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I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006


This is truly revolting. God drat.

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Murgos
Oct 21, 2010

I'd say we need to get these incoherent assholes out of politics but Ted Cruz and Josh Hawley are immaculately educated and objectively the worst people so, eh.

Bishyaler
Dec 30, 2009
Megamarm

Kalit posted:

The person Tibalt is replying too literally said that the ACA being passed will be used in justification to not pass a single payer healthcare system. I would say it's not a misinterpretation to take that as insinuation that it this makes it harder to pass a single payer healthcare system: (emphasis mine)

Do I need to provide you with direct quotes from Biden saying that he opposes Medicare for All because it would involve retiring the ACA?

This Is the Zodiac
Feb 4, 2003

Youth Decay posted:

Amanda describes herself as "Trump in heels"
Trump is already Trump in heels :haw:

Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010
College Slice

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

This is truly revolting. God drat.

Why is it revolting? Its kind of a stupid ad, I guess, but the CIA has, for a long time, been overrepresented by upper middle class white male academics. Reaching outside that circle leads to a more diverse set of backgrounds, which leads to a deeper talent pool and greater diversity of views, which has to be good for the agency.

Devor
Nov 30, 2004
Lurking more.

Epicurius posted:

Why is it revolting? Its kind of a stupid ad, I guess, but the CIA has, for a long time, been overrepresented by upper middle class white male academics. Reaching outside that circle leads to a more diverse set of backgrounds, which leads to a deeper talent pool and greater diversity of views, which has to be good for the agency.

Conservatives: Let's finish the job we started in South America

Liberals: HIRE 👏 MORE 👏 WOMEN 👏 INTELLIGENCE 👏 ANALYSTS

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Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.
Someone tried to drive through the main pedestrian entrance, they're being negotiated with, no shots have been fired (yet). Note all federal buildings and areas in downtown DC have quite rigorous anti-vehicle attack construction since 9/11. The deaths a few weeks ago occurred at the boundary of one of the hardened areas.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Epicurius posted:

Why is it revolting? Its kind of a stupid ad, I guess, but the CIA has, for a long time, been overrepresented by upper middle class white male academics. Reaching outside that circle leads to a more diverse set of backgrounds, which leads to a deeper talent pool and greater diversity of views, which has to be good for the agency.

The CIA is a force for evil in the world. Mobilizing diversity to deepen the pool of recruits for training death squads to kill indigenous people is more vile to me than them limiting themselves to whitebread climbers who already want to sow chaos and kill democracy worldwide, I guess. It's about the rhetoric and the organization.

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

Discendo Vox posted:

Someone tried to drive through the main pedestrian entrance, they're being negotiated with, no shots have been fired (yet). Note all federal buildings and areas in downtown DC have quite rigorous anti-vehicle attack construction since 9/11. The deaths a few weeks ago occurred at the boundary of one of the hardened areas.

So we at least know it's a white person that tried to do this

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Are they negotiating a job offer?

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ReidRansom
Oct 25, 2004


Owlspiracy posted:

yes, in 2018 corey stewart (a trump wannabe) won the republican primary for the senate and most of the party leadership resigned in protest and they've never really recovered organizationally since then (and, in fact have gotten worse). losing essentially all of their experience and sane leadership has rapidly accelerated a change started by general demographic and political shifts - and is a big part why warner won by 13% when 6 years earlier he barely eke'd out a win. moderate republicans in va are a dying breed: their districts are shifting around them so they've tried to move to the middle (including crossing aisles to vote for things like medicaid expansion and criminal justice reform), then lose primaries to insane nutjobs (particularly when the primaries are specifically designed to help the nutjob candidates) who then lose in a general election. in state level politics having experience leadership - experience in the sense of 'knowing how to raise money and run a campaign' is extremely important, and 2016-2018 was a massive brain drain which killed any chance for the republicans to really... ever come back.

if you look at the state level results they show much bigger losses than the overall partisan shift of the state.

It's really too bad that the parties (to whatever degree the less insane arm of the GOP even has any control anymore) don't try to embrace some sort of ranked choice system for primaries. I can't help but think it would move everything on both sides just slightly more left and lock out the most rabid of the kooks.

