something on how to get it to pop? If it's like the Communism one then yeah you'll have to pass all associated checks with the quest.
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Apr 17, 2021 10:05
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Bifauxnen posted:This is an LP of the original game though, so it won't have any of the Final Cut voices. I also really like Keith, and hate him at the same time. His heart's in the right place for sure, his brain as well - he's very good about talking about what he's thinking about a given development in term of immediate feelings, gut feelings ; and he's also good about what he thinks about that both within the context of the game and from a more meta perspective (what he thinks the game/the game devs are thinking ; what he expects going forward) All of that is good. And at the same time... gently caress, but there is *so much* he just doesn't know or understand - general culture stuff, stuff everybody knows, stuff everybody *should* know, stuff someone like him should know intimately. It's infuriating watching such a bright dude miss references all the time, it really is. And it's weird how he's at the same time so bright yet so intellectually lazy. This has been my wanking in public, please don't revenge porn it.
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Apr 17, 2021 11:52
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World War Mammories posted:oh sheesh I missed this reply. Very meta theory: Dolores Dei is the personification of Role-Playing Games. She's interested in wargames, but is depicted with a toy soldier, singular, because that's the unit of control in a role playing game, unlike a wargame. Her glowing lungs are a reflection of the fact that she brought talking and acting to the traditional wargame. It's why in the dream, she can describe Harry as working top to bottom through a list of dialogue options and chastise him for it, because that's not really roleplaying. Before her, mankind was limited, like all units in a wargame, by the bounds of the map. Dolores Dei was the force that was born out of a drive to create new worlds, to explore the places which are not already on the map. And in a role playing game, the premise and setting are handed down to you from on high by the DM. If the premise of the setting is a fantasy feudal society, you will make characters who reflect that reality*, and that's Moralism at it's core. And heck, if there's one singular piece of RPGs that have penetrated into the cultural mainstream, it's Morality, isn't it? Even if you've never played an RPG, you can probably read an alignment chart. *Yes, you can make a D&D campaign about, say, rogue covert mercenaries investigating a global vampire conspiracy in present day Europe, but for the love of god don't. Just play Night's Black Agents instead.
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Apr 17, 2021 12:09
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Terra-da-loo! posted:Sounds funny but also annoying and ignorant af to me. you'd think so but the levels it is happening on make it way funnier than it is frustrating, like the last one I remember was I think with Joyce, where it was a big political choice thing of "those women and foreigners are responsible for all of this", "they just didn't hustle and grind enough, they didn't want it", "literally grind up the ownership class", and "perhaps the solution is to consider all of this and think hard about it", then he declared them all to be the communist options and went with the "gosh everybody really is nuts aren't they" option I can't complain or anything because he's loving the game and showing it to 10k+ people per stream, and honestly it's really interesting to watch a centrist/moralist play through when most others play turbo commies by default
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Apr 17, 2021 13:04
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Only thing I know about CohnCarnage is that he’s apparently high profile enough to have gotten a cameo in Cyberpunk2077. Which I am sorry, but it doesn’t hold a candle to Jesse Cox’s.
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Apr 17, 2021 13:46
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Kobal2 posted:I also really like Keith, and hate him at the same time. His heart's in the right place for sure, his brain as well - he's very good about talking about what he's thinking about a given development in term of immediate feelings, gut feelings ; and he's also good about what he thinks about that both within the context of the game and from a more meta perspective (what he thinks the game/the game devs are thinking ; what he expects going forward) this is my exact experience with any Keith Ballard LP lmao and his Disco Elysium one is really pronounced about it. It's fine not to know stuff but Keith seems very convinced of his own big-brain all-encompassing knowledge and so the frequent ignorance comes across badly, because it's backed by entirely unearned self-confidence. A dose of humility would do him good
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Apr 17, 2021 14:01
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John Charity Spring posted:this is my exact experience with any Keith Ballard LP lmao and his Disco Elysium one is really pronounced about it. It's fine not to know stuff but Keith seems very convinced of his own big-brain all-encompassing knowledge and so the frequent ignorance comes across badly, because it's backed by entirely unearned self-confidence. A dose of humility would do him good Not sure I perceive the same self-confidence or arrogance - like I said, to me it's laziness. He'll come across something foreign he can't pronounce or something he recognizes is a reference but doesn't know exactly what to, and he'll go "ha ha, I don't know what that is !" and just... leaves that there. End of. SO loving look it up, why don't you ?!, grumbles I, wanting to shake him. And it's frustrating to me because I know what that is, means, and/or refers to and I'd be interested to know what *he* would have thought about it if only he'd made the goddamn effort...
