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The FT says that Labour's hosed: https://www.ft.com/content/fb5a47fa-ee9f-40ce-81fe-e274e314a84c The Financial Times posted:
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quote:Speaking on Tuesday morning, Starmer said he would “take full responsibility” for the results later this week.
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May 4, 2021 10:56
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TACD posted:Hope somebody has saved the audio of this for memeworthy remixes of Friday’s inevitable complete abdication of responsibility Setting himself up for a redo of Gordon Brown's "I take full responsibility for what happened, which is why the people responsible left immediately..." moment, perhaps?
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May 4, 2021 10:59
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It bugs me that the media has decided the vaccine bounce exists when I'm not sure there's any reason to believe that's what's going on. It seems to more be media pr for the tories. I think Boris is just popular sadly
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May 4, 2021 11:06
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Pistol_Pete posted:The FT says that Labour's hosed: Top comment Some simple observations. Starmer would be able to project a stronger picture to voters if he did not have to spend so much time fighting attacks from the prominent left wing figures in his parties and their major Trades Union sponsors. The electorate have resoundingly rejected the two campaigns with far left programmes since the war i.e. those of Michael Foot and Jeremy Corbyn. Labour have been elected with social democratic programmes. If the far left could accept that a social democratic programme in government was better than the current Tory programme, Starmer could concentrate on leading an effective opposition.
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May 4, 2021 11:06
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Starmer cannot fail, he can only be failed.
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May 4, 2021 11:10
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The Perfect Element posted:Thanks for the input everyone. Sounds like just getting a cheapish hybrid from halfords would be the best and easiest option, and possibly pay a bit extra for a luxury fluffy saddle... Bigger and softer saddles aren't necessarily more comfortable, and may well be worse for saddle sores than something smaller and harder. Depends a lot on how you sit on the bike.
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May 4, 2021 11:15
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I want a left wing government, not a poo poo neoliberal excuse for a party that will do nothing useful and fall on its arse making the next election after they win go even more rightward. Accelerationism is bad, I know but I genuinely don't see any way to swing the pendulum left by bowing down to Starmer's lot so why do it? Burn labour to the ground and rebuild it after everyone wanting cushy careers in sensible opposition is set afloat on an iceberg.
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May 4, 2021 11:22
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Bigger and softer saddles aren't necessarily more comfortable, and may well be worse for saddle sores than something smaller and harder. Depends a lot on how you sit on the bike. Dunno if these are still good as Charge bikes are no more and the branding got bought over by other companies but these were the absolute poo poo when they first came out. https://www.tredz.co.uk/.Charge-Spoon-Cromo-Saddle_65215.htm
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May 4, 2021 11:24
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keep punching joe posted:Dunno if these are still good as Charge bikes are no more and the branding got bought over by other companies but these were the absolute poo poo when they first came out. drat, I need a new saddle soon and this looks excellent. Reasonably priced too.
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May 4, 2021 11:46
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keep punching joe posted:Dunno if these are still good as Charge bikes are no more and the branding got bought over by other companies but these were the absolute poo poo when they first came out. Oh that's a shame, I love my Charge bike. Those saddles are indeed pretty great, I'd recommend them to anyone. My dad was all about the soft and fluffy saddles and changing to this one made a huge difference for him
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May 4, 2021 11:51
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Posting this with the caveat that I know it's "Terrible person links to terrible article about terrible people" https://twitter.com/darrengrimes_/status/1388912978301440004?s=19 But loving hell that's dire
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May 4, 2021 11:53
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Not really, I've thought of a great way that could sustain itself without any nonconsentual suffering.
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May 4, 2021 11:59
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Failed Imagineer posted:Posting this with the caveat that I know it's "Terrible person links to terrible article about terrible people" *Heavy breathing through lungs full of meat* 'Ate vegan food. Luv premature meat induced death. Simple as.
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May 4, 2021 12:02
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I was catching up with the Milhist thread and someone mentioned in passing that the BBC took a strategic decision in 1942 to change from censored reporting to reporting the war news factually including Allied defeats, because it was believed that the war was overall going the right way so it was safe, and this would build credibility in an ocean of propaganda. It succeeded so wildly that as late as the 1960s the BBC remained more trusted in most European countries’ than their home broadcasters. That’s wild. It’s really depressing to compare BBC news today to BBC news then.