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

Bishyaler posted:

Do I need to provide you with direct quotes from Biden saying that he opposes Medicare for All because it would involve retiring the ACA?

i think in general it would be better to just post the direct quotes than this "ask me to post the direct quotes! ask me!" intermediate post

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Pontius Pilate posted:

What’s the thread title referencing? My first thought was a trump tweet and I know it’s not possible but ugh those five years poisoned my brain

No this is today's Trump "tweet"

https://twitter.com/PatrickSvitek/status/1389296680022036484

https://twitter.com/BillGates/status/1389316412259270657

Hearing that orders for 3 million pesticide mosquito nets have been cancelled in favor an order for 3,500 Corvettes

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



zoux posted:

No this is today's Trump "tweet"

https://twitter.com/PatrickSvitek/status/1389296680022036484

https://twitter.com/BillGates/status/1389316412259270657

Hearing that orders for 3 million pesticide mosquito nets have been cancelled in favor an order for 3,500 Corvettes

I'm going to assume TX 06 is an extremely red district regardless of Former Fearless Leader's idiocy?

Cru Jones
Mar 28, 2007

Cowering behind a shield of hope and Obamanium

zoux posted:

No this is today's Trump "tweet"

https://twitter.com/PatrickSvitek/status/1389296680022036484

https://twitter.com/BillGates/status/1389316412259270657

Hearing that orders for 3 million pesticide mosquito nets have been cancelled in favor an order for 3,500 Corvettes

I just assume he now has enough nano-chipped vaccine mind control hotties so better get single and ready to mingle.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

TulliusCicero posted:

I'm going to assume TX 06 is an extremely red district regardless of Former Fearless Leader's idiocy?

Yeah, it's also not subject to a jungle primary outside of emergency special elections when the incumbent dies of COVID. Also the total vote leader who got the Trump endorsement is the dead congressman's wife.


https://twitter.com/Rowaida_Abdel/status/1389323686654644229

There you go folks

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

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TulliusCicero posted:

I'm going to assume TX 06 is an extremely red district regardless of Former Fearless Leader's idiocy?

It's R+9. Very Republican, but not a completely unwinnable seat.

The reason the Democrat got shut out was mostly because of the huge amount of vote splitting. The person who came in 1st got 19% of the vote and the person in 2nd place got 13%.

There were 23 candidates.

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

It's R+9. Very Republican, but not a completely unwinnable seat.

The reason the Democrat got shut out was mostly because of the huge amount of vote splitting. The person who came in 1st got 19% of the vote and the person in 2nd place got 13%.

There were 23 candidates.
Wasserman was suggesting that the Democrats took a pass on investing in the race because the district was going to be redrawn before the 2022 election so if a Dem won the seat it wouldn't effect the balance in the House and they'd just get redistricted into oblivion anyway, so why expend effort and resources?

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/intruder-stopped-armed-guards-driving-through-cia-main-entrance-n1266169

Correction, tried to drive through the vehicle entrance without authorization.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

It's R+9. Very Republican, but not a completely unwinnable seat.

The reason the Democrat got shut out was mostly because of the huge amount of vote splitting. The person who came in 1st got 19% of the vote and the person in 2nd place got 13%.

There were 23 candidates.

No it was because Trump, didn't you read the statement.

Yestermoment
Jul 27, 2007

I wonder how Bill and Linda will divvy up all the foreskins they've collected in the divorce. My money is on Bill giving up everything for them.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Yestermoment posted:

I wonder how Bill and Linda will divvy up all the foreskins they've collected in the divorce. My money is on Bill giving up everything for them.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

so what happened with that. i know they are all basically worthless now.

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


Dapper_Swindler posted:

so what happened with that. i know they are all basically worthless now.
I think the best part was it was over 5k

Presto
Nov 22, 2002

Keep calm and Harry on.

Youth Decay posted:

I thought they had gotten rid of the primary altogether to try and avoid that situation?
The last time the VA GOP held a nominating convention they emerged with Ken Cuccinelli, who went on to lose to T-Mac.

Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010
College Slice

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

The CIA is a force for evil in the world. Mobilizing diversity to deepen the pool of recruits for training death squads to kill indigenous people is more vile to me than them limiting themselves to whitebread climbers who already want to sow chaos and kill democracy worldwide, I guess. It's about the rhetoric and the organization.

There's no question the CIA has done stuff like that, sure, and there's no doubt that, say, training death squads is bad. But mostly what the CIA does is gather information about other countries, and then uses that information to analyze and predict other countries' actions and reactions. That's its primary purpose and what it spends most of its time doing, and I don't think that's a bad thing.

DeathSandwich
Apr 24, 2008

I fucking hate puzzles.

Yestermoment posted:

I wonder how Bill and Linda will divvy up all the foreskins they've collected in the divorce. My money is on Bill giving up everything for them.

