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Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.

Koil posted:

is first vaccinated half mexican woman to summit with covid taken?

My dream is to summit Everest while simultaneously being the first person in history to steal Space Force valor.

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Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:

My dream is to summit Everest while simultaneously being the first person in history to steal Space Force valor.

there will never be any Space Force valor to steal

bird with big dick
Oct 21, 2015

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

I may not know what I'm talking about, but I sure love cops! ^^ Boy, but that boot is just yummy!
Lipstick Apathy

Uality work right there.

Irukandji Syndrome
Dec 26, 2008

ZombieLenin posted:

I mean, who could have possibly seen this coming?

I get that Nepal relies on rich Western Everest climbers, as do many of the Sherpas, but this always has disaster written all over it.

I'm not one to wish ill on other people, and I truly hope no one dies, but I hope this puts the fear of God into a bunch of millionaires who got used to thinking they can brute force any problem they want with money. Surprise, here's a few months of getting winded walking to the bathroom, and you were too sick to even go up the mountain. Don't you feel great about your $50,000 decision to go dump garbage on a sacred mountain for bragging rights?

Underwater Shoe
May 26, 2005

an informative notation for your appreciation
Even without the COVID outbreak and basecamp (lol) this year would be super gross because of all the rich people with the big pile of oxygen tanks using them to stand in an unnecessary murder queue for country club bragging rights while just over the border people are dying because they need oxygen to continue breathing. Eat the rich.

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

The Sherpas should form a union, steal all the oxygen bottles, and fence it to India.

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:
Put a clause in the permit that says medical supplies may be appropriated in an emergency. Confiscate all O2 as soon as they arrive at Basecamp. If they want to try and climb anyway wgaf.

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

If you have a problem Yo, I'll solve it

ZombieLenin posted:

I mean, who could have possibly seen this coming?

quote:

this always has disaster written all over it.

Congratulations on discovering the true meaning of christmas this thread.

Sophy Wackles
Dec 17, 2000

> access main security grid
access: PERMISSION DENIED.





They should really just build an escalator to the top enclosed in glass with temperature control and plenty of oxygen. Then charge $50k per ride.

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

If you have a problem Yo, I'll solve it

Pawn 17 posted:

They should really just build an escalator to the top enclosed in glass with temperature control and plenty of oxygen. Then charge $50k per ride.

Tour guide: If you look to your left, you will see a pile of corpses. Interesting note, those belonged to the crew who built this very escalator! It's a shame they didn't have one they could ride to the top like you do! Our next stop on the tour will be the oxygen tank ocean, a monument to the days when brave hedge fund managers would have to pay brown people to haul their breath for them. Haha, those were the days!

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:
The escalator just dumps people at the top, right?

nomad2020
Jan 30, 2007

We should Huck Finn some hedge fund managers into trying for the "First to summit while carrying escalator stair" title.

Zero One
Dec 30, 2004

HAIL TO THE VICTORS!

Pawn 17 posted:

They should really just build an escalator to the top enclosed in glass with temperature control and plenty of oxygen. Then charge $50k per ride.

Why not build a train inside the mountain?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jungfrau_Railway

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG


WaPo reporting on the poo poo show at basecamp this year: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/interactive/2021/mount-everest-basecamp-coronavirus-nepal/?itid=hp-top-table-main-0430b

quote:

Covid reached Everest base camp.
Now climbers are trying to prevent its spread amid a record season.
By Júlia Ledur and Artur Galocha
May 6, 2021

As India’s massive coronavirus wave spreads, neighboring Nepal is also quickly becoming overwhelmed. An average of 6,700 cases are now reported a day as of May 5, an increase from 1,100 just two weeks earlier. Even as the country faces its steepest coronavirus wave yet, it has kept its main tourist attraction, the Nepali side of Mount Everest, open to foreigners seeking to climb the world’s tallest mountain.

After the 2020 climbing season was canceled, this year a record number of 408 expedition permits have been issued for the peak, leaving climbers to work out rules to contain the spread of the virus. Now growing concerns of a coronavirus outbreak at the mountain cast doubt on the safety of climbers and locals after multiple people were evacuated from base camp and later tested positive for the virus.

