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Failing that one Empathy check with Sylvie should've had Empathy stuttering and sputtering in a daze until Endurance and/or Electro-Chemistry loudly speaks up and announce she's a spinster so you should warn Garte about the cock carousel through Endurance and/or Electro-Chemistry instead of Empathy immediately engaging incel mode
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Leon Sumbitches posted:Does this question not hold a mirror up to our own world quite well?
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Grouchio posted:No we can fix it and climate change is restricted to our home planet. Give it time for now; we're speeding up reductions lmao
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Time? Well not to worry. We have plenty of that!
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christmas boots posted:Also the Pale isn’t the end. After the Pale comes the world again I always thought that referred to the new isolas discovered under Dolores. After the old world, you come to the pale; after the pale, you come to the new world - the world again.
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e-dt posted:I always thought that referred to the new isolas discovered under Dolores. After the old world, you come to the pale; after the pale, you come to the new world - the world again. I also interpreted it this way, but who knows? With how hopeful this game is, I certainly find it hard to believe it's all doomed to vanish...
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christmas boots posted:Time? Well not to worry. We have plenty of that! quote:I know my words won't reach you goons, but i'll say 'em anyway:
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That's a hilariously dumb quote. It manages to contradict itself in the first three sentences. Impressive! Anyway, even ignoring climate change, the end is the same no matter what. All we can do is put it off as long possible, but its coming. So whats the point of doing anything? You do what you can for those you can while its still possible. Doesn't matter when the end is coming, that stays the same.
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The thing about the pale overtaking the world is that though it seems inevitable, it isn't, really. The night club can hold back the entryway in the church. The situation is that the pale will swallow everything, unless... unless what? It isn't clear, although given some of the implications in the game, it may very well be human solidarity and renewal that pushes it back. Harry's reaction to learning of the pale and it's expansion can be to proclaim that only his ideology being completely and immediately adopted can save the world. He may actually be right about this, although incidentally this makes the moralintern, the bearers of the status quo, the greatest enemies of humankind. The kingdom of conscience, as the thought tells you, is already here and it has failed to unify humanity. Not that the super-individualist ultraliberalism and the reactionary, insular fascism have any hopes there either. As the game says, communism may be impossible, but it's still worth building. Also some maybe-info on the book, big spoilers if true: One of the things I've found out about the book by the way, although I'm not sure 100% of it's veracity, is that it takes place 20 years after DE and does end with Revachol getting nuked and the pale eating everything. But it's fairly clear that this is not an inevitable outcome: for one thing, the city tells Harry that the bomb can be stopped by him. NewMars fucked around with this message at 02:08 on May 2, 2021 |
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NewMars posted:The thing about the pale overtaking the world is that though it seems inevitable, it isn't, really. The night club can hold back the entryway in the church. The situation is that the pale will swallow everything, unless... unless what? It isn't clear, although given some of the implications in the game, it may very well be human solidarity and renewal that pushes it back. Harry's reaction to learning of the pale and it's expansion can be to proclaim that only his ideology being completely and immediately adopted can save the world. He may actually be right about this, although incidentally this makes the moralintern, the bearers of the status quo, the greatest enemies of humankind. The kingdom of conscience, as the thought tells you, is already here and it has failed to unify humanity. Not that the super-individualist ultraliberalism and the reactionary, insular fascism have any hopes there either. As the game says, communism may be impossible, but it's still worth building. This is a good post but that last paragraph should be its own separate spoiler, I don't want to know details about the book! pablo gbscobar fucked around with this message at 02:15 on May 2, 2021 |
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pablo gbscobar posted:This is a good post but that last paragraph should be its own separate spoiler, I don't want to know details about the book! Edited the post, sorry.
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Grouchio posted:Even before Covid hit, the global emissions rate of increase (between 2016-2019) slowed down 20% Following this pattern, in 20 years we will be pouring more carbon into the atmosphere than we are today. Which is around the time when we need to be having net carbon outputs of 0.
