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Steakandchips posted:This FJR1300 is looking pretty great. Went and took a look at it today. Guy who has it has a massive double garage, where he and his son likes to work on bikes and cars. His son was actually wrenching on his car as we looked at bikes. He's currently taking up electric mountain biking, and he's 50+! You can see the mountain bike has had good use too. He was also wiring up an electric rack for his SUV to hold the mountain bikes. Knows his stuff clearly. Anyway, the FJR is in excellent condition, no rust, kept beautifully clean. Heated grips, electric windscreen, started up first time. Recently had the cam belt replaced, and a full service. He offered me a test ride, I said, "let me come back next time, ready to buy and I'll take you up on the test ride, you can ride Fat Bob and I'll ride the FJR, perhaps to Doune and back". He's totally cool with that and isn't in any great rush to sell it. We didn't talk numbers but I suspect he'll let it go happily at £2500 which would be a steal. SOMEONE BUY MY HONDA 125!
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Steakandchips posted:Went and took a look at it today. Guy who has it has a massive double garage, where he and his son likes to work on bikes and cars. His son was actually wrenching on his car as we looked at bikes. He's currently taking up electric mountain biking, and he's 50+! You can see the mountain bike has had good use too. He was also wiring up an electric rack for his SUV to hold the mountain bikes. Knows his stuff clearly. This is the kind of PO you want to buy from.
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Apr 25, 2021 12:26
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I really want it, but need that Honda to sell first.
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Apr 25, 2021 16:56
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I'm starting the research/salivating for a second bike and could use some input. I'm pretty sure this exact question gets asked on here a lot and I've read the info-dumps before but since bikes are exciting I'd love for the experienced goons to shower me with knowledge for the thousandth time. What is your favorite dual-sport bike that you'd push someone toward? I'd like to do trail-riding but also load up some bags or hardshell cases and take off for a bit too. I was looking at things like the DRZ400, DR650, KLR650, KLX250, CRF450, all of those bikes. It won't be just for offroad so I don't want something entirely purpose-built that can't handle my weight and cargo over modest distances, meaning I don't want a little 125 or something. But if I'm totally wrong with that opinion I'll listen of course. I think the consensus has usually been "get a DR650" for this kind of post but I love goon words.
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Apr 27, 2021 14:39
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Thoughts on a CRF250L vs other alternatives? Something to ride to a dirt road without needing to trailer it. Others I’m kind of keeping an eye on are the KLX230/250 and maybe DR200 or DRZ400. Really depends on what pops up used locally for a price that falls into somewhat impulse buy territory.
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Apr 27, 2021 14:57
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A crf250l weighs the same as a dr650. Food for thought.
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Apr 27, 2021 19:18
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Currently considering an FJ-09 or Tiger 800 XRX/some other street oriented variant. Lots of riding will either be a short commute or a good chunk of highway miles before getting to more curved roads. Occasional day or road trips and/or bike camping. Previous bike was an FZ6. Loved it. The riding position and power were perfect for what I needed. I'm looking at those two because I like the aesthetic, they have a similar riding position, slightly higher displacement, and more farkles than the FZ6. The stock center stand is a huge plus. I also like the smaller amount of plastics as compared to a sport tour. I'd be doing my own basic maintenance (oil, chain, etc). Any thoughts on these?
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Apr 27, 2021 19:39
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Tiger 800's are largely terrible imo, questionable reliability combined with lackluster riding on and off road. The Yamaha is everything you're imagining, just get that. There is no reason to get a euro anything, let alone a Triumph, if you're just looking at objective stuff, and I can tell you firsthand the Yamaha rides a great deal better too.
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Apr 27, 2021 19:45
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I joined a couple Tiger groups on Facebook when I bought my 955i (this whole sentence speaks to how much I hate myself), and the 800 is the most talked about bike I see there. And it’s always about something going annoyingly wrong with it.
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Apr 27, 2021 22:15
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Looked up a couple long term review videos and yikes. Condensation building in the headlight assembly & indicators. Cam chain tensioner needing replacement. TFT display going out. Paint on switches rubbing off. All that and more within just six months of ownership. I did see some recalls for the fj-09, but I'd just have to make sure the bike has had that taken care of. Might spend a bit more and go with the tracer. Slim pickings out here right now.
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Apr 27, 2021 22:31
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I just put a deposit down on a black Rebel 1100. DCT + that engine + that weight + under $10k was just too compelling. Cheap to insure too. I have over 20k miles all over Colorado and New Mexico on a CTX700N DCT and it has just been crazy reliable, the only downside was lack of TC and power.