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May 4, 2021 12:04
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The Daily Mail changed to reporting the war factually in 1939, when the Home Office said they couldn't support Hitler openly anymore so they changed to 'morally neutral' reporting. Not sure that brought them much trust after the way though.
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May 4, 2021 12:06
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Failed Imagineer posted:Posting this with the caveat that I know it's "Terrible person links to terrible article about terrible people" 10 years without Chorizo... I dunno I plan to give up meat on my death bed and cash in those final 10 years. I guess I can still eat crisps and biscuits
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May 4, 2021 12:15
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Broccoli is basically the best loving thing though. It tastes great and is good for you. I love a good steak but yeah, it's a rare thing (har har) Now steak and broccoli combined? Hell yes.
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May 4, 2021 12:19
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Mebh posted:Broccoli is basically the best loving thing though. It tastes great and is good for you. I endorse this post. I hope you roast your broccoli.
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May 4, 2021 12:23
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I just started cooking up the broccoli stalk after decades of throwing it away. It doesn't taste delish like the florets, just kinda plain, but if you peel it and slice it thin it becomes a great flavour vehicle for soy sauce or satay or whatever
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May 4, 2021 12:24
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I don't like roasted broccoili. Steamed with lots of butter, salt and black pepper please.
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Failed Imagineer posted:Posting this with the caveat that I know it's "Terrible person links to terrible article about terrible people" I would really like to see the actual survey for this, exactly what question did they ask? As presented, it bakes in several assumptions; firstly, it suggests that dying 10 years earlier is a certainty, which is isn't, and it implies that the health risk of consuming any meat is identical; even if on average meat eaters lived 10 years less than vegetarians, the reduction in lifespan for the man who eats a t-bone steak a day and the man who eats grilled chicken breast twice a week will not be equal. Consequently, as presented it feels a lot more like a hypothetical question that isn't actually a reliable measure of sentiment. People are really bad at assessing how they would act in hypothetical situations, especially ones which carry a risk of death (witness the third of adults who say they'd take a one-way trip to Mars, effectively saying they'd die for a unique experience and their name in Wikipedia). Additionally, unless there was an option like "I don't believe my meat consumption will actually cause me to die 10 years early", I'd wager as many people mean that when answering "no" as do people saying "Yeah I'm totally cool with dying sooner".
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May 4, 2021 12:26
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Guavanaut posted:It's impressive compared even to the last time I checked: https://grid.iamkate.com/
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May 4, 2021 12:27
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I absolutely hate broccoli, and cauliflower. All brassicas so probably the same genetic thing that makes me loathe sprouts. Root vegetables are definitely my thing, carrots, parsnips, beetroot are all aces.
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May 4, 2021 12:27
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Noxville posted:I absolutely hate broccoli, and cauliflower. All brassicas so probably the same genetic thing that makes me loathe sprouts. Root vegetables are definitely my thing, carrots, parsnips, beetroot are all aces. I loathe cauliflower and sprouts, but broccoli is OK for me. I'm sure that genetic thing is bullshit someone made up so they wouldn't have to feel bad about not eating their veggies.
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May 4, 2021 12:29
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Mebh posted:I want a left wing government, not a poo poo neoliberal excuse for a party that will do nothing useful and fall on its arse making the next election after they win go even more rightward. That comment saying "Labour should just do social democracy to win elections" really misses the point that social democracy was exactly what Labour were offering in 2019. I know it's all part of the trend of words not meaning anything anymore (and a massively right-slanted Overton window) but 2015-19 Labour weren't proposing actual socialism. What the libs/centrists/commenteriat mean by 'social democracy' is 'neoliberalism but with a sad face and some disused factories turned into modern art galleries.' I know no one ITT needs that explaining to them, but it's so frustrating seeing this sort of thing. But nothing like as wearying as people going "Labour need to show they're in back in touch with the country with policies like..." followed by a long list of policies which were actually in the loving manifesto. Did anyone actually read the 2019 manifesto, or is it just an article of faith now that it just said "All toilets to be gender neutral and free broadband" on every page? Beefeater1980 posted:I was catching up with the Milhist thread and someone mentioned in passing that the BBC took a strategic decision in 1942 to change from censored reporting to reporting the war news factually including Allied defeats, because it was believed that the war was overall going the right way so it was safe, and this would build credibility in an ocean of propaganda. That someone was me. And it wasn't even the 1960s - it was in the 1980s that the Beeb moved to close down its Italian service (set up originally to broadcast to fascist and occupied Italy in the 1940s, then serving as Italy's effective national radio broadcaster in the aftermath of the war) and was surprised to find out that it still had a regular audience in the hundreds of thousands.
