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blatman
May 10, 2009

14 inc dont mez


tokin opposition posted:

Me, smoking weed in my spacer habitat, gravity, going outside, wearing pants, or not being a poly pansexual spacechild with my beltalowdas: hope the martians are ok, gravity wells are so 2021

reroute main and auxiliary power to ur monitor

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Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

30.5 Days posted:

Survival cannibalism is a custom of the sea, and what is space but an ocean in the sky?

Even 150 years ago people were obsessed with this poo poo.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_v_Dudley_and_Stephens

Although in this famous case the surviving crew happened to eat the 17 year-old cabin boy, who was "in a coma" and "going to die anyway."

gently caress it I'll just paste the Wikipedia entry here:

The yacht Mignonette was a 19.43 net t., 52-foot (16 m) cruiser built in 1867.[4] It was an inshore boat, not made for long voyages.[5] Australian lawyer Jack Want bought it in 1883 for leisure.[4] The yacht could at decent cost be transported to Australia by sailing, it was small and a 15,000-mile (24,000-km) voyage daunted attempts that year to find a suitable crew. It was sailed to Sydney from Southampton on 19 May 1884 with a crew of: Tom Dudley[a],[6] the captain; Edwin Stephens [b];[7] Edmund Brooks (1846–1919);[8] and Richard Parker, the cabin boy. Parker was 17 years old, orphaned and an inexperienced seaman.[9]

On July 5, the yacht was running before a gale, around 1,600 miles (2,600 km) northwest of the Cape of Good Hope. The vessel was not struggling and Dudley gave the order to heave to so that the crew could enjoy a good night's sleep. As the manoeuvre was completed, and Parker was sent below to prepare tea, a wave struck and washed away the lee bulwark.

Dudley instantly realized that the yacht was doomed and ordered the single 13-foot (4 m) lifeboat to be lowered. The lifeboat was of flimsy construction, with boards only 0.25 inches (6 mm) thick and was holed in the haste to get it away. Mignonette sank within five minutes of being struck and the crew abandoned ship for the lifeboat, managing only to salvage vital navigational instruments along with two tins of turnips and no fresh water.[10] Theories abound of the structural inadequacies of the yacht that could not withstand the onslaught of a gale.[11]

Dudley managed to improvise a sea anchor to keep the lifeboat headed into the waves and maintain her stability. Over the first night, the crew had to fight off a shark with their oars. They were around 700 miles (1,100 km) from the nearest land, Saint Helena or Tristan da Cunha.[11] Dudley kept the first tin of turnips until 7 July when its five pieces were shared among the men to last two days. On or around 9 July, Brooks spotted a turtle which Stephens dragged on board. The crew were resolutely avoiding drinking seawater as it was then universally held to be fatal and, though they devoured the turtle, they forwent drinking its blood when it became contaminated with seawater. The turtle yielded about three pounds (1.4 kg) of meat each, though the crew ate even the bones, and, along with the second tin of turnips lasted until 15 or 17 July. The crew consistently failed to catch any rainwater and by 13 July, with no other source of fluid, they began to drink their own urine. It was probably on 20 July that Parker became ill through drinking seawater. Stephens was also unwell, possibly having experimented with seawater.[12]

Drawing lots to choose a sacrificial victim who would die to feed the others was possibly first discussed on 16 or 17 July, and debate seems to have intensified on 21 July but without resolution. On 23 or 24 July, with Parker probably in a coma, Dudley told the others that it was better that one of them die so that the others survive and that they should draw lots. Brooks refused. That night, Dudley again raised the matter with Stephens pointing out that Parker was probably dying and that he and Stephens had wives and families. They agreed to leave the matter until the morning.

The following day, with no prospect of rescue in sight, Dudley and Stephens silently signalled to each other that Parker would be killed. Killing Parker before his natural death would mean blood to drink. Brooks, who had not been party to the earlier discussion, claimed to have signalled neither assent nor protest. Dudley always insisted that Brooks had assented. Dudley said a prayer and, with Stephens standing by to hold the youth's legs if he struggled, pushed his penknife into Parker's jugular vein, killing him.[13]

In some of the varying and confused later accounts of the killing, Parker murmured, "What me?" as he was slain.[14] The three fed on Parker's body, with Dudley and Brooks consuming the most and Stephens very little. The crew even finally managed to catch some rainwater. Dudley later described the scene, "I can assure you I shall never forget the sight of my two unfortunate companions over that ghastly meal. We all was like mad wolfs who should get the most, and for men—fathers of children—to commit such a deed, we could not have our right reason."[15] The crew sighted a sail on 29 July.[16]

Dudley, Stephens and Brooks were picked up by the German sailing barque Montezuma which returned the men to Falmouth, Cornwall on Saturday 6 September en route to its destination in Hamburg.[17] On arrival in Falmouth, the survivors attended the customs house and Dudley and Stephens entered statutory statements under the Merchant Shipping Acts, required in the event of a shipping loss. All three were candid, Dudley and Stephens believing themselves to be protected by a custom of the sea.