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Apr 28, 2021 13:51
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Very cool bike but very much too high of a price
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Apr 28, 2021 13:57
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:Very cool bike for someone else to own Agreed.
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Apr 28, 2021 15:44
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I want a DR like that one so badly. But gently caress paying $4000 for it.
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Apr 28, 2021 16:08
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:Very cool bike but very much too high of a price That's pretty consistent with the used pricing I found when looking for a dual sport recently. The secondhand market is hosed right now for everything except used office furniture.
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Apr 28, 2021 16:24
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Apr 28, 2021 16:37
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its all nice on rice posted:Looked up a couple long term review videos and yikes. Condensation building in the headlight assembly & indicators. Cam chain tensioner needing replacement. TFT display going out. Paint on switches rubbing off. All that and more within just six months of ownership. Apart from reliability, the Tiger engine is extremely boring (apparently less so for the latest models) while the FJ09 engine feels like an angry nest of bees.
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Apr 28, 2021 17:38
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Buddy just got one of those for like $300. He likes it because it's a DR, but gently caress kickstart only forever. I had misty eyed dreams of getting a kickstart bike for simplicity since I didn't mind the klr I had for a few days. Couldn't kick over the DR in a few tries and completely lost interest. 4k gets you a very nice second gen DR I don't know why that person priced it that way.
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Apr 28, 2021 17:45
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I’ve been considering trading my SV in for a DR650, but maybe I should just sell it for cash. Although that’s still the “really hot housing market problem” that even though I’d get more for the SV, every DR is also more.
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Apr 28, 2021 18:41
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The bike market here stinks. 4k will get you an mid 2000s R6 or F4i or something but if you want a DRZ or a road legal dirt machine get ready for prices approaching MSRP.
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Apr 28, 2021 19:26
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I was looking last night and people are asking 7k for used Ninja 400, 6.5k for R3, and even nearly 5k for Ninja 300  dealers must being doing crazy markups. Is this chip shortage fallout? I’m looking at the website for the dealer down the street and all their list prices are MSRP. Maybe that’s just to get you in the door.
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Apr 28, 2021 20:08
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Dealers are experiencing an uptick in sales but they're not really gouging as far as I've heard. It's the used market that's crazy because (for the most part) bikes are below "new" prices so people still think they're getting a deal because a dealer would be X more (even though you're getting a new unmolested bike with a warranty etc). And I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that it's not poor people who are taking up new expensive hobbies so anyone who could previously afford a side hobby is now flush with money because they're not commuting to work etc. Hell, I saved 10k in transit costs last year, that more than paid for my bike brand new.
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Apr 28, 2021 20:43
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Dealer price is MSRP + 3k worth of bullshit fees.
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Apr 28, 2021 20:45
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I just sold my 2018 450 EXC-F six days which had an MSRP of 11,699 but I bought new for 10k. I sold it for $8750. I had multiple offers between 8k and ask. I had some suspension work done and some aftermarket bling and put on brand new plastics so it looked shiny but... that's just insane. Used dirtbike prices are even worse than regular bikes. Folks are asking MSRP for year old two strokes.
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Apr 28, 2021 21:25
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On the plus side maybe the used market will be sweet as in a year or two
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If I had known I would have sold my Ninja 250 for $5000 I wouldn’t have given it to my friend for $200.
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Apr 28, 2021 21:46
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That DR650 price is bonkers for sure I just thought it was crazy there was a DR that old with only 500ish on it. That kickstart really scared the poo poo out of some owner(s).
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Apr 28, 2021 23:10
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Russian Bear posted:Dealer price is MSRP + 3k worth of bullshit fees. Last time I went to a dealer it was because I was looking for some peg springs. I put VFR passenger pegs on my Hawk because they are a nice fit but, being passenger pegs, they didn't have springs so I had to work something out. I figured hell, they're just simple torsion springs, surely any motorcycle shop has a bunch of them just sitting around in a bucket? "What kind of bike is it?" "Well it's the 88 Hawk GT out there but the pegs are from a VFR." "Okay so VFR peg springs" (looking on phone) "Yeah, but...they're passenger pegs so they don't have springs. I was hoping to just see if you had something about the right size that I could make fit." "...so you don't know which ones you need?" "You know, like I have a machine shop I can use to do the work on the pegs if I need to, I just want to get some springs that are vaguely the right size and shape. Like these (pointing at the used Ninja beside me)." "...so you want Ninja springs?" "Something like that. Do you have any generic ones that are just about that size? For any bike?" (still poking at phone) "Yeah man I can order you the Ninja springs but they only come with the pegs, it'll be uhhhh 40 dollars and they'll be here next week." "You haven't got any springs of any sort sitting in the parts department?" "I don't know, the service guy is out today, but you can call back on Monday" I can order springs myself on Amazon, thanks. What's the drat point of a physical store with a parts counter if they don't keep stuff in stock?
