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Leperflesh posted:I think being cartoonishly evil, in a cartoonish setting, can be a lot of fun, for a little while. Yeah, one of the things I noticed with all the people I played World of Darkness games with is that with a couple exceptions we all took it in cartoonish directions because playing it straight was disturbing and not fun.
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In my experience, the ideal is an evil party that falls somewhere between the Adams Family and Always Sunny. Characters are reprehensible and self-serving, but keeping the tone light reinforces that it's a pretend game about imaginary characters without consequences.
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Liquid Communism posted:Mine were running slow, but got here over the weekend! What I get for living in the middle of nowhere. Whew, nothing quite like seeing the final product safely in someone else's hands. Tulip posted:Owns It absolutely does!
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Whybird posted:Evil antagonists tend, unless the story derails, to get their comeuppance. The story is set up to implicitly criticise the stuff they do.
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Leperflesh posted:I think being cartoonishly evil, in a cartoonish setting, can be a lot of fun, for a little while. I tend to steer clear of cartoonish evil. Mostly because I feel like comedy games tend to be short running, and I have a preference for long running games. I prefer to avoid people with zero redeeming qualities, just because I find it unrealistic and I get the most enjoyment in RPGs from putting myself in the heads of other people that could actually exist. But sure, I play bad people fairly regularly and have no issue with it. I'll happily play characters with no qualms about murdering people to get what they want, or worse. I don't think there's anything inherently unhealthy about playing a bad person. It's a game, people can do whatever hosed up poo poo they want and it doesn't bother me any. But I will say the only time I get uncomfortable with other people playing bad people is when I start getting the sense that they aren't self-aware about what they're doing.
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hey all, for playing online multiplayer social games (ie Survivor) i was thinking a really cool thing would be having chatroom channels for players, but with some important restrictions turned on. Namely, users can only be in one room/channel at a time, and they can't leave/join spam. This would simulate groups of people actually gathering in physical spaces better than just giving unlimited group chatting, ie like irl you can only be in one place at a time, and you would have to leave one group of people to go talk to another. People would know you left a group and must be somewhere else, and so on. Is there any chat service that can function this way? everything I can think of for like Discord or IRC solutions seem like they would require server admin oversight inviting/approving joins but that seems unrealistic to manage in a timely manner if you want to leave it open for players for like days at a time. any ideas?
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Fast Luck posted:hey all, for playing online multiplayer social games (ie Survivor) i was thinking a really cool thing would be having chatroom channels for players, but with some important restrictions turned on. Namely, users can only be in one room/channel at a time, and they can't leave/join spam. This would simulate groups of people actually gathering in physical spaces better than just giving unlimited group chatting, ie like irl you can only be in one place at a time, and you would have to leave one group of people to go talk to another. People would know you left a group and must be somewhere else, and so on. It would depend on the number of players but I'm pretty confident that Discord bots can be set up to enable what you're thinking. I know at least for blaseball all the team rooms are locked and a bot automatically locks them when you use emote-reacts on specified posts. The main thing would I think be making it exclusionary e.g. "You can't join a new chat until you leave the old one!" which seems doable to me but I haven't looked at it specifically and wouldn't be the best person anyway. Helical Nightmares posted:Big news! Has somebody made a google sheet setup like the one people use for BITD? If not I've got a sleepy unfocused afternoon/evening ahead of me and that would be the sort of low-impact task I'd spend it on.
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Wicked Ones now has a Free edition!
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Fast Luck posted:hey all, for playing online multiplayer social games (ie Survivor) i was thinking a really cool thing would be having chatroom channels for players, but with some important restrictions turned on. Namely, users can only be in one room/channel at a time, and they can't leave/join spam. This would simulate groups of people actually gathering in physical spaces better than just giving unlimited group chatting, ie like irl you can only be in one place at a time, and you would have to leave one group of people to go talk to another. People would know you left a group and must be somewhere else, and so on. Discord can definitely do this. Make a bunch of roles corresponding to the different rooms, restricted so they can only chat in those rooms. Then use a bot that automatically assigns people to one of those roles and removes the others when they click a reaction.
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Awesome, I haven't done anything with bots before so I'll have to experiment a bit to learn how that stuff works, but good to know it's possible. Thanks for the answers. Can you make it so the bot updates permissions every 30 minutes or something (thus making joining a room a commitment)? Can the users communicate to the bots by whispers so everyone won't know where they're going? Those are my last questions and then I'll try to dive in and figure it out myself if i decide to work on this later  edit: hmm could create a private channel for each user with a bot in it to read their commands, and put in a 30 minute cooldown/flood protection on those channels perhaps... that might just do it Fast Luck fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Apr 21, 2021 |
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Tulip posted:Has somebody made a google sheet setup like the one people use for BITD? If not I've got a sleepy unfocused afternoon/evening ahead of me and that would be the sort of low-impact task I'd spend it on. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11ZBtRtzYuRp2-wEx7ynWkiiLwljkELi0d89ZC85hW9s/edit?usp=drivesdk This is linked when you buy the game, but I just grabbed the link. I don't know how slick it is.
