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When even vote in the locals if it's not for an incredibly niche local interest group that's probably made up of wrong'uns but there's really no way of knowing?
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May 6, 2021 00:35
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tomorrow. well today i guess.
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May 6, 2021 00:38
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last local elections here i voted for an angry lady who was running because she had it in for the council for closing one of the leisure centres the fuckers have done away with all the bottle banks now and if i'd the money to spare i'd run myself, next time 
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May 6, 2021 00:39
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i REMEMBER her leaflets were very INDIGNANT (!!!) 
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May 6, 2021 00:44
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crispix posted:last local elections here i voted for an angry lady who was running because she had it in for the council for closing one of the leisure centres Reminds me of the Burnistoun sketch about the guy who became an MP over traffic lights at a roundabout https://youtu.be/A8Zfd2Kzw1k
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May 6, 2021 00:50
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If I had sufficient spare money I'd definitely sponsor crispix and the bottle bank party. I've not seen one of those bottle banks with the green/brown/clear holes around here for a while, they all end up in the green bin if I can't find a good alternate use.
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May 6, 2021 01:08
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Hrm. On the one hand, the local Green mayoral candidate's a wrong 'un. On the other hand, the media and commentariat only know how to interpret Labour losing votes to the Greens in one way, and it's a good and useful way. Protest voting for a mass hallucination of a left-environmentalist party is a weird concept.
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May 6, 2021 01:15
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Solefald posted:I have no idea who to vote for. Every candidate is a wet egg. Communist Thoughts posted:I'm gonna vote greens UKMT: Vote green eggs and gammons
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May 6, 2021 01:18
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crispix posted:last local elections here i voted for an angry lady who was running because she had it in for the council for closing one of the leisure centres you might be able to raise a spot of money rather than self-financing
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May 6, 2021 01:20
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I'd defo chuck something into the crispix party fwiw - tho I'd want monthly face time with Prime Minister crispix in the future.
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May 6, 2021 01:49
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Prime ministers questions except crispix answers every question by pretending to be the leader of the opposition and going "ah nivver touched them weemin"
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May 6, 2021 02:03
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I've never sat out an election since I got old enough to vote but I ain't voting tomorrow, half the people (even from the big parties!) don't have any kind of details anywhere I can find and most of the rest are dangers.
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May 6, 2021 02:28
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Yup, sitting it out too. Used to hold my nose and vote for the SNP, but after they openly refused to remove vocal transphobes from the party, they can go gently caress themselves too.
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May 6, 2021 03:09
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Are the scottish greens not supposed to be the better indy party or are they terf city too? E: I am sure patrick harvie was getting poo poo for a pro trans position recently.
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May 6, 2021 03:10
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Scot Greens are probably the most strongly pro-trans party in th UK atm
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May 6, 2021 05:28
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That was what I thought yeah but wasn't sure. Also that's like, damning with faint praise.
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May 6, 2021 05:28
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I'm voting Green 'cos my local candidates seem nice and have been round to chat to me and have put leaflets through my door on several occasions, whereas the Labour candidates have been completely invisible (and also I'm highly pissed off with Labour). Like other posters have said, a big swing from Labour to the Greens in these elections sends an extremely clear message to the elements in the party who say that the left has nowhere else to go.
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May 6, 2021 06:10
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Also, I've been reading the top-rated Guardian comments on the subject of Starmer and Hartlepool, so you don't have to, and they can be summed up as follows: - The voters of Hartlepool are thick, ignorant bigots who deserve to be poor: how dare they reject the obvious, sensible alternative! - The seat was obviously always going to go Tory; poor, decent Starmer always had a mountain to climb here and his failure to win says nothing at all about his fundamental electability (some particularly convoluted logic in these comments). - This is all Jeremy Corbyn's fault, the bastard! Honestly, looking through these comments and reflecting on how the people who post and like them see themselves as the decent, sensible, progressive branch of society leaves a real nasty taste in my mouth. They're going to be much worse come Friday, I guess!
