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therattle
Jul 24, 2007
Soiled Meat

Soylent Yellow posted:

I suppose the government is desperate enough for a brexit win that waterboarding trade envoys is considered a valid negotiating tactic.

A supposedly friendly country that was going to be good practise for the harder talks to follow. “Let’s really piss them off with personal attacks!” The ducking stupidity of it.

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jaete
Jun 21, 2009


Nap Ghost

Endjinneer posted:

ghastly plughole regurgitation

hey that's the name of my grindcore band

it's like napalm death but about toilets

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Mebh posted:

loving hell this country...

Oh also news from the estate today... someone saw a man in a hoodie 'sussing' out peoples drives.

Then another person said a black paint mark appeared on their driveway!

Lots of screaming and flailing and attempting to remove the black paint mark that was 'clearly' a loving pirate mark for thievery.

i mean this does happen no?

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

NotJustANumber99 posted:

i mean this does happen no?

No? Maybe at some point in the last century people might conceivably have done this (although why you'd use paint or something instead of chalk or just scratching with a stone I don't know) but these days you've got a little magic rectangle in your pocket that you can use to transmit the exact geographical coordinates of that pie someone has left to cool on the windowsill to your outlaw compadres along with pictures of the pie and whether or not there's an old fella in one-piece underwear dozing on the porch with a shotgun.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Mebh posted:

loving hell this country...

Oh also news from the estate today... someone saw a man in a hoodie 'sussing' out peoples drives.

Then another person said a black paint mark appeared on their driveway!

Lots of screaming and flailing and attempting to remove the black paint mark that was 'clearly' a loving pirate mark for thievery.

And two weeks later when the rest of the oil drops out of their engine they'll claim it was Those People trying to steal it all.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006
love to very conspicuously hunt around in the dark for the black paint marks my thief partner left to tell me which houses were worth breaking into

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
they arent for your partner, theyre part of the thieves guild commitment

Dogatron
Jun 24, 2020

Mebh posted:

loving hell this country...

Oh also news from the estate today... someone saw a man in a hoodie 'sussing' out peoples drives.

Then another person said a black paint mark appeared on their driveway!

Lots of screaming and flailing and attempting to remove the black paint mark that was 'clearly' a loving pirate mark for thievery.

This rumour has been going for centuries, normally the gypsies getting the blame. Used to be chalk marks but it's spray paint today.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

goddamnedtwisto posted:

No? Maybe at some point in the last century people might conceivably have done this (although why you'd use paint or something instead of chalk or just scratching with a stone I don't know) but these days you've got a little magic rectangle in your pocket that you can use to transmit the exact geographical coordinates of that pie someone has left to cool on the windowsill to your outlaw compadres along with pictures of the pie and whether or not there's an old fella in one-piece underwear dozing on the porch with a shotgun.

so the news stories about it are like I dunno security alarm companies keen to push urban legends to earn a bit more business taken up by unquestioning media outlets?

Like I'm not arguing. Just a bit disappointing to reduce the romantic element of it all

kecske
Feb 28, 2011

it's round, like always


:itwaspoo:

Mebh
May 10, 2010


They never posted a picture, but instead said something about dogs being stolen and the entire comment thread devolved into head nodding about dog theft being on the rise (it is) and how we all need to be careful of the Romanians out to steal our dogs (we do not)

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
death penalty for dog theft. I'd vote for that party

Niric
Jul 23, 2008

NotJustANumber99 posted:

so the news stories about it are like I dunno security alarm companies keen to push urban legends to earn a bit more business taken up by unquestioning media outlets?

Like I'm not arguing. Just a bit disappointing to reduce the romantic element of it all

A quick skim of the top Google results for news stories suggests that's pretty much exactly what's happening, along with a healthy dose of clickbait and the literally centuries old practice of lazy journos repackaging urban legends for easy fear mongering stories.

E.g.

quote:

Experts from Yale, the home security specialists, told the Express what to look out for

quote:

Research from Churchill Home Insurance

quote:

As Jonathan Pass, from security company Safe, tells Sun Online

Etc etc

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

NotJustANumber99 posted:

death penalty for dog theft. I'd vote for that party
Check the rest of their manifesto first imo

All the ones that start out with "we will kill the dog thieves" inevitably degrade into "George Soros is teaching the school children sodomy" by the third line.

