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Arcsquad12 posted:The only good isekai is the English dubbed version of Garzey's Wing. Smh not Outlaw Star where they literally go to another world and places in the universe.
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Apr 28, 2021 05:46
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Kaiser Mazoku posted:I will say that I believe that shonen/shojo/etc. terms need to be discarded already. Plenty of women like action-oriented series and plenty of dudes like floofy romance. No need for these outdated gendered labels anymore. They're not genres, they're demographics. People use them because it's what the whole manga industry uses to market their magazines and how creators talk about their works. There's absolutely tons of audience crossover but it's just a reality of how the industry works.
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Apr 28, 2021 05:46
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The 7th Guest posted:people were even more mad at her video about dragon maid being gross even though it was 100% true, dragon maid loving sucks and that in and of itself sucks because it could've been cool I like her follow-up to that one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ8oXOL1Tfk
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Apr 28, 2021 05:47
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Annointed posted:Smh not Outlaw Star where they literally go to another world and places in the universe. The dialogue isn't as memeable.
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Apr 28, 2021 05:48
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Solitair posted:I like her follow-up to that one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ8oXOL1Tfk They even go out of their way to point out the most important part about how media affects things. I guess I could also point out how #cancel culture seems to vary in effectiveness of those in power see presidents regarding #metoo, various rapists, and literal nazis and fash enablers. Kind of side eyeing about Contrapoints but it's the JK Rowling video so I guess at least it's not the videos where Ellis and Contrapoints end up pointing their mobs towards other people.
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Apr 28, 2021 05:49
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Motto posted:They're not genres, they're demographics. People use them because it's what the whole manga industry uses to market their magazines and how creators talk about their works. There's absolutely tons of audience crossover but it's just a reality of how the industry works. i know nothing about that whole scene, i just assume it's a situation where if a magazine is willing to publish you, you don't turn them down, regardless of who they are or what you make e: hanako-kun is great btw. i guess people knock it for its utilitarian animation but the art direction is flat out gorgeous The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 05:55 on Apr 28, 2021 |
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Apr 28, 2021 05:52
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Motto posted:They're not genres, they're demographics. People use them because it's what the whole manga industry uses to market their magazines and how creators talk about their works. There's absolutely tons of audience crossover but it's just a reality of how the industry works. I know and I'm saying that labeling things as "for boys" and "for girls" is an outdated practice that needs to die.
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Apr 28, 2021 05:56
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Annointed posted:I mean we could ignore how Subaru doesn't have a harem, is called out for his incel poo poo, self loathing, and depictions of other men and women as being better than him without giving him the out of being morally/physically/magically superior. I'm just saying mate there are merits here you're not considering. You seem to have mistaken my mild interest in youtube comments as a deep opinionated view on an isekai anime. The 7th Guest posted:people were even more mad at her video about dragon maid being gross even though it was 100% true, dragon maid loving sucks and that in and of itself sucks because it could've been cool Dragon Maid is cute and decent when it's, largely, just a developing gay couple and their adoptive daughter. Then the rest of the stuff you mentioned creeps in more and more. I liked the first season in spite of that stuff, but I'm not really planning to check in with the second season since they're planning to include the character who's entire gimmick for a very long time is basically just "Oh I'm actually bad at shapeshifting so I have to have giant boobs, so giant in fact I can't wear normal clothes! How inconvenient!" I feel like the OVA they made wrapped up the anime nice enough that there wasn't a huge need for a season two, either. So it's pretty whatever.
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Apr 28, 2021 05:57
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Arcsquad12 posted:The only good isekai is the English dubbed version of Garzey's Wing.
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Apr 28, 2021 05:59
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Nuebot posted:You seem to have mistaken my mild interest in youtube comments as a deep opinionated view on an isekai anime. I just wanna talk about rezero and its positives  Things that seriously would be better for Dragon Maid is less sexualization of child coded characters. Like seriously I can live without that. On the bright side with the noralities videos she seemed to have major positive reception from the youtube algorithm. I hope it sticks and continues. I really enjoy her art, editing and narration and it culminates in someone I find interesting to watch.
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Apr 28, 2021 06:02
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Gwen posted:in this particular case you can argue for and against the case that it's coercive. In my opinion it is kink but one side is less into it for their own preferences but because it makes the other happy. There's room for explorations of hesistancy in intimate relationships and the fact that it continues and eventually becomes normalized in their dynamic says to me that it's that. Feel free to disagree. I didn't watch the anime because of my issues with the manga, but it was pretty clear there Miyamura wasn't okay with it so it got played as a joke.
