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Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

NYC has had such a cavalcade of terrible mayors that I can’t even hate Yang that much. He simply can never compare to Bloomberg or Giuliani, no matter how annoying he gets.

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mrmcd
Feb 22, 2003

Pictured: The only good cop (a fictional one).

He'd probably be worse that Bloomberg. Bloomberg was a fairly competent administrator, he just didn't give a poo poo about anything unless it was important to millionaires or the donor industries of Wall St and Real Estate.

Yang would just be an endless amount of reddit ideas guy bullshit. He lose half the city budget to some Musk level conman scheme within the first year.

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

it would be years and years of poo poo like this

https://twitter.com/AndrewYang/status/1359992211186843649?s=20

and an endlessly ballooning NYPD budget

Tulip
Jun 3, 2008

yeah thats pretty good


mrmcd posted:

He'd probably be worse that Bloomberg. Bloomberg was a fairly competent administrator, he just didn't give a poo poo about anything unless it was important to millionaires or the donor industries of Wall St and Real Estate.

Yang would just be an endless amount of reddit ideas guy bullshit. He lose half the city budget to some Musk level conman scheme within the first year.

If the legends from my office (Medicaid) are anything to go by, Bloomberg was a staggeringly incompetent administrator. It feels like 75% of the work we do is cleaning up messes he made, and fucker hasn't even been our boss for nearly a decade.

CaptainPsyko posted:

All my homies hate Andrew Yang.


This is a good thing, it represents the fact that people have started to pay attention to the race, and it's moving past pure name recognition, but also that the campaign has more time to settle and for people to actually be convinced by one or another candidate.

Yeah it looks like confidence in Yang peaked in February and then Yang started to appear in the news as a person rather than just the generic concept of 'has been in the national spotlight before' so he's been dropping. "Other" is the other one that's dropping, and fortunately Stringer and Morales seem to be the next biggest beneficiaries after "Don't know."

QUEER FRASIER
May 31, 2011

honestly, Yang might be the lesser of two evils between him and Eric Adams

let’s hope it doesn’t come to that. I know I deserve to be stripped of my nojoe for that

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




uft is supporting stringer they just announced this evening

Madd0g11
Jun 14, 2002
Bitter Vet
Lipstick Apathy

mrmcd posted:


Yang would just be an endless amount of reddit ideas guy bullshit. He lose half the city budget to some Musk level conman scheme within the first year.

MONORAIL

mrmcd
Feb 22, 2003

Pictured: The only good cop (a fictional one).

Tulip posted:

If the legends from my office (Medicaid) are anything to go by, Bloomberg was a staggeringly incompetent administrator. It feels like 75% of the work we do is cleaning up messes he made, and fucker hasn't even been our boss for nearly a decade.

I mean yeah it could've been a total poo poo show behind the scenes for all I know. I just remember it being relatively drama free aside from him literally not giving a poo poo about anyone poor and ridiculing anyone who suggested we shouldt give a poo poo. Anecdotally career city govt functionaries seem to dislike DeBlasio way more the Bloomberg.

Also though there was that one total shitshow snowstorm where everything was hosed up for like three days because Bloomberg refused to spend money on hiring plows or buying salt because the end of the fiscal year was almost there. Just remembered that lmao.

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012


Peo-ple's bank

ughhhh
Oct 17, 2012

mrmcd posted:


Also though there was that one total shitshow snowstorm where everything was hosed up for like three days because Bloomberg refused to spend money on hiring plows or buying salt because the end of the fiscal year was almost there. Just remembered that lmao.

You forgot the part where he sold the city snow plow fleet to private companies which the city then had to hire to clear snow. It was in 2013 under the city vehicle fleet consolidation program (a good and nessesary step, but with a whole bunch of messed up things included in it).

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

ughhhh posted:

You forgot the part where he sold the city snow plow fleet to private companies which the city then had to hire to clear snow.included in it).

Yeah, see, this is the sort of thing I can't imagine Yang doing. That and the stop and frisk.