Perhaps it was smart of the Scottish Family Party to leap straight into that.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
i cant believe we've got to the point where we cant even trust insurance companies!

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Who is the face in this anyway

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
It's from this :australia:

https://mobile.twitter.com/tfswebb/status/900867290056466432

Umbra Dubium
Nov 23, 2007

The British Empire was built on cups of tea, and if you think I'm going into battle without one, you're sorely mistaken!



Sure, that elephant that got Westinghoused died, but it left a completely hairless corpse.

I saw the thing about thieves marking peoples houses doing the rounds on Facebook. I want to tell people to knock it off, but it does seem suspicious that someone would chalk the number of dogs on a property onto their wall.

Oh god, I'm becoming one of them!

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Liz Truss picking up negotiation techniques from Disco Elysium was not something I expected.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

NotJustANumber99 posted:

so the news stories about it are like I dunno security alarm companies keen to push urban legends to earn a bit more business taken up by unquestioning media outlets?

Like I'm not arguing. Just a bit disappointing to reduce the romantic element of it all

Eventually some poor minimum wage fucker doing ground surveys is gonna get burned in a wicker man for marking a buried cable in view of the wrong camera.

Like I say it's not impossible that at some point in the gaslit past a daytime recce of a house for nickable items would be followed up by a nighttime visit to nick them, and they wanted to mark where they saw the lady with the expensive brooch in those days before house numbers. *Maybe* I'll grant they still do a daytime shufti - after all it's easier to pick out which houses have poo poo doors in daylight - but all you need to do is whip out your phone and get the exact location saved for you, rather than carrying around an invertible spray can or whatever.

Endjinneer
Aug 17, 2005
Fallen Rib
It's true. I read it in a book. In Enid Blyton's Five go to Fash Island an ...uh... member of the traveller community leaves coded markings on the gatepost of a house to record disparaging comments about the generosity of the inhabitants.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Eventually some poor minimum wage fucker doing ground surveys is gonna get burned in a wicker man for marking a buried cable in view of the wrong camera.

Are you trying to pick a fight with me? i know you havent been able to loudly share your views in your local pubs (the history of which I'm sure you could regale us with until the heat death of the universe) but relax.

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

OwlFancier posted:

I feel like "electrocute things until something interesting happens" is not a particularly new or novel technology and has in fact been what people did with electricity from the moment they discovered it.
I believe there’s an electric gizmo you can get that goes up your butt and the butt of a close friend so that when you do a sex electricity comes out, that sounds like good fun

Endjinneer
Aug 17, 2005
Fallen Rib
Patrins. They were called Patrins.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Endjinneer posted:

Patrins. They were called Patrins.

lol pick yourself an av

willie_dee
Jun 21, 2010
I obtain sexual gratification from observing people being inflicted with violent head injuries
People who don’t commit crime are utterly clueless about criminals and how they commit crime, it’s why they think harsher punishments are needed, as if criminals think they will get caught. Houses being marked by thieves has never been a real thing.

Mebh
May 10, 2010


I just assume everyone is going loving mad with lockdown. Its interspersed with people borrowing ladders and giving away old ipads asking about good plumbers so the neighbourhood is nice, it's just such a weird blind spot where everyone foams at the mouth about benefits, thieves and youths who are probably both!

Like, you're white, live in a posh estate, have an Audi and a BMW you have two blonde children and a conservatory, the gently caress are you really afraid of? It's not like if the youths catch you after dark they'll throw you off of Necromunda to the slums below.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

I have to say, I prefer Count Binface's 21 pledges to Keith's 10 pledges:

https://www.countbinface.com/london-2021-manifesto

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

This avatar made possible by a gift from the Religionthread Posters Relief Fund

Mebh posted:

Like, you're white, live in a posh estate, have an Audi and a BMW you have two blonde children and a conservatory, the gently caress are you really afraid of? It's not like if the youths catch you after dark they'll throw you off of Necromunda to the slums below.