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

This one is a bit darker:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Brown_(ship)

MLSM
Apr 3, 2021

by Azathoth

uber_stoat posted:

it's me, the smart science man. i want to go be king of a frozen barren desert hellscape that will kill me in every kind of way it is possible to die if i am even slightly unlucky.

Frozen barren desert hellscape is looking increasingly good next to our corporate cyberpunk hellscape though?

Granted we haven’t reached the cannibalism stage yet

VictualSquid
Feb 29, 2012

Gently enveloping the target with indiscriminate love.
I remember hearing a story about emergency canibalism in a ship's lifeboats. Where "coincidentally" all the non-white people were eaten first. Across several lifeboats that were not in communication with each other.

SSJ_naruto_2003
Oct 12, 2012



Capsize that motherfucker

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
this is one of the first "products as a subscription for life" things i've come across that grabbed significant attention from me when i discovered it

my father has to take a poo poo load of pills since his medical events (heart attack/stroke) and this dispenser seems really cool/comprehensive way to make sure he's staying on track and doesn't have to bother with anything, so i was interested in BUYING one, but that's NOT what they're selling, they're selling a pill sorting "lifestyle service" for $29.99 a month (machine + app + whatever) until you're DEAD

now i expected to pay like $200ish for this, and maybe foist it off onto medicare, but yeah, gently caress this dog poo poo, gently caress this trend of Literally Everything being a subscription you pay for forever and especially gently caress that tied to a physical product that you don't own

https://herohealth.com/our-product

i imagine if you stop paying the monthly fee they try to recoup the machine, disable it via the internet, etc. if my father had had this machine since his health events started, we'd have paid nearly $2000 by now for "pill sorting service" and we're all going to be expected to fold more and more of our daily lives into these types of subscription schemes that are able to be yanked when we can't pay

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

oddly I was just making fun of a device that fits the exact criteria you’re looking for

Smart Automated Medication Dispenser - Pria™ by BLACK+DECKER™ - Connected Home Care Companion - Simplify Your Loved One's Home Healthcare https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07JH58X9C/

and that face is cyberpunk dystopia as gently caress!



edit: wait no that has a subscription too!!! even after you pay the $300

RoeCocoa
Oct 23, 2010

VictualSquid posted:

I remember hearing a story about emergency canibalism in a ship's lifeboats. Where "coincidentally" all the non-white people were eaten first. Across several lifeboats that were not in communication with each other.

The Essex!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS299VkXZxI

Is Moby Dick cyberpunk?

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

hobbesmaster posted:

oddly I was just making fun of a device that fits the exact criteria you’re looking for

Smart Automated Medication Dispenser - Pria™ by BLACK+DECKER™ - Connected Home Care Companion - Simplify Your Loved One's Home Healthcare https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07JH58X9C/

and that face is cyberpunk dystopia as gently caress!



edit: wait no that has a subscription too!!! even after you pay the $300

what a racket. :lmao:

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
"DISPENSING PILLS!"
*ROBOTIC GRUNTING*

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?
oh so it’s a masturbation aid as well

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Kitfox88 posted:

oh so it’s a masturbation aid as well

I mean literally everything is to somebody

Homocow
Apr 24, 2007

Extremely bad poster!
DO NOT QUOTE!


Pillbug

hobbesmaster posted:

oddly I was just making fun of a device that fits the exact criteria you’re looking for

Smart Automated Medication Dispenser - Pria™ by BLACK+DECKER™ - Connected Home Care Companion - Simplify Your Loved One's Home Healthcare https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07JH58X9C/

and that face is cyberpunk dystopia as gently caress!



edit: wait no that has a subscription too!!! even after you pay the $300
love it when they add a level of complexity to a preexisting idea (eg: an ordinary pill box) and then brand it is "simpler"

the technology is more complicated, requiring a subscription makes it more complicated, requiring a smartphone makes it more complicated

this could probably get some elderly people killed

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
a pillbox but we hold your pills hostage if you don't pay the pill ransom. normal healthy country.