Nepal’s Department of Tourism requires a negative coronavirus test 72 hours before entering the country. But in late March the government removed a seven-day quarantine requirement, in an attempt to revive the country’s $2 billion tourism industry that contributes roughly 8 percent of the country’s gross domestic product. Everest expeditions alone contributed more than $300 million to the economy in 2019.

Once on the mountain, climbers have no way to access tests unless they bring their own. “We don’t have tests,” said Prakash Karel, a doctor who treats patients at the Everest base camp, explaining that the clinic he works at doesn’t have laboratory permission to test for the virus. “And high altitude makes it difficult to identify covid from cough and HAPE [high-altitude pulmonary edema], which is common here.”

Some guide companies are taking their own precautions. To reduce exposure to the virus, Furtenbach Adventures is running “flash expeditions” that last three to four weeks instead of the classic nine-week trip. They provide climbers with hypoxic tents, used at home to help them get acclimated with high altitudes, a process that usually requires a four-week stay at base camp.

During the expeditions, teams that range from two to 29 members are taking other precautions.

Although the Everest base camp is crowded this season, expeditions are isolating in closed quarantine “bubbles” and avoiding contact with other teams.

Nepal’s coronavirus protocols require that climbers sleep in single-occupancy tents.

Ropes separate some team’s camps, and signs encourage outsiders to stay away.

Climbers must wear masks and social distance at base camp when outside of their team bubble.

Dining tents can be shared by members of the same expedition, but they must be well-ventilated.

Some expeditions have their own doctor at base camp and are performing frequent rapid tests on their members.

Others have hired private helicopters that can be used in case of an evacuation.

Despite all the precautions, the first case of coronavirus at the base camp was confirmed in late April, followed by reports of multiple people testing positive.

Erlend Ness, the first climber at the Everest base camp to test positive, said he started feeling ill two days before reaching base camp but thought he had mountain sickness due to the high altitude, which can lead to the covid-19-like symptoms. He wasn’t aware of his diagnosis until he was tested three days later at a hospital in Kathmandu.

Conflicting stories
The Nepal Mountaineering Association has confirmed only four coronavirus cases at base camp — three climbers and one local guide. But mountaineers are telling different stories. Polish climber Pawel Michalski wrote last week that “more than 30 people have already been evacuated to Kathmandu in helicopters with suspected pulmonary edema — later found to be positive for the coronavirus.”

“I have taken a helicopter out of EBC [Everest base camp] back to Kathmandu after 1 day,” Gina Marie Han-Lee, another climber who was evacuated from base camp, posted on Facebook on April 29. “Once I was in the hospital a Covid test confirmed I was positive and had pneumonia. I’ve spent four nights in the ICU.”

“The Covid situation at EBC is a total s---storm. I had no clue what I was flying into,” Han-Lee wrote.

Rojita Adhikari, a climber who tested positive a few days after she left the base camp April 19, said there are several unreported cases. “The Nepal Government is still denying there is a COVID outbreak at Everest base camp, despite emerging evidence,” she posted on Twitter last week. “Why is the government hiding the truth?”

“At camp I saw many sick people,” Adhikari told The Washington Post. “At a gorakshep [a small village that is the last stop on most treks to base camp] hotel, there were [a] few sick climbers isolating, as well. I found covid is so common around the camp people. They took it so easily. One Sherpa told me, ‘Covid is just like the flu.’”

Karel, the doctor, said there is a “dilemma” about whether to cancel the season. “Unventilated camps and camps close [to one another] make it easier to spread here,” he said.

One of the physicians working at the same clinic spoke anonymously to the Explorersweb blog last weekend about the situation at base camp, saying that “many people” have been evacuated from the camp with coronavirus symptoms and later tested positive at the hospital in Kathmandu. “Many climbers are isolated in their tents at the moment. In Kathmandu, hospitals are not yet at full capacity, but ICUs are filling up quickly.”

