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low key sex master posted:Oh no no no sorry - my uncle doesn't have cancer. Because cancer the disease hasn't been cured (and I mean all cancer) he won't get the vaccine Oh lol god drat what a dumb rear end haha That is probably the dumbest reason I’ve read (today). RIP your sweaty uncle.
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boar guy posted:if my pinball places enacted vaccine passports at 5 pm today i'd be there at 5:01 I tried explaining that isolating from people who aren't vaccinated yet makes sense from literally every angle you look at it, and I got something like "oh so the vaccine doesn't even prevent you from getting covid? I thought vaccines were supposed to make you immune I guess they are lying about that too" in response bless his heart
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MarcusSA posted:Oh lol god drat what a dumb rear end haha yeah my mom said each time she talks to him he comes up with a different excuse: apparently Pfizer and Moderna don't work for people his size or something i don't even know i was going to visit him this summer but nah, I ain't risking that
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Apr 28, 2021 18:56
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man all this vaccine hesistancy sure is bumming me out. i was thinking we'd be mostly back to normal by Halloween or Thanksgiving, lol
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Apr 28, 2021 19:00
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low key sex master posted:yeah my mom said each time she talks to him he comes up with a different excuse: apparently Pfizer and Moderna don't work for people his size or something i don't even know I'm 245 pounds and 5'8 or 5'9 and fat as gently caress and it definitely punched me around enough that it should've worked. boar guy posted:man all this vaccine hesistancy sure is bumming me out. i was thinking we'd be mostly back to normal by Halloween or Thanksgiving, lol It's feasible that we might see normalcy for vaccinated peoples by then. It's getting kids vaccinated that's going to be the ringer.
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Apr 28, 2021 19:04
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I made a new, updated version of my total deaths graph, with extra annotations. Feel free to steal this and use it as ammunition in your very important internet arguments. (I tried to dumb it down as much as possible.) My hope is it'll at least sow seeds of doubt in conspiracy theorists, because convincing them is probably impossible. A lot of conservatives are still hell-bent on claiming (a) Covid19 isn't very deadly, and (b) deaths are being wrongly categorized, for money. That's why I'm using Total Deaths, because alive vs dead is a lot harder to fudge.  This is taken directly from CDC/NCHS. I cut off 2021 around week 6 because this data lags by, like, months sometimes. Enjoy, goons. 
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https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2021/04/28/brazil-rejects-the-gamaleya-vaccine Russian_QC.txt quote:OK, now we need to talk about how you make big piles of virus if you’ve kept them from replicating. That’s an interesting question that has a slick solution: you’re going to be using human cells (often the HEK293 line) to expand your virus production, and what you do is engineer those human cells so that they make the missing E1 protein that the virus needs to replicate. So as long as you’re growing up virus in these engineered cells, you’ll make more, but if they infect normal human cells that haven’t been jiggered to make a key viral protein (as in when you inject them as a vaccine) they’ll stall out on replication immediately. Problem solved!
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boar guy posted:man all this vaccine hesistancy sure is bumming me out. i was thinking we'd be mostly back to normal by Halloween or Thanksgiving, lol I thought the same thing around this time last year. "All we have to do is all be cool and quarantine for 4-6 weeks." Ha. Hahahahaha.
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Apr 28, 2021 19:13
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boar guy posted:man all this vaccine hesistancy sure is bumming me out. i was thinking we'd be mostly back to normal by Halloween or Thanksgiving, lol Daily vaxx numbers are steadily dropping off in the US  https://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/ New Hampshire's graph is the worst of them all, they are done with this whole vaxx deal 
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Apr 28, 2021 19:15
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boar guy posted:man all I still think we should scrub "hesitancy" as a descriptor.
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Apr 28, 2021 19:21
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Daily vaxx numbers are steadily dropping off in the US so glad the usual suspects can't loving help but to politicize every loving thing under the sun
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Apr 28, 2021 19:24
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Daily vaxx numbers are steadily dropping off in the US
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Apr 28, 2021 19:25
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dwarf74 posted:What's the reporting lag on this? Because I'm hoping this is at least partially a reporting lag. Hoping desperately. I hope the "pause" on using Johnson and Johnson is also part of the dip.