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damnit I pumped Electrochemistry on my first run but Kim's making me want to stay sober **shivers is great! Cheston fucked around with this message at 03:15 on May 2, 2021 |
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God drat, Cuno in the final denouement is absolute gold, it is criminal that you need to get Kim shot in order to have him around.
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Sininu posted:Oh! What is up with the fast travel? It sucks to use because you have to run to the specific locations you are allowed to use, but then suddenly it stopped working altogether?? Why is the fast travel like this? Its draining to run across the entire map so many times. E: okay, found out it's a common bug that happens on day 4. Sininu fucked around with this message at 06:12 on May 2, 2021 |
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I remember when there was no fast travel. You kids don’t know how easy you have it
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If I had to pick 3 skills to dump, they'd be electrochemistry, half-light, and suggestion. You just don't get much out of them.
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Half-Light lets you intimidate the racist lorry driver into helping you with the case, and Suggestion has plenty of great moments!
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christmas boots posted:I remember when there was no fast travel. You kids don’t know how easy you have it As for the pale stuff and so on: It seems an equally valid literary reading would be that Harry is going to die in about 28 years and that this will be the end of the world, because the world of Disco Elysium and such is only presented to us through Harry. And of course, for Harry it would be the end for certain. However I did not do more than dabble in the apocalypse cop business so there may be more material on this topic. Still, literature and all that, it doesn't need to have a decisive answer.
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What does the extra Kim empathy from Aces Low do?
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Fedule posted:God drat, Cuno in the final denouement is absolute gold, it is criminal that you need to get Kim shot in order to have him around. I've just got to this part but to do so I had to actively ignore a 78% check and choose to let Kim get shot and now I feel like a complete dirtbag  . Still, I'm really excited to see how the endgame plays out this time round, my current Harry is much more in touch with his gym teacher side than in my first playthrough and I'm excited to see that dynamic play out more in the final stretch!
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Fedule posted:I definitely overoptimised my Hardcore Mode build. About to finish up and I've got like 300 real in pocket. Wompty Dompty Dom Center is OP as gently caress. I didn't even fine Gary. Try HAAAÀARRRRRDCOOOOOOORRRREEE with 1/1/5/5, I'm locked out of the rhetoric check with Titus, suggestion checks with Cuno to get the dad story and the blind woman to sign everart's papers, and my logic is too low to find loopholes even with the clothing boosts so it might just be board game time to grind out some xp. I am Revachol's most loser cop. I've also converted Egghead into an ultraliberal after mashing his tree the wrong way. Whoops!
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Doccykins posted:I've also converted Egghead into an ultraliberal after mashing his tree the wrong way. Whoops! EAT ZE POOR! HARDER CORE! YEAAAH!
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Grouchio posted:What does the extra Kim empathy from Aces Low do? I think it just gets thrown in the pile of points you can get for doing things Kim likes that determine how he acts at the end and if you can keep him from getting shot. There is an achievement for maximum Kim friendship but it's either bugged or insanely hard to get because I got all the good Kim outcomes at the end and still didn't get it. At one point the game even said Kim REALLY trusts you in a skill check and I still didn't get the best friends cheevo. 
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That achievement is judged entirely by your good/bad cop meter. Being nice to Kim or just acting professional/not a dick to other people will get you +1, along with figuring out parts of the case like finding the bullet early gives you +2 while picking crazy/rear end in a top hat options like punching Measurehead or talking down to Leo, accepting bribes etc gets you -1 points. You need +10 to be Kim's best friend.
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wiegieman posted:If I had to pick 3 skills to dump, they'd be electrochemistry, half-light, and suggestion. You just don't get much out of them. Check my post history ITT to learn how wrong you are about half-light and also electrochemistry
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I completed the game! The end was really something else at points. But what the gently caress... Did we really just leave the old man -- our main suspect who confessed, behind on the island???? I can't wrap my head around this part. Also, what does honor mean/do? sean10mm posted:There is an achievement for maximum Kim friendship but it's either bugged or insanely hard to get because I got all the good Kim outcomes at the end and still didn't get it. At one point the game even said Kim REALLY trusts you in a skill check and I still didn't get the best friends cheevo. I think I got that on the first day?? Which came to me as a big surprise as we had barely met at that point. Sininu fucked around with this message at 16:04 on May 2, 2021 |
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Sininu posted:I completed the game! The end was really something else at points. But what the gently caress... Did we really just leave the old man -- our main suspect who confessed, behind on the island???? I can't wrap my head around this part. Your boat was too small and he's a frail old man who had just gone catatonic, with a ammo-less gun you took off him. So you went to call for backup and help. Specifics might be argued in circles, but drama and cartharsis also push for a certain kind of situation.
