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Cicero posted:The biggest selling point of Texas isn't lack of state income tax, it's vastly lower housing prices. California can't stop constantly dunking on everyone who isn't already a landowner and it sucks. The whole reason why California has horrible poverty rates is just because of housing eating up all the wages. California Liberals are just the worst. They "support" everything while resisting any kind of change that would benefit anyone. Its the state of NIBMYism
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eSporks posted:
that's just liberals in general
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Apr 28, 2021 17:46
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seriously all of the people who say there's CalExodus because of taxes are boomers who will never leave because they pay zero loving dollars in property tax on their unearned windfall the real people leaving the state are people who have enough money to move and are employable enough to expect to find a job, but who can never, ever afford a house, like the "healthcare pls" wojack but it's saying, "3bdrms so I can have a family pls"
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Apr 28, 2021 17:50
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Shear Modulus posted:that's just liberals in general Yeah I got some bad news for the OP about Texas liberals, same poo poo. And driving through Central Texas and seeing all the development going on with new big family homes taking up more space than they should, it definitely seems like history is repeating itself.
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Apr 28, 2021 17:57
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Infinite Karma posted:No joke, the reason I've heard cited is that Congress doesn't want to change that formula because they can't physically fit more members in the building for floor votes, and they'd need to have over 1000 members to get to parity. Yeah, it's so dumb. Imagine Congress turning its nose up at an opportunity to spend billions making a bigger House chamber! (Also, wtf, the current building fits all the Reps, plus, all the Senators, plus a pile of guests in the gallery for State of the Union speeches. It can totally fit more.)
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Apr 28, 2021 18:08
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If we reverted back to the original formula in the constitution we'd be at like 4000 hours members which would frankly rule.
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Apr 28, 2021 18:11
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The "oh where would we put them" is a fun excuse, but the real reason is that there are 435 people who don't want to dilute their votes. More representation means each individual lawmaker is that much less powerful.
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Apr 28, 2021 18:15
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Wicked Them Beats posted:The "oh where would we put them" is a fun excuse, but the real reason is that there are 435 people who don't want to dilute their votes. More representation means each individual lawmaker is that much less powerful. it also means they might be expected to be more responsive to their constituents if they were representing 50,000 rather than 750,000, which is exactly what they don't want
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It would possibly allow for more diverse membership since you could feasibly elect people from the TRUMP FIRST party or the DSA... I wouldn't mind televoting with a third of the membership away for community engagement and outreach poo poo. FilthyImp fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Apr 28, 2021 |
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Apr 28, 2021 18:27
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Abolishing the senate would free up some space, just an idea
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Apr 28, 2021 18:33
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Wicked Them Beats posted:The "oh where would we put them" is a fun excuse, but the real reason is that there are 435 people who don't want to dilute their votes. More representation means each individual lawmaker is that much less powerful. I love to be a stalwart defender of democracy who also uses the size of a room built in the 19th century as the limit for how much democracy is ok.
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Apr 28, 2021 18:52
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adoration for none posted:I think the ground farted just now yeah that was a small one lol
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Apr 28, 2021 19:04
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Shear Modulus posted:that's just liberals in general There's also a lot more progressive policy for them to complain about. Bizarro Watt posted:Yeah I got some bad news for the OP about Texas liberals, same poo poo. I've actually seen some actual leftism here though. People are pretty pissed about Elon trying to buy a city, making bribes, and wanting to destroy wildlife habitat.
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Apr 28, 2021 19:38
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CPColin posted:Yeah, it's so dumb. Imagine Congress turning its nose up at an opportunity to spend billions making a bigger House chamber! (Also, wtf, the current building fits all the Reps, plus, all the Senators, plus a pile of guests in the gallery for State of the Union speeches. It can totally fit more.) Yeah it owns that bourgeois aesthetics are so completely bankrupt that they can’t imagine a large, modern, functional space that isn’t just bigger, gaudier, more oppressive classical architecture. Trump!
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FCKGW posted:If we reverted back to the original formula in the constitution we'd be at like 4000 hours members which would frankly rule. Can you imagine how many absolute basket cases would be in Congress? C-Span would immediately become the best channel on television.
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Apr 28, 2021 20:00
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Weembles posted:I love to be a stalwart defender of democracy who also uses the size of a room built in the 19th century as the limit for how much democracy is ok. the capitol, like much of california, is staunchly apposed to high density housing build up, stupid!
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Apr 28, 2021 20:09
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Kenning posted:Can you imagine how many absolute basket cases would be in Congress? C-Span would immediately become the best channel on television. yeah good thing we don't have any insane basket cases in congress now
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Apr 28, 2021 20:10
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sb hermit posted:I kinda wanna try skyline chili for the novelty of it No, you really don’t. Trust me.
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Apr 28, 2021 20:11
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Shear Modulus posted:yeah good thing we don't have any insane basket cases in congress now Lets not use ableist language to insult the very sane but very evil shitlords in congress.
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Apr 28, 2021 20:21
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Jaxyon posted:Lets not use ableist language to insult the very sane but very evil shitlords in congress. the most notable rising stars in congress, greene and boebert, are very much batshit crazy imo
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Apr 28, 2021 20:23
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Jaxyon posted:Lets not use ableist language to insult the very sane but very evil shitlords in congress. when u think of it, all adjectives are descriptive and hence exclusionary by nature
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Apr 28, 2021 20:26
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Shear Modulus posted:the most notable rising stars in congress, greene and boebert, are very much batshit crazy imo Yes I realize you don't want to give up the downward punching terms you use on people you don't like, but you can do better. Unless you're a trained mental/behavioral health professional in which case could you indicate what your diagnosis is for them and how they meet that criteria.