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Apr 28, 2021 19:28
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Daily vaxx numbers are steadily dropping off in the US depending on the state, the phased rollouts were unnecessarily complicated and too drawn-out. it should have been, 1) old & sick/immunocompromised, 2) public sector & health care workers, 3) everyone else. i think a lot of people stopped paying attention to the nuances once the big news splash in Dec-Feb died out
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Apr 28, 2021 19:32
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Daily vaxx numbers are steadily dropping off in the US I think this was mentioned in the other thread, but could it be because we are on the tail end of people who are privileged enough to be able to have time away from their jobs/responsibilities to go out and get vaccinated? If anything else, we should try to make it easier to be vaccinated? Unlucky7 fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Apr 28, 2021 |
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Apr 28, 2021 19:34
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Laterite posted:depending on the state, the phased rollouts were unnecessarily complicated and too drawn-out. it should have been, 1) old & sick/immunocompromised, 2) public sector & health care workers, 3) everyone else. i think a lot of people stopped paying attention to the nuances once the big news splash in Dec-Feb died out Hopefully some of the states and sites that are transitioning away from appointments for shots and just letting people walk-up will help some of the folks on the edge get it, the people who seem to be only interested if it's super easy and convenient.
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Apr 28, 2021 19:35
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https://www.ithacajournal.com/story/news/nation/2021/04/27/private-miami-school-wont-hire-employees-who-get-covid-19-vaccine/4855194001/ cool, cool
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Apr 28, 2021 20:03
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Penguissimo posted:https://www.ithacajournal.com/story/news/nation/2021/04/27/private-miami-school-wont-hire-employees-who-get-covid-19-vaccine/4855194001/ You can take the title of The Absolute Worst out of Florida's cold dead hands presumably
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Apr 28, 2021 20:24
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Unlucky7 posted:I think this was mentioned in the other thread, but could it be because we are on the tail end of people who are privileged enough to be able to have time away from their jobs/responsibilities to go out and get vaccinated? If anything else, we should try to make it easier to be vaccinated? It may also just be that a significant portion of people have been vaccinated now and that people are waiting 2nd shots or starting to trickle in. Or maybe even some are waiting for their kids to be able to get it so everyone in the family can schedule together.
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Apr 28, 2021 20:25
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Re: cancer cures, ironically mRVA vaccines are actually a bleeding edge cancer treatment from before COVID even reared its ugly head.
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Apr 28, 2021 20:30
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Or it's people with weird excuses not getting it, like my friend waiting for a dead virus version of the vaccine for some reason? I didn't get into it with her as to why exactly.
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Apr 28, 2021 20:33
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Daily vaxx numbers are steadily dropping off in the US To be fair, New Hampshire's rapidly declining numbers are almost certainly at least partially due to the fact that they've already vaccinated more of their population than any other state in the mainland, with 60% of people there already having received one shot. They've also used a full 91% of the doses on hand (again higher than any other state): https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/covid-19-vaccine-doses.html#by-state
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Apr 28, 2021 20:35
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Got my 2nd pfizer shot three days ago. Arm was sore that initial night. Woke up fine, and have been fine. Thankful I had no side effects, I need every PTO I can get for an upcoming surgery.
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Apr 28, 2021 20:36
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Turbinosamente posted:Or it's people with weird excuses not getting it, like my friend waiting for a dead virus version of the vaccine for some reason? I didn't get into it with her as to why exactly. I mentioned how easy it was to get an appointment to someone and got loudly told "I'M NOT GETTING VACCINATED TIL COVID IS OVER."
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Turbinosamente posted:Or it's people with weird excuses not getting it, like my friend waiting for a dead virus version of the vaccine for some reason? I didn't get into it with her as to why exactly. That seemed like potentially a good bet at one point but it died the second those Pfizer shots went into Senators' arms and the poor dead-virus performance in Chinese trials slammed the coffin shut on it.
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Apr 28, 2021 20:53
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Unlucky7 posted:I think this was mentioned in the other thread, but could it be because we are on the tail end of people who are privileged enough to be able to have time away from their jobs/responsibilities to go out and get vaccinated? If anything else, we should try to make it easier to be vaccinated? maybe, or maybe everyone remaining is just gonna be that way
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About 18 hours out from AZ #1. nasty headache, body soreness, nausea, chills, fever at 101.3 would stand in line again for 4 hrs
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Apr 28, 2021 21:01
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low key sex master posted:The "official" infection and death rate is way too low and there's got to be a shitload of mutations that are occurring also, which is going to make it worse Yeah that's what I'm afraid of, I just get this sense of dread I haven't really felt so far throughout this pandemic that we're going to see numbers of tens of thousands dead every day in India alone  I get that news are always going to spice up and make things seem worse than they actually might be, it's still so mindfuckingly depressing to read about...