Desert Bus
May 9, 2004

Take 1 tablet by mouth daily.
My pharmacy will literally sort and pre-package my pills into the daily doses wtf

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
https://www.wired.com/story/they-hacked-mcdonalds-ice-cream-makers-started-cold-war/?utm_source=pocket-newtab



batshit lunacy in this article lmao

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
can you imagine how much wasted resources and man hours we could reclaim by eliminating corporate "secrets" and trademarks and blackboxing production like this

Private Cumshoe
Feb 15, 2019

AAAAAAAGAGHAAHGGAH

Homocow posted:

love it when they add a level of complexity to a preexisting idea (eg: an ordinary pill box) and then brand it is "simpler"

the technology is more complicated, requiring a subscription makes it more complicated, requiring a smartphone makes it more complicated

this could probably get some elderly people killed

gently caress simplicity and gently caress simplicity branding

Simply Pills

NOTHING IS EVER THAT SIMPLE FUCKERS DO YOU THINK I'M STUPID??

Maybe during the revolution billionaires will have to pay for a subscription service to not have the blade fall on their neck but if they don't redistribute their wealth fast enough, whoopsie I guess it falls should have had more Personal Responsibility I guess

Simply Guillotines

take_it_slow
Jul 7, 2011

quote:

But Huang also remembers pointing out to O’Sullivan that the Taylor machine he was using to build their Frobot was, like a lot of food industry appliances, ancient technology that hadn’t fundamentally changed in 50 years. “It [an ice cream machine] hasn’t benefited from Moore’s law, hasn’t even benefited from Web 2.0,” Huang recalls telling them. “It's a product everyone eats, and the machine that makes it is just in the dark ages."
What do you mean my ice-cream machine can't join your botnet?!? :mad:

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

non fungible treats

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

so this is actually kind of a ridiculous rabbit hole. i was looking for one of the simple plastic weekly pill organizers and yup amazon has those for $2.50


ok but that looks a little flimsy, lets jump up to $6


there we go! now what if you needed day and night? $10


four times a day? only a dollar more!


eh thats pretty ugly can we get that in wackier colors


oh, is that not manly enough for you? ok


oh but what if I want to be able to lose components


wait thats dumb


fine but what if I want to portion out an entire month's worth of pills into little plastic cups. we're up to $19 now!


ok fine I get it you can make little plastic containers and it'll always be under $20. surely you can tape a lovely alarm clock on there to remind you right. $29


not that lovely you say? better step up to $70!


but wait a second, we have these electronics but they're not actually dispensers are they? for only $10 more we can get an actual automatic dispenser that works exactly the way you'd think it should work, you load up 28 positions worth of pills, program a simple little timer and however many times you need it a day it dials the position and an alarm clock goes off.


wow, that actually looks useful! but... thats not going to get us services revenue, surely we can attach a lovely smart phone app to it and get some more money. $150? well, that'll only get you one of those simple plastic ones with a couple little lights. $10 a month I think? ( https://www.amazon.com/Organizer-Alarms-Whenever-Automatically-Convenient/dp/B089761GD3/ )


our friendly robot is up at $300 and we're finally back to the capabilities of the $80 one without an app. we still don't have any additional useful features for that like say having it locked so an addict can't easily bust it open or something. you must be able to buy a real medical device version of this thing, right? sure! $800

hobbesmaster has issued a correction as of 03:51 on Apr 23, 2021

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


hobbesmaster posted:

so this is actually kind of a ridiculous rabbit hole. i was looking for one of the simple plastic weekly pill organizers and yup amazon has those for $2.50


ok but that looks a little flimsy, lets jump up to $6


there we go! now what if you needed day and night? $10


four times a day? only a dollar more!


eh thats pretty ugly can we get that in wackier colors


oh, is that not manly enough for you? ok


oh but what if I want to be able to lose components


wait thats dumb


fine but what if I want to portion out an entire month's worth of pills into little plastic cups. we're up to $19 now!


ok fine I get it you can make little plastic containers and it'll always be under $20. surely you can tape a lovely alarm clock on there to remind you right. $29


not that lovely you say? better step up to $70!


but wait a second, we have these electronics but they're not actually dispensers are they? for only $10 more we can get an actual automatic dispenser that works exactly the way you'd think it should work, you load up 28 positions worth of pills, program a simple little timer and however many times you need it a day it dials the position and an alarm clock goes off.


wow, that actually looks useful! but... thats not going to get us services revenue, surely we can attach a lovely smart phone app to it and get some more money. $150? well, that'll only get you one of those simple plastic ones with a couple little lights. $10 a month I think? ( https://www.amazon.com/Organizer-Alarms-Whenever-Automatically-Convenient/dp/B089761GD3/ )


our friendly robot is up at $300 and we're finally back to the capabilities of the $80 one without an app. we still don't have any additional useful features for that like say having it locked so an addict can't easily bust it open or something. you must be able to buy a real medical device version of this thing, right? sure! $800


Lmfao, I had only seen to like, the fifth stage or so, just looking around local pharmacies. This is the worst thing.