It's fear of losing it. Its the fear that maybe you don't deserve all these nice things or maybe it's all just random and it could all go away. So you settle in and try to make everyones life worse.

Mebh
May 10, 2010


Josef bugman posted:

It's fear of losing it. Its the fear that maybe you don't deserve all these nice things or maybe it's all just random and it could all go away. So you settle in and try to make everyones life worse.

Yeah but that's the maddening thing. They'll never just randomly lose it. Not in any way that they fear. Obviously nasty poo poo happens but illness and natural disasters are not exactly what they're posting on Facebook about.

It's just so mind numbingly sad and petty.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Endjinneer posted:

When you dump a load of water down the pipework so that it's running full bore the water has to push air in the pipe out of the way. Buildings usually have a vent pipe to allow this build up of air pressure to go somewhere unproblematic. If the vent pipe is blocked the air gets pushed up the plugholes instead, sometimes taking the water in the U bend up with it. That's what you're seeing. It's not a terminal problem but something worth bearing in mind.
Sometimes, you get a slight drop in pressure rather than a raise and this can suck the water out of the U bend which allows the stinky sewer gas to creep through.

In bigger blocks of apartments, venting the pipework gets really complicated because you have to deal with branching networks and multiple flushing toilet scenarios in a way that prevents ghastly plughole regurgitation.

I wonder how I could trace where the vent pipe for the bath/sink water comes out?
There are quite a few sticking out on the roof, but we all have extractor fans in our kitchens and bathrooms which I thought I could find mine for those by somehow squishing coloured smoke up the vent and positioning someone else on the roof to see it when it comes out. But I don't know how I could do that for the plumbing vent.

Reminiscence: In my flat in Cairo I could basically see how the pipework was laid out because they have these handy drain holes in the floors of kitchens and bathrooms so you clean by chucking a bucket of water on the floor and squeegeeing the dirty water down the holes.

Soylent Yellow posted:

I happen to work for a kitchen and bathroom company. Unfortunately, I probably wouldn't be able to hook you up with decent contractors unless you live in the deepest, darkest, sheep-shaggiest corners of North Wales. I'd definitely advise finding a decent contractor for something like that, though. There are plenty of cowboys about, and a slow leak onto joists is something that will take a while to become apparent, but will really spoil your day once it does.

I've not ever had to sell a Shattaf to anyone. I did see one that was previously fitted on a site earlier this month, and it seems pretty easy to fit one to any open back toilet simply by tapping it into the cistern feed.

South Wales, sadly. I have to say that the contractors I've had dealings with here in this town are not great if they even bother to turn up. I shan't bore you with the trauma caused by the more and more incredible adventures of the roofer we booked to fix the loose slates on the roof of our block as to why he hadn't turned up that day (and 5 more days - we've a different contractor coming next week inshallah).

I looked into those (a 'tushy bidet') but have almost no clearance (less than 2cm) between the cistern and the boxed in pipework. I'm going to have all that boxing-in removed which the cowboys siliconed in everywhere so I can see what the heck is going on but shudder at the thought of the mess that will ensue in my tiny flat (and the bathroom is between the front door and the living & bedrooms and I would have to take the bathroom door off for anything to go on in there because it fully blocks the very narrow hall when open.

I'd like to have one of those bogs with a shattaf fitted into the back and you twiddle a handle on the side of the bog to adjust the flow (and yes, you have to do it carefully else you do end up with a jet of water shooting out all over.)
Ed: just looked online and they seem to have loads more 'douche kits' (where the hose hangs on the wall alongside the bog) available than when I looked even just a year or so ago. I'd happily go with one of those instead. I did have one rigged up in my last flat very long hose and relevant valves, sprayers etc, leading from the bath taps but it's not possible in this flat.


goddamnedtwisto posted:

Happy Birthday for Sunday Jaeluni, and as always thank you for making me feel a little bit younger.

This is actually the first birthday this year where I've been able to do this in advance rather than in a panic when I wake up to Whatsapp messages in various group chats wishing someone a happy birthday - my friends and family could probably get quite a good scam going of just doing this once a month, each, and getting guilty Amazon vouchers sheepishly sent to them around lunchtime.