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Apr 28, 2021 06:06
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Annointed posted:I just wanna talk about rezero and its positives I'm not going to watch the show so lay it on me, then. Annointed posted:Things that seriously would be better for Dragon Maid is less sexualization of child coded characters. Also bad news on that front: unless the second season completely alters course, it's only going to get worse. I read the manga before the anime came out and I stopped when that stuff got so egregious I felt straight up uncomfortable reading it any more, then looked into what else the creator had made and just 
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Apr 28, 2021 06:10
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Annointed posted:I just wanna talk about rezero and its positives Doesn't... subaru actually have a harem? Or is like, 3-4 girls and Felix being into him not enough to count? not that big into re zero but I think there was the white hair girl, one or two of the maid girls, maybe one of the witches or something?
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Apr 28, 2021 06:13
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Arcsquad12 posted:The only good isekai is the English dubbed version of Garzey's Wing. Tomino's Dunbine is widely credited for popularizing the genre in Japan, and Garzey's Wing was a spinoff. No joke.
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Apr 28, 2021 06:30
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MechaX posted:So uh, should I play a Romance of the Three Kingdoms game or Total War: Three Kingdoms Three Kingdoms owns and is the most competent and approachable Total War has ever been, primarily off the characters of Romance actually being in focus. For example, you can have fun being very cursed,  Or pursuing Lu Bu, 
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Apr 28, 2021 06:30
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Schwarzwald posted:Tomino's Dunbine is widely credited for popularizing the genre in Japan, and Garzey's Wing was a spinoff. No joke. Oh I know. I just find Tomino being responsible for Garzey's Wing hilarious. Dude had an "interesting" output during the 90s.
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Apr 28, 2021 06:33
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MiddleOne posted:For example, you can have fun being very cursed, Thinking back to a post I made a long time ago in the Warriors thread, my favorite history bending marriage I secured back in 8E was Lu Bu, with Zhu Rong. When that child happens the world is doomed.
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Apr 28, 2021 06:38
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Pachylad posted:For a specific example of this: Jourdain Searles quote tweeted a picture of Song vs. Song podcast and said "The podcast I blocked out here is Song vs. Song, which is a show hosted by an abuser and an enabler of an abuser. the abuser in question emotionally abused me and kissed me without consent and the cohost enables his abuse, even after I told him what happened." Talking about abusers is a legitimate reason for subtweeting, because it let's you talk about it and them without them being notified and starting it up again. It's especially valid when someone is a habitual namesearcer and likes to point out targets for their fans. Like we have recent examples like Contra and Ellis doing stuff like namesearching(even sometimes block evading) to put people's tweets in their videos , which fuels harassment of those people, of course they'd rather sub tweet than be exposed to stuff like that.
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Apr 28, 2021 06:52
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Arcsquad12 posted:The only good isekai is the English dubbed version of Garzey's Wing. When I die, I want someone to carve "I MUST SOMEHOW MAKE SENSE OF OUR CONVOLUTED SITUATION" onto my tombstone. Garzey's Wing is just such a profoundly bizarre experience on almost every level, even without the hilarious dub. The pacing feels like Tomino was on the mother of all caffeine highs when he was blocking everything out. Edit: I'm pretty sure the Wikipedia article is a stealth gag written by someone who watched the dub. Like it does give an overview of the plot but... Wikipedia posted:The series centers around the slave's escape, the conflict between the King's army and the slaves, as well as Chris' struggle to make sense of his convoluted situation. MechanicalTomPetty fucked around with this message at 07:04 on Apr 28, 2021 |
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Apr 28, 2021 06:57
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Vagabundo posted:This channel came up in my recommended. I have no idea why, but I've been binging on the videos. Kuga is relaxing as hell. This whole past year I've been on a travel kick (can't imagine why lol) and my brain is made very happy learning the ins and outs of random cruise ships/hotels/trains/planes + drooling over all the incredible food.