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Apr 17, 2021 14:57
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Very similar to the "podcaster not familiar with a concept you know very well" anxiety disorder.
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The reflex of "This is obvious to ME!" can lead to a lot of wanting to scream at recorded footage, I try to work out why I know it, and often find it's just bullshit coincidence. Still this discussion does make me glad that SA introduced me to LPs and not like, youtube. Because an informative LP poking at all the cool corners and references is so much more my jam than charming person bumblefucks about. Though both do have value and entertainment.
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Kobal2 posted:Not sure I perceive the same self-confidence or arrogance - like I said, to me it's laziness. He'll come across something foreign he can't pronounce or something he recognizes is a reference but doesn't know exactly what to, and he'll go "ha ha, I don't know what that is !" and just... leaves that there. End of. this is a really weird thing to get angry about, i gotta tell you.
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Apr 17, 2021 15:15
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UnknownMercenary posted:If it's like the Communism one then yeah you'll have to pass all associated checks with the quest. Hmm, then I'm wondering if the last one is only impossible because I failed a check with Rene earlier Guess I'll try it again. Thanks!
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Apr 17, 2021 15:41
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I didn't talk to rene during my fascism quest, I only passed the suggestion check with Measurehead then the endurance check in the mirror. I think the fascism achievement needs you to get the sun portrait(aka pass the endurance mirror check), but I did get the fascism achievement No clue about the other ones, or maybe achievements themselves are also bugged. I did a hastened run without even clicking on the body, got to the end and credits, no achievement popup. Don't know if you are even allowed to go in the yard with Cuno, or I technically did all the criteria right but the achievement didn't want to cooperate.
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Reveilled posted:Very meta theory: Dolores Dei is the personification of Role-Playing Games. She's interested in wargames, but is depicted with a toy soldier, singular, because that's the unit of control in a role playing game, unlike a wargame. Her glowing lungs are a reflection of the fact that she brought talking and acting to the traditional wargame. It's why in the dream, she can describe Harry as working top to bottom through a list of dialogue options and chastise him for it, because that's not really roleplaying. Before her, mankind was limited, like all units in a wargame, by the bounds of the map. Dolores Dei was the force that was born out of a drive to create new worlds, to explore the places which are not already on the map. And in a role playing game, the premise and setting are handed down to you from on high by the DM. If the premise of the setting is a fantasy feudal society, you will make characters who reflect that reality*, and that's Moralism at it's core. As fun as this would be, Dolores is the personification of the status quo. The reason she loves pieces and figurines is that the powers that be treat individuals like objects to be moved and removed so as to make sure that nothing fundamentally changes. Her glowing lungs are for the words she speaks in lieu of action, "I'm so sorry you're hungry, I feel bad!" instead of actually supplying food.
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The main problem being that she represented a massive change to the status quo in multiple ways. Her arrival heralded the beginning of a new age.
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I watched a bit of the Keith Ballard LP but then he refused to use the expression Klassje, and despite having high MOT didn't try and slip away from Garte and didn't even consider shooting the body down so my feelings are mixed
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Apr 17, 2021 18:20
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GlyphGryph posted:The main problem being that she represented a massive change to the status quo in multiple ways. Her arrival heralded the beginning of a new age. Yes, she was the new status quo. And her pregnancy represents the next status quo that will exist after the success/failure of the revolution. At least, that's my reading of it
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Apr 18, 2021 00:06
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Is it just me or are there two Shivers checks at the Feld mural now?
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Apr 18, 2021 03:38
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Punching cuno is the correct choice but man does the game make me feel bad about it
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a fatguy baldspot posted:Punching cuno is the correct choice but man does the game make me feel bad about it If you think that's bad you should try shooting Cunoesse. Game over if you hit her but missing is hilariously hosed up too.
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Apr 18, 2021 04:18
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I danced so hard I spoke to the city of Revachol. She told me she loved me.