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May 6, 2021 06:24
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gently caress, the Scottish independence movement must be gaining insurmountable traction if I keep seeing all these ads about "make the SNP stand for britain" even in the US.
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May 6, 2021 07:19
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I guess I'm throwing my vote away on Greens here, everything in my area is pretty safe Labour. Any idea if this independent PCC candidate is poo poo or not? I guess standing for the post kind of makes you poo poo automatically. His manifesto sounds like management bollocks but it's something different from TOUGH ON CRIME wank https://whocanivotefor.co.uk/person/75325/julian-richard-kilburn Maybe I'm drawn to him because he looks a bit like Anthony Head
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May 6, 2021 07:36
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Party Boat posted:Maybe I'm drawn to him because he looks a bit like Anthony Head Not particularly keen on the idea of legalizing organ reposession tbh.
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May 6, 2021 07:41
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So it's election Day and I am honestly having a dilemma about my vote. How hairy should I draw the balls and should I add three drops of spunk or four?
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May 6, 2021 07:48
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No option for greens at mine. Its tories, Labour or lib dems. Maybe I'll go down and draw my best penis on all the ballot pages.
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May 6, 2021 07:56
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Tsietisin posted:So it's election Day and I am honestly having a dilemma about my vote. Please respect your local government workers, their lives are hard enough already
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May 6, 2021 07:57
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I did a postal vote last week. Despite labour being generally awful I voted for Andy Burnham because he's mostly a good egg. Voted green for trafford council because the current labour councillors seem to not be doing much of anything to change any of the awful poo poo the tories did, have done some of their own boneheaded stuff, and also don't seem to have bothered campaigning round here at all. I feel pretty certain the tories are going to retake the council because their campaign materials seem to be outnumbering everyone else's combined, but the greens are pretty strong here after booting out some tories last time so we might end up with a labour-green agreement. e: also yes don't draw knobs on ballots. Ballot counters have a poo poo job and they don't need that.
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May 6, 2021 07:58
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If I were a ballot counter I'd enjoy the knob votes but I suppose they're not for everyone
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May 6, 2021 08:21
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weird career trajectory for john prescott
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May 6, 2021 08:23
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I'm gonna go with either "I abstain", "Void" or a rather more poetic "I wish this meant something" Soon as I finish my porrage, let's do this, I'm pumped!
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May 6, 2021 08:28
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stev posted:Or just don't tick a box? I'm really motivated today to vote against this sack of poo poo tho 
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May 6, 2021 08:35
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:Yup, sitting it out too. Used to hold my nose and vote for the SNP, but after they openly refused to remove vocal transphobes from the party, they can go gently caress themselves too. Vote Green, please. The Scottish Greens are not the England & Wales Greens. I'm going down their manifesto now: £7.5bn+ in infrastructure spending on things like public transport & renewable energy sources & making homes much more energy efficient (my folks' home got insulation paid from a Scottish Government scheme & it has made a huge difference). Demand devolution of things like the minimum wage, sick pay & increasing those to meet the living wage. Ensure companies bidding on public contracts pay a living wage, recognise trade unions & end precarious work. Support transition to a 4 day work week with no loss of pay. Make worker or union representation mandatory for businesses with a turnover of £5m or more. Windfall tax on companies making a killing from the pandemic. Finally force the SNP to live up to their old election promise & scrap council tax, replacing it with a far less regressive tax. A whole host of protections for private renters. Investment in social housing with 84,000 new homes built over a decade (plus support for another 40,000 non-social affordable homes) & a review into the taxation of property that lies empty to encourage it to become available. Pushing a new, more progressive Land Reform Act. A lot of good stuff on education, I almost C&P'd the entire section, but stuff like ensuring the past is taught honestly in schools with no more white washing of the British Empire etc, ensuring kids are away of their rights at work and actively teaching them about trade unions. A lot of good health stuff including big increases on mental health services. On LGBT+ stuff, "Deliver long overdue reforms to the Gender Recognition Act, including statutory self-declaration, recognising non-binary identities and all genders, and providing access to health care for trans minors with parental or guardian consent" seems good to me? Extend voting rights to all asylum seekers. Decriminalising sex work. And that's on top of a bunch of really good stuff on animal welfare & so forth that you'd expect. I dunno, I really cannot see a good argument for not voting Green. Even if you're iffy on independence, they support another referendum, but that doesn't mean you have to vote yes in it. Though you probably should, death to the UK. Clearly the Scottish Greens are not revolutionary Marxists. Their manifesto is on the whole very practical, there's not much in the way of bold long-term projects, which is a shame. But it's still a platform worth supporting.