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Apr 28, 2021 07:07
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Hel posted:Talking about abusers is a legitimate reason for subtweeting, because it let's you talk about it and them without them being notified and starting it up again. It's especially valid when someone is a habitual namesearcer and likes to point out targets for their fans. Like we have recent examples like Contra and Ellis doing stuff like namesearching(even sometimes block evading) to put people's tweets in their videos , which fuels harassment of those people, of course they'd rather sub tweet than be exposed to stuff like that. Uhhh that's a terrible idea. If you're seriously worried about your abuser knowing you're talking about them don't talk about them on a public platform, they will find out. Also in said Contra and Ellis videos there are examples of subtweets that still get brought up. Twitter is a public platform, don't post about someone if you aren't comfortable with them finding out. (actually just don't post on Twitter)
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Apr 28, 2021 07:20
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Having finished the video all I can is that there's a lot of weird errors on a basic analysis level to the point that my conclusion is mostly that trying to be part of "The Anime Community" in the broadest terms is really miserable and ironically locks you into only perceiving a really narrow range of material. The story she tells about her and her friends hearing about a new popular shounen and having to either brace for a shoe drop or have someone test it for the rest of them is a huge bummer, but mostly because it's possible to engage with media in entirely different ways than that. It won't put you on the fore of AniTwitter/AniTube/whatever, but honestly why would you want to? Motto fucked around with this message at 08:03 on Apr 28, 2021 |
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Apr 28, 2021 07:24
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Nuebot posted:I'm not going to watch the show so lay it on me, then. Well for one Subaru did an event where he disrespected his patron Emelia so hard in front what was basically the introduction of all presidential nominees by going on about being some knight, despite his patron saying “don’t do that” pissing off the royals and the knights, gets beat up by one of said knights, broke his magic gate in some desperate bid only to fail leaving him a beat up humiliated mess making Emelia look bad as well. And when Subaru goes on some incel rant saying it was all for Emelia, she says “the image of me in your head must be amazing” and ditched him. Showing that Subaru was basically doing this for some reward and not thinking about the feelings and desires of Emelia. As one thing, the episode was raw as gently caress. As for dragon maid aw gently caress I didn’t get that far in the manga. And now I feel less desire to read. I just want to read wholesome lesbians without feeling like I’m on the FBI watch list. Acerbatus posted:Doesn't... subaru actually have a harem? Or is like, 3-4 girls and Felix being into him not enough to count? No he does not. Emelia the white hair girl was always the one he was into. Rem the blue hair maid was another girl he was into, but straight told Rem to his face after a massive love confession that he loved Emelia. Ram only trolled Subaru, Felix only messed with him but has no attraction to Subaru, the other Candidates only had things to teach Subaru, and the witches from season two seemed more to mess with him rather than want a relationship with him. Like seriously the scenes with the witches seemed more like what happens when Irish Fae find a new human that they find interesting.
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Apr 28, 2021 07:59
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While you can argue the merit of that isekai video, my main takeaway is that she feels that there really aren't many shows that are made for her and that she gets frustrated when she does find something she enjoys only for male gaze and certain conventions to snap her out of it. And that is a pretty valid thing to take issue with. It sucks to feel that way, because ive been there where you find a show that seems compelling only to get hit with an "oh, we're doing this are we?" moment that just deflates you.
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Apr 28, 2021 08:07
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Dire Lemming posted:Uhhh that's a terrible idea. If you're seriously worried about your abuser knowing you're talking about them don't talk about them on a public platform, they will find out. Also in said Contra and Ellis videos there are examples of subtweets that still get brought up. Twitter is a public platform, don't post about someone if you aren't comfortable with them finding out. (actually just don't post on Twitter) Of course you can still be a target, and there need to be better ways but for some it's a calculated risk that can warn others or let you talk about it without instantly bringing abuse from people with Google alerts and poo poo. But my point was more that subtweting about the abuse you've gotten, doesn't make you an rear end in a top hat or mean you are lying, like the other poster seemed to argue, subtweeting can be a terrible idea while still being a legitimate thing to do.
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Apr 28, 2021 08:17
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Arcsquad12 posted:While you can argue the merit of that isekai video, my main takeaway is that she feels that there really aren't many shows that are made for her and that she gets frustrated when she does find something she enjoys only for male gaze and certain conventions to snap her out of it. And that is a pretty valid thing to take issue with. It sucks to feel that way, because ive been there where you find a show that seems compelling only to get hit with an "oh, we're doing this are we?" moment that just deflates you. Yeah I heavily sympathize with her on the lack of isekai shows towards women and the increasing bottom of the barrel adaptions until it’s all abuseslaveryrevengepornrapemalepowerfantasy garbage that fills the internet like so much spam.
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Apr 28, 2021 08:24
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Motto posted:
Wonder how she feels about Fairy Ranmaru that's airing this season, cause I haven't seen something being this aggressively pandering to fujo's/fudanshi in a while. If anything, I think that while shounen series will always be the cornerstone of the industry, there's a slow increase of anime geared towards women or at least inclusive to women.
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Apr 28, 2021 08:33
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Hel posted:Of course you can still be a target, and there need to be better ways but for some it's a calculated risk that can warn others or let you talk about it without instantly bringing abuse from people with Google alerts and poo poo. I think your whole post is missing a good deal of nuance, especially with regards to the specific situation I was talking about, but given how admittedly this is bordering into personal taboo stuff, I'll just say that I do agree with the bolded stuff in your post here and leave it at that.