Thanks Twisto. I rely on FB to warn me of birthdays and if I'm planning to be offline for a few days, I check the birthdays page. Mind you it's funny seeing loads of happy birthdays to some friends who have put fake birthdays on there and also very sad to see happy birthday hope you have a great day messages on the pages of deceased friends and relatives where the posters have obviously not realized that they are deceased (my sister in law 10 years this month - none of us can get on her page to memorialize it).

Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 01:21 on Apr 22, 2021

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

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Mebh posted:

It's just so mind numbingly sad and petty.

Yarp.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Mebh posted:

I just assume everyone is going loving mad with lockdown. Its interspersed with people borrowing ladders and giving away old ipads asking about good plumbers so the neighbourhood is nice, it's just such a weird blind spot where everyone foams at the mouth about benefits, thieves and youths who are probably both!

Like, you're white, live in a posh estate, have an Audi and a BMW you have two blonde children and a conservatory, the gently caress are you really afraid of? It's not like if the youths catch you after dark they'll throw you off of Necromunda to the slums below.

The more people get like that the more insular and rabid they get. Just absolutely convinced that everyone they don't know is out to kill them and take everything they have.

I don't really know why exactly other than perhaps they recognize on some level that people would be entirely justified in doing it. Or perhaps it is what they would do given the chance. Or perhaps having material things makes you believe that material things are the only thing that you can trust so you build walls and install cameras and try to control everything you can within your property line, rather than accepting that your viability as a human being and especially the maintenence of your lifestyle is dependent on the continued good functioning of society.

Wrath of Mordark
Jul 25, 2006

Foster liked his brand new wand!
Fun Shoe

I always thought it came from some Sunday Sport style article about some woman who thought she was pregnant but.....

I didn't just imagine that one, did I?

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Bobby Deluxe posted:

I have to say, I prefer Count Binface's 21 pledges to Keith's 10 pledges:

https://www.countbinface.com/london-2021-manifesto



I'd move to London if they bring back Ceefax TBH

Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!






I wonder whether the government actually cares about its ineptitude in dealing with foreigners. Here in China the government is 100% clear that it only cares about its domestic audience and couldn’t give a rat’s arse what anyone else thinks. Which is why you get a lot of failsons in nice diplomatic jobs and all the competent people get sent off to the border regions in their early career to manage hostile populations.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

Spangly A posted:

iontophoresis isn't electrocution, it's (creating) a route of administration. Electrolytes in your sweat are repelled, and the water holding the current is pushed into your pits, diluting the sweat.

You can use it to locally administer anticholinergic drugs in the microgram range but I have no idea if anyone actually does that. But i didn't realise iontophoresis was used for anything other than poking mouse neurons until half an hour ago

Also, fellow hairy people, just buy veet. It is by far the lowest effort for the best result, even if you get random minor burns twice a year

Speaking of anticholinergics if plain water doesn't work well enough with the iontophoresis you can get glycopyrronium solution to help with all your sweat busting needs as well.

Niric
Jul 23, 2008

willie_dee posted:

People who don’t commit crime are utterly clueless about criminals and how they commit crime, it’s why they think harsher punishments are needed, as if criminals think they will get caught. Houses being marked by thieves has never been a real thing.

I think it's also that people love the idea that "the criminal underworld" is essentially a secret society with complex but universally shared values, codes and rituals lurking just beyond ordinary life. I'm sure there's many examples, but Treasure Island and The Godfather are full of this kind of stuff (the black spot, "it's a sicilian message"), and something like John Wick is almost entirely built on it

Niric fucked around with this message at 08:03 on Apr 22, 2021

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

Mebh posted:

It's just so mind numbingly sad and petty.
This could be the strapline for the entire UK

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Niric posted:

I think it's also that people love the idea that "the criminal underworld" is essentially a secret society with complex but universally shared values, codes and rituals lurking just beyond ordinary life. I'm sure there's many examples, but Treasure Island and The Godfather are full of this kind of stuff (the black spot, "it's a sicilian message"), and something like John Wick is almost entirely built on it

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