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oscarthewilde posted:As much as I’d like to play an actually playable Vicky, I don’t think PDS in 2021 are the right people to do it. Pretty much everything that made Vicky 2 interesting - the pop system and the economy, the feeling of being part of a larger whole instead of an abstracted agent among other abstracted agents that play by the exact same rules- is diametrically opposed to modern Paradox design. If they are actually making Vicky 3, which I highly doubt, it might be a good game but it won’t be Vicky Completely agree with this, as much as it saddens me to say.
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I mean I still play V2 regularly so I'd be fine with a whole new kind of game for Victoria 3 since I can always go back, but yeah if I was really wishing what'd I'd actually want is V2 remastered or even just updates/release an expansion for the existing game with more QoL.
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oscarthewilde posted:As much as I’d like to play an actually playable Vicky, I don’t think PDS in 2021 are the right people to do it. Pretty much everything that made Vicky 2 interesting - the pop system and the economy, the feeling of being part of a larger whole instead of an abstracted agent among other abstracted agents that play by the exact same rules- is diametrically opposed to modern Paradox design. If they are actually making Vicky 3, which I highly doubt, it might be a good game but it won’t be Vicky Have you played Imperator recently?
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Honestly a Bronze Age GSG would be Imperator with a smaller map and basically nothing that would make it relatable to the actual time period. I don't think the Paradox model would fit this time period at all. Now, something related to Tyranny? I would preorder that thing as soon as I could. Let me do a Scarlet Chorus world conquest Paradox,I beg of you.
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Apr 30, 2021 22:38
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i feel like anything that encourages people to identify with and grow attached to the factions in tyranny isnt in the spirit of the original
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Apr 30, 2021 22:42
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Normally I wouldn't really care about Paradox making a Victoria 3 but I'm turning around on it on the basis of I want people to shut up about wanting Paradox to make Victoria 3.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:EU3 peak: 1,299 players I know this post isn't meant to be taken entirely seriously, but I'd like to point out that EU3 and Victoria 2 were both released prior to the Steam-required days, back when a very significant percentage of the people playing their games bought them outside of Steam. That will skew the numbers and make them out to be smaller than they truly were. (though obviously Paradox's games are more popular than ever currently) edit: hell, eu3 wasn't on steam at all for its first two years. Dr. Video Games 0031 fucked around with this message at 22:52 on Apr 30, 2021 |
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Apr 30, 2021 22:48
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Victoria 4 when
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oscarthewilde posted:As much as I’d like to play an actually playable Vicky, I don’t think PDS in 2021 are the right people to do it. Pretty much everything that made Vicky 2 interesting - the pop system and the economy, the feeling of being part of a larger whole instead of an abstracted agent among other abstracted agents that play by the exact same rules- is diametrically opposed to modern Paradox design. If they are actually making Vicky 3, which I highly doubt, it might be a good game but it won’t be Vicky I want vicky 3 to be made so my mind can shut up about wanting to try it out, whether it turns out to be a pile of poo poo or gold. At least I'll have closure.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:EU3 peak: 1,299 players 
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Vicky 3 but you load the game and it's just a hi res pic of Johan doing the goatse pose, no ring.
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Apr 30, 2021 23:13
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No ring?! Don't you think that's going too far?
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:I know this post isn't meant to be taken entirely seriously, but I'd like to point out that EU3 and Victoria 2 were both released prior to the Steam-required days, back when a very significant percentage of the people playing their games bought them outside of Steam. That will skew the numbers and make them out to be smaller than they truly were. (though obviously Paradox's games are more popular than ever currently) ah the halcyon days of gamersgate
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Vicky 3 but you load the game and it's just a hi res pic of Johan doing the goatse pose, no ring. Where do I preorder ???
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Grevlek posted:Where do I preorder ??? Right here.
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I thought it was going to be goatse, but it was worse.
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Apr 30, 2021 23:50
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It's hard to imagine that paradox could improve on their greatest game, but I think Victoria 3 would be pretty good
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Well this is weird, I'm locked on 1.30.6 and loading any save game is crashing. Unlike yesterday, I noticed a popup for Leviathan on loading the main screen. e: disabling mods (only two font mods) worked. weird because the game shouldn't have updated... guidoanselmi fucked around with this message at 00:03 on May 1, 2021 |
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I never played vicky 2 but I want vicky 3 because the 19th century is one of the most interesting periods of human history because the industrial revolution is one of the most important things to happen to humanity since the dawn of agriculture and my inner marxist wants to play around in that time frame. Plus there are ton of very interesting narratives happening in a lot of countries in this time period from the US Civil war to the Meiji Restoration and even the Taipei Rebellion. Not to mention the global chess match of the Great Powers that ultimately culminates in them slipping on a banana peel so hard they start WW1 is too good of story to not participate in in a PDX game. I don't care if it conforms to some abstract idea of "Victoria" I just want my 19th century geopolitics/global economy simulator dammit.