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Apr 28, 2021 09:16
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Archer666 posted:Wonder how she feels about Fairy Ranmaru that's airing this season, cause I haven't seen something being this aggressively pandering to fujo's/fudanshi in a while. If anything, I think that while shounen series will always be the cornerstone of the industry, there's a slow increase of anime geared towards women or at least inclusive to women. The Saint's Magic Power is Omnipotent is an isekai also airing this season aimed at female office workers.
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Apr 28, 2021 09:22
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Isekai is trash, please stop talking about it. In non anime stuff, I'm kinda obsessed with all the drama relating to that Tramp Stamps band. I've seen the videos that fantano has done, anyone else know about some decent videos on them?
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Apr 28, 2021 09:26
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Testekill posted:Isekai is trash, please stop talking about it. Swell Entertainment just put out a video about that. There are some good and even great isekai shows but they're easy to miss amidst all the pandering garbage. Just like any other genre that gets popular.
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Apr 28, 2021 09:32
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Annointed posted:Well for one Subaru did an event where he disrespected his patron Emelia so hard in front what was basically the introduction of all presidential nominees by going on about being some knight, despite his patron saying “don’t do that” pissing off the royals and the knights, gets beat up by one of said knights, broke his magic gate in some desperate bid only to fail leaving him a beat up humiliated mess making Emelia look bad as well.
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Apr 28, 2021 09:32
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i'm not very imprezad by this subaru
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Apr 28, 2021 09:33
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sounds like this subaru guy is leaving a bad legacy
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Apr 28, 2021 09:33
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there's a fair number of good otome game-based ones, even if the formula is fairly stale, the writing for some is fun or just good as hell. Bakarina is the most popular one at the moment, but there's a good number of others. The daughter of the albert house wishes for ruin, the observation diary of my fiancee, the self-proclaimed villainess which is imo superior to bakarina, may I please just ask you one last thing, and a recent one I've been reading that is just fantastic, the way to protect the female lead's older brother. there's plenty of others I've been reading but I can't remember the exact names off the top of my head and mangadex temporarily exploded so I can't check my bookmarks, but there's a good number of them.
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Apr 28, 2021 09:33
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like he's missing the forrester for the trees
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Apr 28, 2021 09:33
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and he's a real BRAT okay thats the last one
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Apr 28, 2021 09:34
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Captain Invictus posted:There's a fair number of good otome game-based ones Obey Me! is getting an anime and that's all I needed on my otome games. A game where you make pacts with and flirt with various demon guys  Lucifer, Mammon, Leviathan, Satan, Asmodeus, Beelzebub, Belphegor 
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Apr 28, 2021 10:27
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As a random list I think there're some good isekai Beware the Villainess -Woman gets pulled into a book, is absolutely repulsed at how awful all the male potential romance characters in it are, keeps getting involved to keep them from charming the female protagonist. Bakarina- Love-oblivious but good-intentioned girl gets brought into a game with lots of easy to stumble across game overs as basically the minor-antagonist Villainess that dies by the end of the first act. By not acting actually being them, she ends up befriending basically everyone she meets. Villainess LVL 99- Drawn into a game but her character is normally the secret boss of it. So she starts training early on just to be safe- as gently caress level 10 is an impressively high stat in this world and the school year only just started. Reincarnated as Sword- Literally what it says on the tin. Granted, they get themselves stuck in the ground in an area that drains MP so they're trapped there and only happen to be freed by an enslaved catgirl. And their first move is to kill the save her by killing the slavers and shredding the contract. He has not stopped being a sword at all in the story so don't worry about that. Death is the Only Ending for the Villainess- Hard mode version of a game with limited options. It has her only able to use text box choices for her next descions for like 4 or 8 chapters before she's able to turn that off. Basically it's all about status. She's doing her best to avoid getting killed so she can get thr gently caress out of dodge by whatever means are available since she's starting out at like 10% favorability with people in her family right now. I'm terrible at explaining why I like things, if anyone wants to take over feel free.
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Apr 28, 2021 12:34
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Ascendance of a Bookworm is still my favorite because it flips the usual power fantasy concept on its head. She doesn’t have to save the world because it doesn’t need saving; she’s just trying to make books and not die from her weird magical ailment in the process. It’s an interesting variation on the “transported character kickstarts the industrial revolution through modern knowledge” subgenre, since she’s doing it to achieve a very specific goal that’s important to her, not to win a war or any of the usual reasons this happens. Plus it avoids the usual creepy plot point of having a reincarnated character in a child's body paired romantically with characters who are actually underage. There's some puppy love from her friend, but it hasn't gone any further than that and it doesn't look likely to, at least until he's of an appropriate age.
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Apr 28, 2021 13:13
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