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I’m looking at the bill of sale for my N650 right now and the only fees I paid were title to register. Was literally MSRP + tax + registration. I guess this is out of the ordinary? Because that’s pretty much what I would have expected to pay and nothing more.
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Apr 28, 2021 23:31
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honestly i should just get some music wire and learn to make springs myself. it seems like a useful skill
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Shelvocke posted:On the plus side maybe the used market will be sweet as in a year or two I bought a bike this year though, how is that supposed to help me jk I’ll never stop buying bikes
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Martytoof posted:I’m looking at the bill of sale for my N650 right now and the only fees I paid were title to register. Was literally MSRP + tax + registration. I guess this is out of the ordinary? Because that’s pretty much what I would have expected to pay and nothing more. Sale price Freight Handling Tire tax ($2) License fee Dealer DOC Safe tire (should have called them out on this still no idea what the hell this is) Tax Not going to post the actual numbers because I know I'll probably rightly get made fun of 
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Even the manufacturer's websites tell you that there's a destination charge and that it can be arbitrarily higher than whatever they list it as
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Sagebrush posted:Dealer uuuuggghhh I think the problem isn't that they don't keep parts in stock, it's that the parts desk people are trained to look up x part for y year of z bike and asking them for "anything that looks like this" is making them step outside of their skillset. If you're lucky you'll get one you can give the exact mfr part number and they won't make you go through the whole song and dance LIKE loving CANADIAN TIRE, gently caress If you super luck out, and get the person that either gives a poo poo, or has been around long enough to develop some flexibility/have learned how to do parts desk before the modern ordering systems were put in place, you don't go anywhere else ever any more.
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Martytoof posted:The bike market here stinks. 4k will get you an mid 2000s R6 or F4i or something but if you want a DRZ or a road legal dirt machine get ready for prices approaching MSRP. Huh maybe I should sell my DR350SE when I get back in the states (no way, it's fun as gently caress)
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Martytoof posted:If I had known I would have sold my Ninja 250 for $5000 I wouldn’t have given it to my friend for $200. Ouch Sagebrush posted:honestly i should just get some music wire and learn to make springs myself. it seems like a useful skill If you're going to get to that point you may as well start 3D printing your own guns + mags
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Sagebrush posted:Last time I went to a dealer it was because I was looking for some peg springs. I put VFR passenger pegs on my Hawk because they are a nice fit but, being passenger pegs, they didn't have springs so I had to work something out. I figured hell, they're just simple torsion springs, surely any motorcycle shop has a bunch of them just sitting around in a bucket? Parts departments at a dealer don't usually have random poo poo just laying around, it isn't reasonable to expect them to just have random springs in stock. Who would order those, and why? The people there are office workers and 90% of their time is spent on stuff the mechanic can point to (and grunt) on a diagram, stuff on the reorder list, and insurance claims. Normally people lose the springs when they break pegs, so they often come with packaged with the replacement pegs. Not saying the guy there wasn't a dick though, they always are. What you're looking for is either a wrecker, which I don't see mentioned anywhere but would be a great place for this, or just wandering around back to the workshop and asking the mechanic to rummage through his bucket of springs he got by doing peg replacements, from all those times the peg breaks but the spring stays trapped. The guy on the phone could've cared more and asked a mechanic but hey.
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Slavvy posted:or just wandering around back to the workshop and asking the mechanic to rummage through his bucket of springs he got by doing peg replacements, from all those times the peg breaks but the spring stays trapped I was there in person and I figured it was obvious this is what I wanted by asking the guy if there were any springs sitting in back. The fact that the guy up front either was so disconnected from the back that he didn't know they would have random leftover parts sitting around, or that he didn't care enough to find out, is why dealers suck. The mechanic around the corner, who just works on bikes, fixed me up. That's my only point. Maybe the mechanic in the back understands the bikes but the guys in the front of the house apparently don't care if they're selling motorcycles or washing machines.
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