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Maxwell Lord posted:"Due to injuries sustained in an accident during the production of The Farmer (1977), George Memmoli had to decline the bit part of Travis' disturbed passenger, who was ultimately played by Martin Scorsese."
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mind the walrus posted:I was doing an educational watch of this with some people because it turns out a distressing number of young men think that Joker (2019) was spontaneously formed out of whole cloth, and it occurred to me-- why the gently caress doesn't Scorsese get the same heat for this scene that Tarantino (rightfully) does for doing the exact same "I get to say the n-word!" poo poo in Pulp Fiction? Scorsese also wasn't the script writer.
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also, like, on a basic level scorsese briefly playing a lovely dude for a film and (presumably, unless you're one of the REAL WEIRD marvel attack squad people) not actually believing/wanting to do the poo poo the character said is different than a white director/scriptwriter coming up with a white dude who says a bunch of slurs unnecessarily and then playing that character
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El Fideo posted:Having that for Babylon 5 was a godsend. Someone do one for Farscape, please! https://liztellsfrank.com/2012/04/03/farscape-the-complete-skip-itwatch-it-guide/
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Even for a movie set in reconstruction with confederates I think the hateful eight went real hard on the n-word. And the sexual assault.... hooboy. Which granted I only watched the extended cut, but it definitely took me out of the movie.
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Ambitious Spider posted:Even for a movie set in reconstruction with confederates I think the hateful eight went real hard on the n-word. Quentin Tarantino is an edgelord who thinks dialogue peppered with racial slurs shows off how gritty his movies are. Sweevo has a new favorite as of 15:18 on Apr 21, 2021 |
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mind the walrus posted:That would be really loving nice. Luckily Hollywood has already made ‘Demolition Man’, so a template exists for cryogenically freezing Derek Chauvin in case future crime-free societies need someone experienced in killing minorities.
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Torquemada posted:Luckily Hollywood has already made ‘Demolition Man’, so a template exists for cryogenically freezing Derek Chauvin in case future crime-free societies need someone experienced in killing minorities.
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InediblePenguin posted:this is standard and he should not be treated like an exception, that lets the entire rest of the system off. Someone posted that this makes 8 convictions out of 16,000 police killings since 2005. So yeah, not an exception. I find that statistic handy (I should do some digging to see the source, though) when backing up the idea that this conviction is just a start.
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Maxwell Lord posted:"Due to injuries sustained in an accident during the production of The Farmer (1977), George Memmoli had to decline the bit part of Travis' disturbed passenger, who was ultimately played by Martin Scorsese."
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Yes, exactly. It's just so easy to find someone to replace an actor at the drop of a hat. Production schedule? Nah, that couldn't matter.
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When I watch Taxi Driver I’m always thinking about how it portrays its characters as cool and good
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Fatty Crabcakes posted:Oh I guess it was just bad luck that there weren't any other actors in New York because they were all I the film already. All of them. I love the immediate shift of the argument just to stay mad and keep arguing lol Henchman of Santa posted:When I watch Taxi Driver I’m always thinking about how it portrays its characters as cool and good
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Me while watching Taxi Driver: I'm gonna become the Taxi Driver.
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The problem with Scorsese movies (and most movies in general) is that he doesn’t make FUN movies. I watch movies to escape life. I don’t need to watch gangsters killing each other. I’m here to have some fun. TLDR: I’m not here for a long time I’m here for a fun time
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Srice posted:Me while watching Taxi Driver: I'm gonna become the Taxi Driver. That’s not exactly Bertrand Russell.
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ReidRansom posted:Nah Scorcese is way overrated, has made far more bad films than good, and is a bitter old rear end in a top hat jealous that people have moved on from his brand of poo poo. You should mean offense. Sorry he didn't like your superhero movies. muscles like this! posted:Scorcese has made good movies but he can be pretty inconsistent. Like the gimmick of The Irishman was a huge waste of time and money because it was just completely not believable and didn't actually add anything to the story. It is really funny they spent all that time and effort on the de-aging and Scorsese doesn't use a body double or closer shot for the scene where he beats the grocer (also the terrible CGI glass). Groovelord Neato has a new favorite as of 16:32 on Apr 21, 2021 |
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oldpainless posted:The problem with Scorsese movies (and most movies in general) is that he doesn’t make FUN movies. I watch movies to escape life. I don’t need to watch gangsters killing each other. I’m here to have some fun. Good news he has also made a bunch of movies that aren't about gangsters killing each other.
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El Fideo posted:Having that for Babylon 5 was a godsend. Someone do one for Farscape, please! Watch the pilot (hah) episode back-half of season one, season 2 premier, skip episodes 2 and 3 of season 2, and then never look back because its gold from there out. Mooseontheloose has a new favorite as of 16:46 on Apr 21, 2021 |
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I tried Farscape a few years ago and dropped it after a few episodes. I've been thinking about trying it again and a guide like this does seem helpful. I'm not quite sure about the priorities of the writer though. quote:we see Aeryn almost naked
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jjack229 posted:I tried Farscape a few years ago and dropped it after a few episodes. I've been thinking about trying it again and a guide like this does seem helpful. Keep in mind that the 1st season they weren't sure what to do with the show until late, so there is a lot of Star Trek-ian planet to planet visits in the start. That's why I say skip until the middle of the 1st season where they get their grove.