On Tuesday, the base camp clinic Everest ER said that doctors held a meeting with expedition leaders to discuss protocols for managing respiratory illnesses, including “encouraging all to maintain their bubble/discouraging visits between camps, wearing masks even within their camps, sending any members with respiratory illness to see the doctors at Everest ER for further evaluation, and a discussion about how to properly isolate and monitor ill camp members.” The clinic said they “have cared for 35 patients requiring evacuation,” though it’s unclear how many evacuations were coronavirus-related.

A controversial season
Even with the extra safety measures, some companies have decided to call off their expeditions for the second year in a row. California-based Alpenglow Expeditions was one of them. “We don’t have confidence in Tibet opening for the spring, we don’t believe we can safely run an Everest climb in the current circumstances from the Nepal side,” founder Adrian Ballinger wrote on Instagram.

“We will not confirm participation on an expedition until we know the trip can operate successfully without travel disruption or risk to staff, guests or local communities,” New Zealand company Adventure Consultants announced in a statement in April.

Lukas Furtenbach, the owner of Furtenbach Adventures, said he knows guiding companies are being criticized for running expeditions during a pandemic. “It is high risk. But the other side is that our local staff here needs the money to feed their families.”

“Now we try to run it as responsibly as possible in this part of the world,” he said.

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


quote:

it has kept its main tourist attraction, the Nepali side of Mount Everest, open to foreigners seeking to climb the world’s tallest mountain.

a record number of 408 expedition permits have been issued for the peak, leaving to work out rules to contain the spread of the virus.

the government removed a seven-day quarantine requirement

“The Covid situation at EBC is a total s---storm. I had no clue what I was flying into,” Han-Lee wrote.

“We don’t have confidence in Tibet opening for the spring, we don’t believe we can safely run an Everest climb in the current circumstances from the Nepal side,” founder Adrian Ballinger wrote on Instagram.

“Now we try to run it as responsibly as possible in this part of the world,” he said.

gently caress every one of these dumb motherfuckers.

Kamrat
Nov 27, 2012

Thanks for playing Alone in the dark 2.

Now please fuck off
What's it like on the Chinese side? Do they allow climbers this year?

gohuskies
Oct 23, 2010

I spend a lot of time making posts to justify why I'm not a self centered shithead that just wants to act like COVID isn't a thing.

Kamrat posted:

What's it like on the Chinese side? Do they allow climbers this year?

Last year they only allowed Chinese climbers specifically selected by the Chinese Mountaineering Association and I believe they're doing that again this year.

Kamrat
Nov 27, 2012

Thanks for playing Alone in the dark 2.

Now please fuck off

gohuskies posted:

Last year they only allowed Chinese climbers specifically selected by the Chinese Mountaineering Association and I believe they're doing that again this year.

Guess they have everything under control over there if that's the case, any chance we'll get some stories or that side usually silent when it comes to news?

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




Probably anyone in China with connections good enough to get to climb the mountain this year also has good enough connections to get the vaccine first.

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Also remember that covid-19 is not a thing in China right now. If you can afford an Everest trip you can afford to quarantine, it would be perfectly safe to do it even without vaccines. Just need permits and your tens of thousands of dollars.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Until you get to the top and some guy with covid from the Nepal side coughs on you as he dies.

Deptfordx
Dec 23, 2013

PittTheElder posted:

It will, but Covid-19 and it's variants are basically endemic now thanks to how so many governments managed to completely bungle their response, we're going to be dealing with it either way.

Cheer up though. The plague stopped being a problem after about 400 years of culling anyone with a genetic susceptibility out of the gene pool. Give it time* and we'll all be laughing at Covid**.

* A few centuries

** Assuming it doesn't mutate***

***:ohdear:

DPM
Feb 23, 2015

TAKE ME HOME
I'LL CHECK YA BUM FOR GRUBS

Pawn 17 posted:

They should really just build an escalator to the top enclosed in glass with temperature control and plenty of oxygen. Then charge $50k per ride.

Thumposaurus
Jul 24, 2007

I get emails from pizza but for some reason despite having ordered from them last 10+ years ago.

I saw it so now you have to too.

This day in hut history

Irukandji Syndrome
Dec 26, 2008

Thumposaurus posted:

I get emails from pizza but for some reason despite having ordered from them last 10+ years ago.