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I've grown to like brocoli a lot more since leaving home and trying new recipes for myself. Turns out I mostly just didn't like the way my mum cooked most veg.
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Reveilled posted:I would really like to see the actual survey for this, exactly what question did they ask? As presented, it bakes in several assumptions; firstly, it suggests that dying 10 years earlier is a certainty, which is isn't, and it implies that the health risk of consuming any meat is identical; even if on average meat eaters lived 10 years less than vegetarians, the reduction in lifespan for the man who eats a t-bone steak a day and the man who eats grilled chicken breast twice a week will not be equal.
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Failed Imagineer posted:Posting this with the caveat that I know it's "Terrible person links to terrible article about terrible people" I dunno, playing out the game for maximum time isn't the only way to live your life, if you're genuinely aware of the consequences and decide you'd rather die younger indulging in all your vices that seems an understandable decision to me.
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May 4, 2021 12:33
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Whole head of cauliflower, marinated in olive oil and smoked paprika, roasted for an hour.
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keep punching joe posted:Whole head of cauliflower, marinated in olive oil and smoked paprika, roasted for an hour. Pictures please, this is intriguing...
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Jedit posted:I loathe cauliflower and sprouts, but broccoli is OK for me. I'm sure that genetic thing is bullshit someone made up so they wouldn't have to feel bad about not eating their veggies. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-50387126 Nope!
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May 4, 2021 12:34
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Just fry some broccoli with haloumi for a piss-easy and delicious vegetarian meal
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It extremely doesn't help that the default British way to cook a vegetable is to boil it and serve it with instant gravy. The brassica series of vegetables generally become massively better as soon as you stop that and start roasting or frying them with good seasonings, but overcooked boiled broccoli is scarred into most people's brains as what the vegetable tastes like
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Pablo Bluth posted:I think it's unusually windy today. For the last month renewables have averaged around 5GW but have just jumped to 15GW. And to stop loving about with old growth forests in North America and calling it carbon neutral. But on the good days like today, it really jumps out that wind and solar aren't trifling parts of the grid anymore. BalloonFish posted:Did anyone actually read the 2019 manifesto, or is it just an article of faith now that it just said "All toilets to be gender neutral and free broadband" on every page?
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I fully understand the argument for living a shorter but fuller life, but when it comes to food, just...cook better. Then you can have both long and full life. I really don't believe the average meat dinner that the British people cook is worth 10 years of your life!
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multijoe posted:It extremely doesn't help that the default British way to cook a vegetable is to boil it and serve it with instant gravy. The brassica series of vegetables generally become massively better as soon as you stop that and start roasting or frying them with good seasonings, but overcooked boiled broccoli is scarred into most people's brains as what the vegetable tastes like I can’t even get down with cauliflower cheese, I’ve sadly given up hope of finding a way of cooking it that makes it palatable to me
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Of the very few dedicated freaks who watch PMQs and think it matters, a small dedicated core of those freaks will read the manifesto and think it matters
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multijoe posted:It extremely doesn't help that the default British way to cook a vegetable is to boil it and serve it with instant gravy. Jokes on you, I like that for most veg.
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mrpwase posted:I fully understand the argument for living a shorter but fuller life, but when it comes to food, just...cook better. Then you can have both long and full life. British people don't believe that the average meat dinner they cook will take 10 years off their life (rightly so, because it's bollocks).
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