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

I distinctly remember a lot of the people favorably talking about Bloomberg basically saying that he’s already so ludicrously wealthy that he’d be less likely to use the office for personal enrichment

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

Scrub-Niggurath posted:

I distinctly remember a lot of the people favorably talking about Bloomberg basically saying that he’s already so ludicrously wealthy that he’d be less likely to use the office for personal enrichment

people believe this too

JAY ZERO SUM GAME
Oct 18, 2005

Walter.
I know you know how to do this.
Get up.


hell that was the narrative behind trump, Romney, and Bloomberg for their presidential runs. Perot used that line in the 96 election

amazing doublethink

Tulip
Jun 3, 2008

yeah thats pretty good


mrmcd posted:

Anecdotally career city govt functionaries seem to dislike DeBlasio way more the Bloomberg.

As an early-career city functionary, you're talking to different city functionaries than I am.

I will say that I've seen some variation - NYPD obviously hates DeBlasio way more, and Social Services (where I have most of my experience) hates Bloomberg with incredible depth and passion. Finance seems to be a real hive of hating DeBlasio because they're at the sharp end of his most annoying habit as a boss (pouring everything into a project for exactly as long as it takes to cut a ribbon and then peeling out ASAP).

Scrub-Niggurath posted:

I distinctly remember a lot of the people favorably talking about Bloomberg basically saying that he’s already so ludicrously wealthy that he’d be less likely to use the office for personal enrichment

lol literally an argument that de Tocqueville poo poo all over when talking about good things about America

Dr. VooDoo
May 4, 2006


Yang would 100% try to start a program to scrap the subway system in order to have those dumb Musk car tunnels from Vegas replace it while having an app developed to allow Bitcoin to be used to pay for fare and would buy a bunch of Boston Dynamic Spot robots for the NYPD with remote controlled tasers strapped to their heads

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Dr. VooDoo posted:

Yang would 100% try to start a program to scrap the subway system in order to have those dumb Musk car tunnels from Vegas replace it while having an app developed to allow Bitcoin to be used to pay for fare and would buy a bunch of Boston Dynamic Spot robots for the NYPD with remote controlled tasers strapped to their heads

He'd just have to strap the tasers at this point, I think they already have some.

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

yeah it just got deployed for the first time about a month or so ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24jufNhuUSI

Centrist Dad
Nov 13, 2007

When I see your posting
College Slice

Dr. VooDoo posted:

Yang would 100% try to start a program to scrap the subway system in order to have those dumb Musk car tunnels from Vegas replace it while having an app developed to allow Bitcoin to be used to pay for fare and would buy a bunch of Boston Dynamic Spot robots for the NYPD with remote controlled tasers strapped to their heads

Let me reminisce about all the mayors who presided over NY in my lifetime:

Beame: barely competent party hack, inherited a poo poo sandwich and was overwhelmed
Koch: pugnacious, quick-witted, deeply closeted. the classic 80s new yorker!
Dinkins: took office after the height of the crack epidemic, somehow made things worse
Guiliani: better living through fascism
Bloomberg: improved the city for white guys in all five boroughs
Deblasio: won office despite being hated by everybody. his wife heads a billion-dollar department to, i don't know, work on mental health or something

I would rather any of them over Yang, who seems like an aspergery tech bro. personally i like stringer, if only because of his pledge to support community boards against lovely developers who want to steamroll zoning rules. I thought about garcia for a while until i found out she explicitly promised to back the lovely developers :toot:.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos
L, and I cannot stress this enough, OL - Cuomo is starting to badmouth Tish James, he's getting real desperate.

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

Yang’s stance on the subway is actually more of wild populist impossible promises than technocracy

https://twitter.com/tweetbenmax/status/1349525668921561089

lol

https://twitter.com/danarubinstein/status/1384320974519156737

LegionAreI
Nov 14, 2006
Lurk
I am a filthy upstater, but you NYC goons please make sure that idiot doesn't get voted in or we will roll our eyes and tut at you forever.

What are the alternatives? There's gotta be someone who at least won't make everyone cringe every time he opens his mouth.

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

LegionAreI posted:

I am a filthy upstater, but you NYC goons please make sure that idiot doesn't get voted in or we will roll our eyes and tut at you forever.

What are the alternatives? There's gotta be someone who at least won't make everyone cringe every time he opens his mouth.

Counterpoint: Give me my loving money!