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AnEdgelord posted:I never played vicky 2 but I want vicky 3 because the 19th century is one of the most interesting periods of human history because the industrial revolution is one of the most important things to happen to humanity since the dawn of agriculture and my inner marxist wants to play around in that time frame. Plus there are ton of very interesting narratives happening in a lot of countries in this time period from the US Civil war to the Meiji Restoration and even the Taipei Rebellion. Not to mention the global chess match of the Great Powers that ultimately culminates in them slipping on a banana peel so hard they start WW1 is too good of story to not participate in in a PDX game. I don't care if it conforms to some abstract idea of "Victoria" I just want my 19th century geopolitics/global economy simulator dammit. You should play Victoria 2
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May 1, 2021 00:20
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Don't play communist though, It's a miserable experience
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:My bet would be on Forgotten Realms Kings (not that I want it) I wonder how they'd actually do that given that monarchy is pretty much the exception in FR rather than the rule, Faerun's pretty much wall-to-wall republics when you actually run through it. Lots of little local lords, but mostly ruling councils at the top.
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Gaius Marius posted:Don't play communist though, It's a miserable experience it is the most power ideology if you can stand the micro tho. "why yes all of my factories will chain mwhahahahahaha"
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Raskolnikov38 posted:it is the most power ideology if you can stand the micro tho. "why yes all of my factories will chain mwhahahahahaha" Yeah the choice of ideology in Vicky 2 generally comes down to how optimal you want your factories to be vs. how much micro you have the patience for. Although the options on the free market side probably wouldn't be so bad if the capitalist AI wasn't so terrible at keeping its factories open. As mentioned earlier though, playing Vicky "optimally" does end up making the game less interesting anyway. Go full Laissez-Faire chaos mode.
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State capitalism is ideal for the first leg of the game. Really the only thing holding communism back is by the time it comes around you probably already have too much poo poo to manage (just having an "expand all factories" button on the production screen would help a lot) and there isn't a reason to play tall in Vicky. The worst option is trying to make do with interventionism, though. Early game democracies are rough because you can't just hit a button to change parties and start building / deleting / subsudizing factories when you hit good literacy levels.
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Reveilled posted:I wonder how they'd actually do that given that monarchy is pretty much the exception in FR rather than the rule, Faerun's pretty much wall-to-wall republics when you actually run through it. Lots of little local lords, but mostly ruling councils at the top.
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Randallteal posted:(just having an "expand all factories" button on the production screen would help a lot) This exists, it's a shift+click or ctrl+click (I forget which but the mouseover tooltip will tell you) on any factory expansion button. One of those will do only factories which are close to their worker capacity, the other does every factory.
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I am not sure why you keep beating the vicky 3 drum when imperator and stellaris shows off what it would remotely be like, pop-wise it bad
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Laissez Faire is pretty nice once you get into a dominant position in the game. It's not optimal, but once you control a fourth of the population you don't need to be
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Gamerofthegame posted:I am not sure why you keep beating the vicky 3 drum when imperator and stellaris shows off what it would remotely be like, pop-wise Imperator ain't bad now but I guess it's dead now
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Gamerofthegame posted:I am not sure why you keep beating the vicky 3 drum when imperator and stellaris shows off what it would remotely be like, pop-wise I unironically love both of those games.
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Gamerofthegame posted:I am not sure why you keep beating the vicky 3 drum when imperator and stellaris shows off what it would remotely be like, pop-wise Stellaris is what happens when you just make Vic2's state communism the default option. It's fascinating but an acquired taste at least.
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The Cheshire Cat posted:This exists, it's a shift+click or ctrl+click (I forget which but the mouseover tooltip will tell you) on any factory expansion button. One of those will do only factories which are close to their worker capacity, the other does every factory. Oh my god, I knew about shift click to expand all railroads in a state, but not this. That's huge for commie China.
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really i'd take a steam achievement compatible re-release of vicky2 and a manual that has all the shortcut keys laid out
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Raskolnikov38 posted:ah the halcyon days of gamersgate That name really became the eiptome of not ageing well huh.
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I can't wait for the incredible choices after spending $300 on Vicky 3, the 4 major expansions, and the 7 add-on packs: Colonize the Ivory Coast = 50 mana Support Greek rebels = 50 mana Appease communist agitators = 50 mana Build factroy = 50 mana
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Gonna fuckin wait to push sliders like G-d intended
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ANOTHER SCORCHER posted:I can't wait for the incredible choices after spending $300 on Vicky 3, the 4 major expansions, and the 7 add-on packs: extremely dystopian that actions in a game might cost a different set of points than money, which totally isn't also an arbitrary point accumulation system in most strategy games.
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Alchenar posted:And the disaster that is shaping up to be Vampire 2. I haven't heard anything about it since it was announced and it seemed really cool? What's happened since then?
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