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CitizenKeen posted:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11ZBtRtzYuRp2-wEx7ynWkiiLwljkELi0d89ZC85hW9s/edit?usp=drivesdk Slicker than what I would make! Thanks. e: What you linked didn't have anything class specific so I spent a few minutes doing data entry, hope this helps people https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1URGliJISfVzk1gNdAEF9FrTtrzXbeKdf6ytrrx6GfDM/edit?usp=sharing Tulip fucked around with this message at 23:41 on Apr 21, 2021 |
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So a friend of mine is wondering about how to mechanically represent a disability in Dungeons and Dragons 5e without being offensive. Here's the setup:quote:halfling is a part of, or seeking to be a part of, a clan/order who are against the undead Despite the silly premise they don't want it to be demeaning to anyone and are wondering what the best way to mechanically express it would be, and if their character should have a wheelchair at the ready as well, etc. Any input you have is welcome! Lurdiak fucked around with this message at 02:52 on Apr 22, 2021 |
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Lurdiak posted:So a friend of mine is wondering about how to mechanically represent a disability in Dungeons and Dragons 5e without being offensive. Here's the setup: My first thought here, ignoring the disability representation, is that it feels weird that the character has a body slave -- does the player functionally have two PCs, or is the goliath just there as a prop? I'd be inclined to give the halfling some kind of non-sapient mobility aid, personally. (Maybe they saved the life of a goliath artificer who set them up with a cool magic wheelchair/prosthesis and can serve as a contact for the party?)
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I think the best way to handle something like that is always just going to be narrative stuff abd not mechanics. That also means as GM not putting them in positions where you say "erm no I've decided based on your fluff younauto fail or have worse rolls"
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If you do absolutely need mechanics I know that a few people who wanted more direct representation for themselves in the game have created various wheelchairs you could take a look at. Beyond that I can't really comment, as I have no personal experience in this area.
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Antivehicular posted:My first thought here, ignoring the disability representation, is that it feels weird that the character has a body slave -- does the player functionally have two PCs, or is the goliath just there as a prop? I'd be inclined to give the halfling some kind of non-sapient mobility aid, personally. (Maybe they saved the life of a goliath artificer who set them up with a cool magic wheelchair/prosthesis and can serve as a contact for the party?) The Goliath is played by someone else, sorry for not specifying.
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I think a lot of this depends on what the player wants to do. The Master Blaster set-up you describe presents the wrinkle that the halfling is implicitly committed to being in the same space, or at the least adjacent to, the goliath. I would agree that roleplaying it is probably the best solution. Coolness Averted posted:I think the best way to handle something like that is always just going to be narrative stuff abd not mechanics. That also means as GM not putting them in positions where you say "erm no I've decided based on your fluff younauto fail or have worse rolls"
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Seems to me the simplest solution would be just chopping off the rotted leg and going with a pegleg
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To start with, here are the rules for mounted combat. Treating the Goliath as an independent mount seems to be the least-effort method to represent them working as a unit. This kind of thing actually tends to mess with the rules quite a bit, ruling it like this would have the benefit of being established precedent in the game rules rather than something you make up. Having your mount be another PC is a bit dicey, but... give it a go and see if it works for you as a group or if it causes any unexpected issues. It would fit with these rules to make the major effect of the halfling's disability "you can only spend half your speed". This way they could still move around independently, and they could still dis- and remount. Just not both at the same time. This is probably also not too debilitating, nor would I think it paints the character as less of a person. It also strikes me that a thematically appropriate complication for a hunter of undead who has to deal with a literally dead limb is that it could fall under necromantic control. What any given necromancer could do controlling an enemy's leg, as opposed to an arm for which there is plenty of precedent in stories like Evil Dead and so on, is up to their own creativity (stopping their movement and kicking the goliath both come readily to mind).
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Double post but it just occurred to me, if anything does paint the halfling as less of a person, it would be the player's (I assume) own idea of being dependent on another person for getting around.