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ben shapino posted:My cousin seems to think vaccinated people choosing not to hang out with unvaccinated people is "discrimination" Well it is. It’s just that it’s cool & good discrimination.
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Platystemon posted:Well it is. You know that stupid rear end Faith Not Fear poo poo? Discretion not Discrimination. Greggster posted:Yeah that's what I'm afraid of, I just get this sense of dread I haven't really felt so far throughout this pandemic that we're going to see numbers of tens of thousands dead every day in India alone The world posted slightly under 15,000 deaths due to covid yesterday. When India's numbers start reporting better, it's gonna be bad.
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Philthy posted:Got my 2nd pfizer shot three days ago. Arm was sore that initial night. Woke up fine, and have been fine. Thankful I had no side effects, I need every PTO I can get for an upcoming surgery. Fwiw California passed a law that if you have side effects from the vaccine your sick time is supposed to be compensated.  I guess it’s supposed to be back dated to Jan 1.
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Apr 28, 2021 22:09
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MarcusSA posted:Fwiw California passed a law that if you have side effects from the vaccine your sick time is supposed to be compensated. Yes, it showed up on my last paycheck. Here's hoping I never need it!
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Apr 28, 2021 22:14
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They should have just said the vaccine makes your dick 4 inches longer and every redneck would have been first in line.
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Philthy posted:They should have just said the vaccine makes your dick 4 inches longer and every redneck would have been first in line. umm im pretty sure it would still be libs getting the vaccine and chuds mocking them for it
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MarcusSA posted:I know a guy who also has cancer and he’s finishing his treatment and the doctor won’t give him the vaxx till he’s completely done with the treatment. That's in line with the current guidance. If you need to have surgery the guidance is to try to get you fully vaccinated before it takes place, but otherwise it recommends waiting until after treatment is complete. I finished chemotherapy a year ago and no-one really knows how well the vaccine will work for me. I had my first shot three weeks ago but I know I can't rely on the vaccine alone.
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My uncle has not gotten the vaccine. He claims he is not opposed to vaccines since he gets the flu shot but wants to “see how things progress”. I don’t understand it. He’s older, has underlying health issues, and is (up until this point), smart. He goes to the dr, follows up, and has made lifestyle changes to offset diabetes risk and cholesterol/blood pressure. But nothing. My dad is the opposite. He ignores doctors, ignores his health issues, basically ignores everything. He has rendered himself to using a walker because he ignores getting PT. He continues to drink even though he has kidney issues. Yet he actually got the vaccine which is huge since it meant he left the house. The last update I got from my mother (fully vaccinated) was he refused. Just found out he got it. So yea?! I’ve tried talking to my uncle. Nothing works so it is what it is. I found out my closest friend’s brother had Covid and is still on supplemental oxygen months later. He’s younger than me and that is scary to be a long hauler. So yeah. My husband and I go next week for our second shot. I really hope more get it and we can resume the new normal.
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Pyrtanis posted:About 18 hours out from AZ #1. nasty headache, body soreness, nausea, chills, fever at 101.3 I had similar with my AZ jab on Monday, was mostly recovered at 24 hours My queue was 5 minutes though 
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MarcusSA posted:Fwiw California passed a law that if you have side effects from the vaccine your sick time is supposed to be compensated. Our company gave us 4 hours to use to get the vaccine, and 2 weeks we can use if we test positive and miss work. Nothing for the side effects tho. I suspect if this becomes a yearly booster shot and side effects still happen then they'll add a day.
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Got my first AZ shot about an hour ago, and am already very tired. I expected that though, I react strongly and quickly to everything.
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I want to chime in and say that my friend got his final chest reconstruction surgery this month and he was only required to get tested ; this is one of those people who claimed " I already had it (January 2020) " He absolutely does not have the vaccine, they put him under the knife It might just be FL but absolutely do not assume even baseline safety practice really anywhere
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