Can someone point me to where the Bill Gates foreskin stuff started? I've seen people joke about it all over the place and I've never really picked up on the context for it.

James Garfield
May 5, 2012
Am I a manipulative abuser in real life, or do I just roleplay one on the Internet for fun? You decide!

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

The CIA is a force for evil in the world. Mobilizing diversity to deepen the pool of recruits for training death squads to kill indigenous people is more vile to me than them limiting themselves to whitebread climbers who already want to sow chaos and kill democracy worldwide, I guess. It's about the rhetoric and the organization.

If you accept everything in your post as fact, I don't think you can ignore the possibility that the CIA is bad because it's full of upper class white men from ivy league schools, and recruiting more diverse staff would make it less inclined to just training death squads everywhere.

Blindeye
Sep 22, 2006

I can't believe I kissed you!

DeathSandwich posted:

Can someone point me to where the Bill Gates foreskin stuff started? I've seen people joke about it all over the place and I've never really picked up on the context for it.

Isn't it a fetal stem cell research thing?

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


FizFashizzle posted:



The real question is did they use two cameras for a shot of Mark eating plain toast, or did they do two takes.

and it's still a jump cut because they can't actually show the moment of his mouth unhinging and his inner, smaller jaws extending and biting off a piece of bread

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


James Garfield posted:

If you accept everything in your post as fact, I don't think you can ignore the possibility that the CIA is bad because it's full of upper class white men from ivy league schools, and recruiting more diverse staff would make it less inclined to just training death squads everywhere.

Except a big part of its purpose is to train death squads and overthrow democratically elected governments. As long as the interests of the US are to do those things the CIA will continue to act accordingly.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Here’s another reason right wing policy people didn’t give a gently caress about covid


https://twitter.com/conorsen/status/1389331680712962058?s=21

Smallest year-to-year gain in more than a decade

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Epicurius posted:

There's no question the CIA has done stuff like that, sure, and there's no doubt that, say, training death squads is bad. But mostly what the CIA does is gather information about other countries, and then uses that information to analyze and predict other countries' actions and reactions. That's its primary purpose and what it spends most of its time doing, and I don't think that's a bad thing.

What purpose does the US have in mind for the information that the CIA collects? What does the United States do with that information, would you say?

I would also challenge your claim that it's reasonable to minimize the role of the CIA in killing people and toppling governments because such activities do not make up a statistical majority of total CIA operations at any given point in time. If I knowingly work for a company that does those things, I am complicit in them even if I don't do them myself.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


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Antifa Turkeesian posted:

What purpose does the US have in mind for the information that the CIA collects? What does the United States do with that information, would you say?

The world fact book and almanac the CIA puts out is really good.

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!

James Garfield posted:

If you accept everything in your post as fact, I don't think you can ignore the possibility that the CIA is bad because it's full of upper class white men from ivy league schools, and recruiting more diverse staff would make it less inclined to just training death squads everywhere.

Why would changing the individuals in positions of power change an outcome that is borne out of the systemic needs of capitalism? In particular, a capitalist system with the US on top.

Gumball Gumption
Jan 7, 2012

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

The world fact book and almanac the CIA puts out is really good.

And Manson wrote some songs. No one calls him Charles Manson, musician. The same way no one says The CIA, the factbook publishers.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

The CIA as a supplement to Broderbund educational software is a function I can get behind.

EDIT: the CIA hosts a .pdf of Killing Hope on their website. Huh.

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

The CIA as a supplement to Broderbund educational software is a function I can get behind.

EDIT: the CIA hosts a .pdf of Killing Hope on their website. Huh.

Is that like, making your pinned tweet somebody laying down a really good own on bv you?

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


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Antifa Turkeesian posted:

The CIA as a supplement to Broderbund educational software is a function I can get behind.

EDIT: the CIA hosts a .pdf of Killing Hope on their website. Huh.

The Library of Congress also hosts a free copy of "A People's History of the United States" and copies of "historically or culturally significant" pornography. They don't let you publicly view the porno list, though.

Edit: If you go there in person, they will let you browse the porno list.

Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 23:41 on May 3, 2021

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I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Agents are GO! posted:

Is that like, making your pinned tweet somebody laying down a really good own on bv you?

It is apparently part of a free library of everything found in Bin Laden's cave when he was killed. It looks like they did not include his porn folder.

https://www.cia.gov/library/abbottabad-compound/index.html

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