Seriously, after Trump I really don't care how embarrassing the idiot in charge is. If he wants to put control of the metro back into city control, that sounds great. If he wants to send me money, even better. Let him YOLO plank in Grand Central Terminal while dabbing dank vape videos about bitcoin.

More importantly, does his UBI plan replace welfare payments? Or is it in addition to them?

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

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Cpt_Obvious posted:

Counterpoint: Give me my loving money!

Seriously, after Trump I really don't care how embarrassing the idiot in charge is. If he wants to put control of the metro back into city control, that sounds great. If he wants to send me money, even better. Let him YOLO plank in Grand Central Terminal while dabbing dank vape videos about bitcoin.

More importantly, does his UBI plan replace welfare payments? Or is it in addition to them?

replaces

always has

he's just a grifter

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
His plan replaces all government benefits with a lump sum payment worth significantly less. He will take money away from you

MorrisBae
Jan 18, 2020

by Athanatos
All the city pension funds moved to bitcoin

What could go wrong

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

Gunshow Poophole posted:

replaces

always has

he's just a grifter

Great, now I hate him.

Cyber Punk 90210
Jan 7, 2004

The War Has Changed

In Training posted:

I fuckin hate Andrew Yang

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

"This basic income program will start with providing those who are living in extreme poverty with an average of $2,000 per year." lol I didn't realize how comically small this is, I decided to actually read his platform today

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

LegionAreI posted:

I am a filthy upstater, but you NYC goons please make sure that idiot doesn't get voted in or we will roll our eyes and tut at you forever.

What are the alternatives? There's gotta be someone who at least won't make everyone cringe every time he opens his mouth.

Hey, can you upstaters stop electing morons who keep voting against funding our subway?

The mayor doesn't matter, who gives a poo poo, they're all terrible.

LegionAreI
Nov 14, 2006
Lurk

Matt Zerella posted:

Hey, can you upstaters stop electing morons who keep voting against funding our subway?

The mayor doesn't matter, who gives a poo poo, they're all terrible.

Sorry, I'm surrounded by people who are terrified to ride Metro North, much less the subway in the city. :(

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Have any of the so called socialists we elected to the State Legislature said anything about impeaching Cuomo for murdering all those old people and for being a sex pest?

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

KomradeX posted:

Have any of the so called socialists we elected to the State Legislature said anything about impeaching Cuomo for murdering all those old people and for being a sex pest?

Not since the last batch. Everyone is waiting for the investigations now

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

haveblue posted:

Not since the last batch. Everyone is waiting for the investigations now

Ahh so they're just waiting for this to be officially buried.

Cause even if you wasnt to wait on the sec stuff it's more than clear he got thousands of New Yorkers killed for his donors

Tulip
Jun 3, 2008

yeah thats pretty good


KomradeX posted:

Ahh so they're just waiting for this to be officially buried.

Cause even if you wasnt to wait on the sec stuff it's more than clear he got thousands of New Yorkers killed for his donors

afaict that's just not impeachable or in any way a problem from the eyes of a state

lol for us

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Tulip posted:

afaict that's just not impeachable or in any way a problem from the eyes of a state

lol for us

Love this country

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

the republicans in the state assembly tried to impeach him for the nursing home deaths in feb (early March? I forget exactly) like two weeks before the abuse allegations started going public.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos
There's an impeachment proceeding going on as we speak.

Although it's not being seen very favorably by the former staffer group:

https://twitter.com/harassment_free/status/1385576456890327045

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

I assume Cuomo would have a easier time covering things up from an investigation run out of the AG's Office rather than by the Legislature, or am I misinterpreting that?

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Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

KomradeX posted:

I assume Cuomo would have a easier time covering things up from an investigation run out of the AG's Office rather than by the Legislature, or am I misinterpreting that?

He doesn't seem to think so:

Absurd Alhazred posted:

L, and I cannot stress this enough, OL - Cuomo is starting to badmouth Tish James, he's getting real desperate.

Although this could, itself, be some kind of wacky maneuver. I'm starting to get flashbacks to the Women's Equality Party he set up for the explicit purpose of messing with WFP when he didn't like that they endorsed (then desperately backed out of endorsing because of that all important ballot line) Zephyr Teachout for governor in 2014.

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