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Tylana posted:Your boat was too small and he's a frail old man who had just gone catatonic, with a ammo-less gun you took off him. So you went to call for backup and help. Specifics might be argued in circles, but drama and cartharsis also push for a certain kind of situation. Yeah, it could be summed up well as he's not going anywhere, and can't hurt anyone anymore. I can never bring myself to get rid of The Expression just because Annette likes it. There's worse things to have your face stuck like.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Yeah, it could be summed up well as he's not going anywhere, and can't hurt anyone anymore. If you finish the fascism quest you get a new expression/portrait, and Kim says you look like had a stroke: 
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UnknownMercenary posted:That achievement is judged entirely by your good/bad cop meter. Being nice to Kim or just acting professional/not a dick to other people will get you +1, along with figuring out parts of the case like finding the bullet early gives you +2 while picking crazy/rear end in a top hat options like punching Measurehead or talking down to Leo, accepting bribes etc gets you -1 points. That's the thing, my last run was Ultra Nice and Professional and I never pissed Kim off and figured everything out early. 
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Grouchio posted:No we can fix it and climate change is restricted to our home planet. Give it time for now; we're speeding up reductions I'm sorry to tell you this but it looks like you're an actual real-life moralist
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I'm playing through a second time and I'm trying to do the fascist vision quest. Problem is, I feel like I'm stuck. I'm at the point where I'm asking all the local fascists about time travel. Gary, René, Lorry Driver, Measurehead. All nacht. I've managed to get René's story out of him, succeeded all checks and even got his medal. Gary is gone, Lorry Driver is exhausted of options, and Measurehead is just telling me to get a grasp of basic reality before coming back. Does this have something to do with Joyce's dialogue options? Day 4 so if it's René I'm basically at the end of the trail.
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Seems like getting stuck on the fascist vision quest is a common problem. Rather fitting, I'd say! (I can't help, as I am unable to bring myself to roleplay as a fascist)
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Kalsco posted:I'm playing through a second time and I'm trying to do the fascist vision quest. Problem is, I feel like I'm stuck. If you have an option to do a suggestion skill check with Measurehead, it reopens with +2 modifiers for each individual fascist/racist character you talk to stacking the odds in your favor over multiple attempts, making you likely you'll eventually get it. Probably. Otherwise I got nothing, maybe try lifting some weights or keeping his race theory thought internalized 
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Also on a read up of Kirby lore I feel like the detective would fit into Smash Bros enough at least in that he'd definitely get along with Kirby and take the lore revelations of the series in stride.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Also on a read up of Kirby lore I feel like the detective would fit into Smash Bros enough at least in that he'd definitely get along with Kirby and take the lore revelations of the series in stride. Cuno..................PUNCH! 
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Grouchio posted:No we can fix it and climate change is restricted to our home planet. Give it time for now; we're speeding up reductions lmfao Grouchio posted:*sigh* super lmfao level 2
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We're restricted to our home planet, too. The only reason billionaires dream of living among the stars is so that they can reinstate slavery and legalise pedophilia, and the only reason people are hyping up space colonisation is because those billionaires pay them to do so. Zero gravity kills us, every other planet in existence- Mars included- kills us, terraforming other planets is a nonstarter if we can't even terraform Earth, and a 20% reduction in the rate of increase is not an actual reduction, it is a slowing of the rate at which the source of the problem is growing and the problem accumulates from all sources year by year. Those same billionaires? They're not building rockets, they're building bunkers in New Zealand to survive the revolution. Some of them even activated the loving things when Covid started up. They overestimated us.
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