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Apr 18, 2021 04:47
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Measurehead VA is incredible though. I honestly feel like I haven't been pulled in by a game for a long time and I really appreciate ZA/UM for making this and hope there is another opportunity to jump into this world. SilkyP fucked around with this message at 06:26 on Apr 18, 2021 |
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I spent an unmentionable amount of time tonight trying to save scum the red check where you call Kim a racist name if you fail (the only good save scum & only one I’ll do) before realizing I’m internalizing the thought The Precarious World, which makes you fail all red checks while it’s in progress. I was convinced I was either the unluckiest man alive or the game had a secret anti-save scum feature for that check.
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a fatguy baldspot posted:Punching cuno is the correct choice but man does the game make me feel bad about it There is absolutely *nothing* correct about punching Cuno  ...well, maybe if your relevant stat is so low you have no chance of succeeding and end up making an idiot of yourself, then it's allowed. I love how Kim just absolutely refuses to help you get up if you do so too.
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Apr 18, 2021 08:34
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Being empathetic and talking with the Cun is the way to do it every time.
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Being able to get Cuno to promise stop using slurs felt like the biggest achievement of my playthrough.
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Somfin posted:The fact that it's one of the early checks that is extremely fail forward, and also considering who Klaasje is and what she's been doing, I'm not convinced that passing it would be anything more than just, y'know, a hungover dude semi-competently hitting on a lady on a mezzanine, which she's probably excruciatingly used to. Your reward for passing that check is you do the "Talk to Klaasje about Sunday night without Kim around" quest right then and there.
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Yeah if you successfully use the expression on her, she tells you that that's just the aftereffects of the booze and drugs making you horny, although a straight-up legendary encyclopaedia check tells you that this is actually the opposite of the truth and you can ask her about all the horrible things you were yelling last night.
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NewMars posted:Yeah if you successfully use the expression on her, she tells you that that's just the aftereffects of the booze and drugs making you horny, although a straight-up legendary encyclopaedia check tells you that this is actually the opposite of the truth and you can ask her about all the horrible things you were yelling last night. Isn't legendary 14 or more (base stat of 8 for passives), and doesn't she leave once you go downstairs and meet Kim? How do you get that legitimately? Even six INT with the signature point in encyclopedia only gives you 7, and I don't think there's enough EXP you can get before she leaves to squeeze in that extra point
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Ok, Im dumb: theres was supposed to be a fast travel thing now, right? Where is it? How can I use it?
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Apr 18, 2021 13:54
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TIL there's a mysterious pair of eyes you can talk to, only on Day 1 and only if you pass a very high Perception check for that early in the game https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mE_Mf5syq0I
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Elias_Maluco posted:Ok, Im dumb: theres was supposed to be a fast travel thing now, right? I think you need to buy the map from the bookstore. Then you'll have travel points between the whirling, the fishing town, and the church.
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Big Mouth Billy Basshole posted:I think you need to buy the map from the bookstore. Then you'll have travel points between the whirling, the fishing town, and the church. I already have the map for a few days But how exactly I use it? I mean, what button I press and etc edit: I got to say I was expecting some more QoL stuff on the final cut. Like inventory sorting, for ex. Or a dialog log Elias_Maluco fucked around with this message at 14:13 on Apr 18, 2021 |
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Big Mouth Billy Basshole posted:I think you need to buy the map from the bookstore. Then you'll have travel points between the whirling, the fishing town, and the church. Also you have to be standing at one of the three points to fast travel to the others. But yeah, open the map screen. J button and tab over or press M.
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Well I use the map all the time but somehow it seems I missed the fast travel
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EorayMel posted:Isn't legendary 14 or more (base stat of 8 for passives), and doesn't she leave once you go downstairs and meet Kim? How do you get that legitimately? Even six INT with the signature point in encyclopedia only gives you 7, and I don't think there's enough EXP you can get before she leaves to squeeze in that extra point I don't think it was actually legendary, but it was really high for a fairly elementary fact. Although given that it's her, maybe that's not unwarranted.
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repiv posted:TIL there's a mysterious pair of eyes you can talk to, only on Day 1 and only if you pass a very high Perception check for that early in the game what the gently caress
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