Delta-Wye
Sep 29, 2005
low end of the market is fully captured by cheap commodity manufacturing ($2.50 for raw materials, molding, silkscreening, cleaning & packaging, shipping across the ocean im sure, storage, shipping to your house, etc is crazy to me).

US companies hell bent on some significant profit margin have to come up with increasingly useless gimmicky poo poo to justify their existence and necessary markups. in this sort of environment it makes sense a 'car manufacturer' would realize investing in crypto is a better use of their fluid cash than investing in their supposed bread and butter - manufacturing cars.

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
i seriously have to know what happens to the dispenser if you stop paying the subscription

if it stops dispensing pills i feel like you'd have a hell of a lawsuit on your hands

edit:
aside from invisible infrastructure like poo poo like John Deer's bullshit, the first time i remember a public product tried this poo poo was Juicero and god what a disaster that was, and i remember that if the juice packet you scanned was expired, even by a minute, it wouldn't juice it for you lol

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
If you stop paying your escalator subscription it becomes stairs

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe

hobbesmaster posted:

so this is actually kind of a ridiculous rabbit hole. i was looking for one of the simple plastic weekly pill organizers and yup amazon has those for $2.50


ok but that looks a little flimsy, lets jump up to $6


there we go! now what if you needed day and night? $10


four times a day? only a dollar more!


eh thats pretty ugly can we get that in wackier colors


oh, is that not manly enough for you? ok


oh but what if I want to be able to lose components


wait thats dumb


fine but what if I want to portion out an entire month's worth of pills into little plastic cups. we're up to $19 now!


ok fine I get it you can make little plastic containers and it'll always be under $20. surely you can tape a lovely alarm clock on there to remind you right. $29


not that lovely you say? better step up to $70!


but wait a second, we have these electronics but they're not actually dispensers are they? for only $10 more we can get an actual automatic dispenser that works exactly the way you'd think it should work, you load up 28 positions worth of pills, program a simple little timer and however many times you need it a day it dials the position and an alarm clock goes off.


wow, that actually looks useful! but... thats not going to get us services revenue, surely we can attach a lovely smart phone app to it and get some more money. $150? well, that'll only get you one of those simple plastic ones with a couple little lights. $10 a month I think? ( https://www.amazon.com/Organizer-Alarms-Whenever-Automatically-Convenient/dp/B089761GD3/ )


our friendly robot is up at $300 and we're finally back to the capabilities of the $80 one without an app. we still don't have any additional useful features for that like say having it locked so an addict can't easily bust it open or something. you must be able to buy a real medical device version of this thing, right? sure! $800


What if I need one that is gun-themed?

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus


Wonder when we are going to get a sundial with a webcam attached to it. Subscription of course be required.

Delta-Wye
Sep 29, 2005

Zil posted:

Wonder when we are going to get a sundial with a webcam attached to it. Subscription of course be required.

for $800 you'd think the junkie one would at least do the coldwater extraction for you. bad investment!

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon
Like, a gun that shoots out your prescription pills right in your own mouth? I think we got a Kickstarter right here boils and ghouls

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

The Bloop posted:

If you stop paying your escalator subscription it becomes stairs

sorry for the convenience!

Malleum
Aug 16, 2014

Am I the one at fault? What about me is wrong?
Buglord

Colonel Cancer posted:

Like, a gun that shoots out your prescription pills right in your own mouth? I think we got a Kickstarter right here boils and ghouls

the pill gun for pets already exists, and the market is ripe for disruption

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

withak posted:

What if I need one that is gun-themed?



though thats a pillbox. i didn't even get to the metal ones!

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
It wouldn't shoot the pills obviously, that would be stupid. It would just dispense them from the barrel maybe, or maybe just one of those simple ones but shaped like an ammo clip?


edit: That tactical one might work.

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.






useful if your pills are the size of your tongue

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

hobbesmaster posted:



though thats a pillbox. i didn't even get to the metal ones!


everything in my everyday carry is Tactical, including the pillbox with my antidepressants and boner pills.

searching that bizarre turn of phrase on the top one lead me to an object of wonder.

Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

Juicero was amazing in its terribleness. You could just squeeze the juice packets by hand or cut them open!

RandolphCarter
Jul 30, 2005


Biplane posted:

Juicero was amazing in its terribleness. You could just squeeze the juice packets by hand or cut them open!

Weren’t they basically Capri suns?

Lord of Pie
Mar 2, 2007


The Oldest Man posted:

What if the alternatives are dead crew members or a live accompanying Elon Musk

Musk would probably have enough weed in his system to count as an edible so there's a bonus if you eat him first

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uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

RandolphCarter posted:

Weren’t they basically Capri suns?

it was a Keurig coffee maker but for juice. it had DRM so you couldn't use off brand juice pods and it had to be connected to the internet all the time.

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