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Coolness Averted posted:I think the best way to handle something like that is always just going to be narrative stuff abd not mechanics. That also means as GM not putting them in positions where you say "erm no I've decided based on your fluff younauto fail or have worse rolls" This is where I would lean towards too. For a video game example, Moving Out is a game about being furniture movers. It lets you make a character who is in a wheelchair, but it has no effect on the gameplay; it's just aesthetic. Of course, this game is not making a narrative statement about ability, it is just trying to be inclusive. I think of it by example: A character has to run up to the third floor of a building to help with something, and there is some conceit that is making it a ticking-clock situation. Narratively, it could create tension if the person who had to do this was the less able-bodied character. (I think there was a scene in Gattaca like that with Jude Law? It's been a while since I saw it.) This would be in similar ways as if that player was under the effects of alcohol or poison and having trouble climbing stairs at the moment, or was deathly afraid of heights, or was simply irresponsible and gets distracted. The only difference is the potential sensitivity issue, which you each are doing what you can to be aware of. The other practical thing to keep in mind is that this isn't a game like GURPS or V:tM where you're getting 'points' back for taking certain disadvantages, so repeatedly mechanically hindering them without benefit might get old. Will there be many combats? How will this character fight, if so? If you really want it to be mechanical, make sure this won't lead to excluding the player from the activities. I would lean towards it simply being non-mechanical until it is narratively engaging in a singular moment, rather than in perpetual minutiae. Of course, I am not a member of the group being represented here, and I am going to assume that no one in your group is either, based on how you couched this. What I say matters so much less than what someone with lived experience might offer.
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Well we ended out Monster of the Week game last night. The players took out Lich McConnell and destabilized multiple world governments as a result. Instead of stabbing him to death though they summoned the demon they fought 6 months ago and had him go apeshit in the phylactery storage
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drrockso20 posted:Seems to me the simplest solution would be just chopping off the rotted leg and going with a pegleg You could make it cooler by making the pegleg a sword or some kind of weapon too so the halfling guy's fightstyle now involves kicking people with it
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There pegleg should be an Immovable Rod that they’ve integrated into a cool martial art
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It seems to come down to: Do you, as a player, want to create a hook for your character to experience adversity specifically because of their disability? Then you probably need some kind of mechanic that sets them apart from other characters, that will allow the DM to directly target it, and that may not properly represent the way your character's disability would work or impact them in the real world and may in fact be overly reductive. You may also find that you're representing disability as something that primarily creates disadvantages; it's your call whether that is more of an issue than D&D's baked in systems already creating disadvantages for characters who are extraordinarily weak, clumsy or stupid, or for that matter, for entire sentient species designated as adversaries. What you get out of it includes opportunities for narrative tension that stem from a player choice, an element unique to your character, the feeling of making the gameworld your own and representing disability in your game. My Lovely Horse fucked around with this message at 15:05 on Apr 22, 2021 |
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Len posted:Well we ended out Monster of the Week game last night. The players took out Lich McConnell and destabilized multiple world governments as a result. lmao nice
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whydirt posted:There pegleg should be an Immovable Rod that they’ve integrated into a cool martial art Crossbow or miniature cannon (which would require some training to use)
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Len posted:Well we ended out Monster of the Week game last night. The players took out Lich McConnell and destabilized multiple world governments as a result. Nice, glad things got a good wrap up. Do you think you're gonna pause it and recharge before trying another season later or go out on a high note? Since you mentioned feeling a bit burned out and hard pressed for ideas earlier.
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Coolness Averted posted:Nice, glad things got a good wrap up. Do you think you're gonna pause it and recharge before trying another season later or go out on a high note? Since you mentioned feeling a bit burned out and hard pressed for ideas earlier. We're going to do at least a one shot of Wanderhome next and then I plan to try Fellowship with The Horizon framework. We all want to go back to this once we've recharged some. Currently I'm thinking a time skip and gift everyone some levels when we go back
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Did not see a thread for it but Hard Wired Island dropped today: https://ettin.itch.io/hard-wired-island
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Kemper Boyd posted:Did not see a thread for it but Hard Wired Island dropped today: https://ettin.itch.io/hard-wired-island That looks cool but as soon as I saw this I laughed and had to post: quote:This 397-page PDF includes:
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theironjef posted:Not a dig, just a point of curiosity, is the player new to RPGs?
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are there any game deals Twitter accounts like wario64 but for traditional games I love deals
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John Romero posted:are there any game deals Twitter accounts like wario64 but for traditional games You mean the TG Deals and Steals thread thread here? https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3534648
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Tulip posted:That looks cool but as soon as I saw this I laughed and had to post: There's 40 pages of core rules, 40 pages of player options, 15 pages of GM advice, 65 pages of pregens and scenario seeds, and everything else in the book is setting information.
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Helical Nightmares posted:You mean the TG Deals and Steals thread thread here? https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3534648 I love it but it seems to not be updated too frequently, and me, a known shithead, would not check it as often as one that would just be on my timeline
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Lemon-Lime posted:There's 40 pages of core rules, 40 pages of player options, 15 pages of GM advice, 65 pages of pregens and scenario seeds, and everything else in the book is setting information. Yeah sometimes a system can be simple yet the book is huge because they include a lot of stuff, the various Microlite compilations are often enormous not because the game is particularly complicated(indeed it comes about as close as possible to the most simple you can take the D&D chassis while still remaining recognizable as being D&D derived) but because it's so simple it's easy to make a ton of content and variant rules for it
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John Romero posted:I love it but it seems to not be updated too frequently, and me, a known shithead, would not check it as often as one that would just be on my timeline 
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