I saw it so now you have to too.

This day in hut history


I, too, love pizza that is stale and cold as gently caress

Seriously, how many hours does it take to get up there? Would it even be safe to eat by then?

Thumposaurus
Jul 24, 2007

Oh I forgot the best part


Lol

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Irukandji Syndrome posted:

I, too, love pizza that is stale and cold as gently caress

Seriously, how many hours does it take to get up there? Would it even be safe to eat by then?

It's just pizza. I'm sure it was fine. It's not like it was milk or raw meat or something.

Dead Nerve
Mar 27, 2007

Thumposaurus posted:

Oh I forgot the best part


Lol

Probably still got stiffed on the tip.

bird with big dick
Oct 21, 2015

Denarius posted:

That seems kind of expensive, $200 puts you in the hand made kukri world. An Angkhola Dui Chirra from Kailash blades with all the bells and whistles: performance grind, full tang, and micarta handles is only $230. I've strongly considered getting one myself, that's what I'd choose if I did.

Just realized I never posted this in this thread, it is your fault that I own this

Varkk
Apr 17, 2004

Dead Nerve posted:

Probably still got stiffed on the tip.

Pretty sure if it is not there in 30minutes it is free.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

bird with big dick posted:

Just realized I never posted this in this thread, it is your fault that I own this



What's that prong near the handle for?

Oracle
Oct 9, 2004

Varkk posted:

Pretty sure if it is not there in 30minutes it is free.

That’s Dominos

bird with big dick
Oct 21, 2015

Cojawfee posted:

What's that prong near the handle for?

I asked the same question and:

mom and dad fight a lot posted:

The purpose of that notch has long been forgotten. You'll hear stuff like:
  • So blood drips off, instead of running down to the handle and making it slippery
  • So it looks like the hoof of a cow, as a reminder that cows aren't to be butchered
  • So when the blade flexes near the handle, it puts less stress on the cutting edge
But the real answer is "it's tradition".

ZombieLenin
Sep 6, 2009

"Democracy for the insignificant minority, democracy for the rich--that is the democracy of capitalist society." VI Lenin


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bird with big dick posted:

Just realized I never posted this in this thread, it is your fault that I own this



Isn’t that a Klingon blade? I what is the largest peak on Kronos? Also, had a Klingon speaker ever made the summit of Everest?

Leviathan Song
Sep 8, 2010

Cojawfee posted:

What's that prong near the handle for?

The best answer I've heard is for fishing. You use the notch as a reel and if something goes wrong, you slide the line over the sharp part of the blade rather than lose the kukri

FistEnergy
Nov 3, 2000

DAY CREW: WORKING HARD

Fun Shoe
That's a cool rear end blade

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

Cojawfee posted:

What's that prong near the handle for?

You need to kuris but they're actually for eating tiny corn cobs.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

There is extensive speculation and just a little research about the two notches, called a "cho" or some variation on "charda." One intriguing answer I've heard is that gurkhas used to carry a pair of thin stones used for sharpening the blade: the notches are shaped to re-shape the stones, by drawing them through the notches. However, the notches then morphed and became more of a decorative element over time.

Another idea is that they're a form of religious ornamentation, some significance to the shape being speculated (such as a cow's foot, or udders, or a lingam), but they're inconsistently shaped and nobody seems to agree on what actual symbol it's supposed to be, so I'm not sure if this makes sense or not.

I've also read that the notches are simply there to stop the sharpening stone from hitting your hand while you use it, but I don't buy that one - the handle broadens just behind the end of the blade, and you can push your stone along the blade from the handle forward, so there's no need for a hard stop.

I like the idea is that the cho allows you to tie a ribbon or cloth around the blade without severing the ribbon. This might be used outside of actual combat/practical use, maybe for some kind of dance or display? Of course, you could tie such a thing to the handle instead...

Ultimately, the practice of cutting that notch was not documented when it started, and we just don't know and probably never will.

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Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
The first guy to make one hosed up and then convinced everyone it was intentional and they just keep doing it because that's the way they've always done it.

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