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Apr 28, 2021 20:26
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Jaxyon posted:Yes I realize you don't want to give up the downward punching terms you use on people you don't like, but you can do better. What are the diagnostic criteria for "batshit crazy"? I can't find it in the DSM
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Apr 28, 2021 20:31
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Jaxyon posted:Yes I realize you don't want to give up the downward punching terms you use on people you don't like, but you can do better. This kind of trolling erases indigenous, non-western, and colonized/oppressed modes of thinking and approaches to mental health.
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Apr 28, 2021 20:33
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what words would you use for the lady who thinks forest fires are caused by jewish space lasers? "poorly informed?"
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Apr 28, 2021 20:35
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Jaxyon posted:Yes I realize you don't want to give up the downward punching terms you use on people you don't like, but you can do better. Dog, I'm inclined to agree with you that it sucks to use mental health language as an insult, but holy poo poo the phrase "do better" is like the most cliche toxic discourse bullshit. Of course, I'm assuming you actually want to intervene in good faith and aren't just trolling a bit, in which case carry on.
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Apr 28, 2021 20:37
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Shear Modulus posted:what words would you use for the lady who thinks forest fires are caused by jewish space lasers? "poorly informed?" "Forest fires are caused by energy, and light is a form of energy, so WaPo's Glenn Kessler awards that claim one Pinocchio."
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Apr 28, 2021 20:42
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Honestly California is the one of the only states that pitches in state funding to do extra outreach for the census. It could very well be that california came out waaaay ahead of texas and there's a massively larger undercount in texas and other states.
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Kenning posted:Dog, I'm inclined to agree with you that it sucks to use mental health language as an insult, but holy poo poo the phrase "do better" is like the most cliche toxic discourse bullshit. Of course, I'm assuming you actually want to intervene in good faith and aren't just trolling a bit, in which case carry on. I agree. "do better" responses seem very low effort with respect to the change that the speaker actually wants to see.
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Bizarro Watt posted:Yeah I got some bad news for the OP about Texas liberals, same poo poo.
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:No, you really don’t. well, if I have to travel to Ohio (which could be pretty likely this year when the pandemic lifts), I have to look forward to something. I guess it'll have to be white castle. On the other hand, I've never tried waffle house...
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Shear Modulus posted:what words would you use for the lady who thinks forest fires are caused by jewish space lasers? "poorly informed?" A sucker E: and the Queen of Karens America Inc. fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Apr 28, 2021 |
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Centrist Committee posted:This kind of trolling erases indigenous, non-western, and colonized/oppressed modes of thinking and approaches to mental health. It's not trolling and if someone is an expert on non-western approaches I'd be happy to hear them. But we both know this is more about not wanting to give up downward punching insults. Kenning posted:Dog, I'm inclined to agree with you that it sucks to use mental health language as an insult, but holy poo poo the phrase "do better" is like the most cliche toxic discourse bullshit. Of course, I'm assuming you actually want to intervene in good faith and aren't just trolling a bit, in which case carry on. I am serious but I have absolutely zero belief that it will do anything because if there's one thing goons love it's calling people they don't like "crazy" and "fat" and I've got at least 2 or 3 red text titles because people got really mad about having to give them up.
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Apr 28, 2021 21:11
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Is this fat-shaming? https://youtu.be/t2mU6USTBRE
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Apr 28, 2021 21:27
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please ensure you're using the committee-approved term "person whose beliefs have dubious scientific merit" when referring to members of the fascist death cult that are destroying the planet
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Apr 28, 2021 21:29
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Jaxyon posted:if someone is an expert on non-western approaches I'd be happy to hear them. How magnanimous of you!
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Apr 28, 2021 21:30
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Centrist Committee posted:How magnanimous of you! Keep on punching downward, nobody is going to be able to tell you what to do! 
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Apr 28, 2021 21:34
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Jaxyon posted:It's not trolling and if someone is an expert on non-western approaches I'd be happy to hear them. I think it's your use of the term "downward punching insults", because criticizing those in power is not generally seen as "downward punching". The criticism comes from your co-opting that term from other groups that would genuinely be seen as oppressed, as mentioned: Centrist Committee posted:This kind of trolling erases indigenous, non-western, and colonized/oppressed modes of thinking and approaches to mental health.
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Apr 28, 2021 21:36
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/crazy "marked by thought or action that lacks reason" I dunno man. I'm repeating the same point made multiple times in this page but I dunno what other term would work better in this case.
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sb hermit posted:I think it's your use of the term "downward punching insults", because criticizing those in power is not generally seen as "downward punching". It think you don't understand this as well as you think do. It's downward punching because it punches at marginalized groups while claiming to be upward punching. MGT has about a billion things that can be made fun of or insult her with without saying something ableist. Or sexist(not that I've seen that done in this thread, but I have elsewhere). It's the fact that ableist language is used that makes it downward punching, not the target. In the same way that fat-shaming Trump is downward punching in part because it bodyshames and fatshames. You're telling people you claim to ally with that you're not actually allies, you're in fact just withholding your hatred of their bodies because you like them, but as soon as they're on you bad side you're going to be shaming them too. It's like using racial insults against Ben Carson. Or deadnaming/misgendering Caitlyn Jenner because you hate her politics. The main difference is that people here are not OK with transphobia or racism, even in those instances, but are OK with ableism and body shaming as long as the person they're doing it to is a bad person. edit: OH A DICTIONARY DEFINITION I know we that I have a serious thoughtful nuanced debate now 
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