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i think we should remember that taxi driver was a low budget film, with several of the stars taking sizable paycuts for the project, that also operated under a very tight schedule by hollywood standards, since new york was in the middle of an odorous wombo-combo heatwave & garbage strike, coupled with the fact that most of it was shot on location, resulting in rather costly, very demanding shoots logistically and technically, and, under those circumstances, it's very plausible that actors dropping out would need affordable replacements like, that same day to keep pace underneath that, columbia pictures was already very concerned with how the film's content might stir up negative controversy and it got to the point where further production difficulties might've axed the movie entirely, those concerns started early and would continue to plague the production where scorsese, rather infamously, very begrudgingly gave into various studio demands re: certain scenes just to get it done and not be fully x-rated hard counter has a new favorite as of 16:43 on Apr 21, 2021 |
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jjack229 posted:I tried Farscape a few years ago and dropped it after a few episodes. I've been thinking about trying it again and a guide like this does seem helpful. I started back up on it late last year, and the first part of the first season (or the season itself?) definitely takes a while before it truly becomes Farscape. This was the first time I'd watched it as an adult. I'd watched it as a kid with my dad, that was one of his favorite series. I thought maybe it just wasn't my thing as an adult but nope, just needed to let it get into the groove. I think once Scorpius starts getting more prominence the show loses its "wacky aliens and a human having one off adventures in space" kind of feeling and more into, well, I guess still that but with a guiding background story as motivation. Those are certainly some priorities though Edit: Yeah what moose said basically
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hard counter posted:i think we should remember that taxi driver was a low budget film, with several of the stars taking sizable paycuts for the project, that also operated under a very tight schedule by hollywood standards, since new york was in the middle of an odorous wombo-combo heatwave & garbage strike, coupled with the fact that most of it was shot on location, resulting in rather costly, very demanding shoots logistically and technically, and, under those circumstances, it's very plausible that actors dropping out would need affordable replacements like, that same day to keep pace No you fool the only possible explanation is that Marty is a secret racist
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Bialar Crais is the original Zuko. Scorpius: second Zuko.
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hard counter posted:i think we should remember that taxi driver was a low budget film, with several of the stars taking sizable paycuts for the project, that also operated under a very tight schedule by hollywood standards, since new york was in the middle of an odorous wombo-combo heatwave & garbage strike, coupled with the fact that most of it was shot on location, resulting in rather costly, very demanding shoots logistically and technically, and, under those circumstances, it's very plausible that actors dropping out would need affordable replacements like, that same day to keep pace Goalposts shifting in 3… 2… 1…
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I’m waiting for John Hinkley Jr. to weigh in on this discussion.
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hawowanlawow posted:I love the immediate shift of the argument just to stay mad and keep arguing lol 
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Henchman of Santa posted:No you fool the only possible explanation is that Marty is a secret racist The funny thing is Scorsese actually toned down the racism since all the gangsters in the original script were black and he rewrote some of them to be Italian instead because he was worried about how it would look. Srice posted:Me while watching Taxi Driver: I'm gonna become the Taxi Driver. Obviously you shouldn't aspire to be Travis Bickle but the audience was definitely intended to be able to identify with him somewhat.
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When I was in bad place a decade ago I watched Taxi Driver about once week. I didn't aspire to become Travis Bickle, but the film's masculine alienation and frustration spoke directly to me. It is easy to miss that Bickle is just a fool and killing a couple neighborhood gangsters doesn't actually solve anything. Nevertheless I doubt that there isn't single man in the western world who wouldn't regognize what Bickle is going through.
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The movie would be boring if it was someone who nobody could identify with. It's like Falling Down - you're supposed to recognize that the society we live in creates monsters through its alienation and the negative effects of the patriarchy on men. While also knowing that the main character is a bad person who is doing bad things.
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That’s not really true there are plenty of movies where you aren’t suppose to be sympathetic to characters, it just depends on the movies. Some times black and white is fine for a film just like popcorn flicks are fine. Despite the internet’s desperate need to appear like they are above that
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the coen brothers are good at making movies with no clear good guy or bad guy or lesson, just a bunch of poo poo that happened
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hawowanlawow posted:the coen brothers are good at making movies with no clear good guy or bad guy or lesson, just a bunch of poo poo that happened “This is a true story. The events depicted in this film took place in Minnesota in 1987. At the request of the survivors, the names have been changed. Out of respect for the dead, the rest has been told exactly as it occurred.” Supposedly they put that fake disclaimer at the start of Fargo because the script was too outlandish to be believed as a movie plot, but seemed like a stupid enough clusterfuck to have actually occurred in real life.
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jjack229 posted:I tried Farscape a few years ago and dropped it after a few episodes. I've been thinking about trying it again and a guide like this does seem helpful. quote:“I Shrink Therefore I Am”: Skip it. We get more cheese, and tiny people, and Sikozu being kind of fab, and obsessed with Scorpy. I think the writer just hates fun.
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Torquemada posted:That’s not exactly Bertrand Russell. Does a taxi driver who drives only men who don't drive themselves drive himself? AceOfFlames has a new favorite as of 07:26 on Apr 22, 2021 |
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