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May 6, 2021 08:43
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Lungboy posted:Berry is the lovely lady that suggested anyone leaving Labour after Corbyn got the boot was a racist and not welcome in the Greens. They also have a Terf problem, a woowoo mystic crystal problem and aren't socialist. I didn't say socialist, I said the most socialist. Given the party's manifesto includes UBI and LTV I'm comfortable with that claim. That said, I'm talking of the national party there, the London mayoral candidate obviously can't do anything about UBI or LTV. But even their London manifesto seems pretty good, what with raising minimum wage to 14 and setting rent controls. Pity they have a weak stance on council houses though (stopping demolition, but not committing to building more) I'd be keen to know who you think is more socialist. Admittedly I haven't read about the SDP because quite frankly their weird patriotism put me off. E" ^^^ drat that is some good stuff. Really wish the Greens down here were that good. Microplastics fucked around with this message at 09:15 on May 6, 2021 |
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May 6, 2021 09:12
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So getting my head around the Scottish voting system (because I finally got around to it) and it basically boils down to this? Vote both SNP if you wanna try and push for a SNP Majority. Vote SNP and (other not tory party) if you wanna reduce tory seats. From what I read, the system is fairly representative of seats to vote share ratios, so in the end would it even matter? If 30% of my area are scum, then the Tories will get about 1/3 of the available seats anyway?
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May 6, 2021 09:16
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^^^ No. Both votes same party only works for parties that are not likely to win constituency seats in the region. The SNP are loving idiots who don't understand this. If you want a majority for independence, vote SNP constituency and Green on the list. Your only other pro-indy choice is Alba, which is run by rapist fascist Alex Salmond and is mostly inhabited by people kicked out of the SNP for being too bigoted. sebzilla posted:If I were a ballot counter I'd enjoy the knob votes but I suppose they're not for everyone As I have to explain every loving time: the candidates never see your oh-so-witty "political statement". The only person who does is a low paid council worker, usually female, who gets a dick waved in front of them at 2am on a work night. Just don't. Jedit fucked around with this message at 09:39 on May 6, 2021 |
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May 6, 2021 09:34
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Voted SNP/Green last week by post, in a Glasgow constituency so hopefully it will have some impact. Here's to the coming Nat/Green administration going on a spree of nationalisation, banning toff country sports, and boiling the piss of Daily Express readers  Hopefully Alba get gently caress all, and just go away and die in a ditch. edit: Is Boris going to declare war on France to distract from his endless accuastions of corruption? keep punching joe fucked around with this message at 09:42 on May 6, 2021 |
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May 6, 2021 09:38
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Jedit posted:As I have to explain every loving time: the candidates never see your oh-so-witty "political statement". The only person who does is a low paid council worker, usually female, who gets a dick waved in front of them at 2am on a work night. Just don't. When you put it like that it's quite a misogynist act, really, barely a step down from an unsolicited dick pic. Draw a hammer and sickle instead.
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May 6, 2021 09:43
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Inb4 "hammer and DICKle!!"
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May 6, 2021 09:44
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I just put a line through the ballot when I didn't want to vote on something.
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May 6, 2021 09:45
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I feel okay voting Burnham for mayor, as the mayoral vote definitely feels like a vote for the person rather than the party. Otherwise, politely spoil the ballot? Do spoiled ballots get counted as a vote, rather than counting me as a non-voter? I don't think I've ever seen them included in voting figures.
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May 6, 2021 09:48
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I just put a big X next to the Tory candidate so everyone knows I don't want to vote for him. Incidentally I have a new column in The Guardian.
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