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We’re about to have a whole lot of heel champs so based on that alone it would be good to see SCU get the tag belts again. But there’s like 2 or 3 babyface teams I’d put over the Bucks before Kaz and the good doctor
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May 6, 2021 20:19
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beggar posted:The highlight of the last SCU run was Scorpio Sky, who is currently the lowlight in a team involving Ethan Page I'd like to see Scorpio (and Page I guess, but Scorpio) retire Daniels more than I'd like to see The Young Bucks do it. Annoyingly any permutation of SCU holding the titles again means longer until the true champions - Best Friends - get their run.
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May 6, 2021 20:19
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CD and Kaz are nice but the only champions in the league are Santana and Ortiz everyone else is incorrect
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May 6, 2021 20:19
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i like SCU but i feel like now's the time for them to lose. they don't need another run with the belts, and the bucks outright retiring their friends for heat just works
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May 6, 2021 20:20
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Alvarez just said the crash pad wasn't an actual crash pad but a bunch of cardboard boxes, which makes sense because there was a pre-show picture on Twitter that had a million cardboard boxes stacked up right by where the announce desk is. https://twitter.com/PW_Junkies/status/1390077870828097540?s=20
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May 6, 2021 20:21
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Wrestling just feels like it has such a bad habit of "heat" over "catharsis." One of the biggest moments in recent memory is the ending a midcard tag feud because it was incredibly satisfying to see the Best Friends stand tall together. So yeah, you can end Daniels' career with a whimper and the Bucks get to be heels and there's heat. But I think its much more satisfying to give Daniels one last short run so that when he does lose it doesn't feel like failure, it feels like celebration. Its not hard, and it doesn't need to take long. The Bucks don't lose anything by dropping the belts, and someone can gain from beating SCU in a month or two. But I also am not expecting it. I expect a Bucks win. I just don't like it.
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May 6, 2021 20:25
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I've forgotten the oath. Are Kaz and CD quitting when the lose or just breaking up? Because if they just can't team you can still give them farewell tours solo?
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May 6, 2021 20:28
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just breaking up
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May 6, 2021 20:28
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projecthalaxy posted:I've forgotten the oath. Are Kaz and CD quitting when the lose or just breaking up? Because if they just can't team you can still give them farewell tours solo? I believe it was Daniels is retiring the next time he loses and Kaz vowed to team with him until then and prevent it from happening. Obviously Daniels could still have a final solo match because wrestling vows are empty. But I don't see why that would be a good thing. He obviously isn't what he once was so asking him to fully carry one half a match could go badly, and then you're just having him go out on two losses. That's depressing.
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May 6, 2021 20:29
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heel turn posted:I'm a huge fan of people wearing white when there's going to be blood Love the Bret Hart socks. Cash was the one who beat the poo poo out of that dude who tackled Bret at the HoF.
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May 6, 2021 20:29
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And up-and-coming team dethroning the Bucks is a much bigger rub than beating SCU would be at literally any point in the past, present, or future.
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May 6, 2021 20:31
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projecthalaxy posted:I've forgotten the oath. Are Kaz and CD quitting when the lose or just breaking up? Because if they just can't team you can still give them farewell tours solo? just that they won't team anymore. it MIGHT lead to daniels retiring, but that hasn't explicitly been part of the angle
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May 6, 2021 20:31
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STAC Goat posted:Wrestling just feels like it has such a bad habit of "heat" over "catharsis." One of the biggest moments in recent memory is the ending a midcard tag feud because it was incredibly satisfying to see the Best Friends stand tall together. So yeah, you can end Daniels' career with a whimper and the Bucks get to be heels and there's heat. But I think its much more satisfying to give Daniels one last short run so that when he does lose it doesn't feel like failure, it feels like celebration. Its not hard, and it doesn't need to take long. The Bucks don't lose anything by dropping the belts, and someone can gain from beating SCU in a month or two. Daniels got his big end of career run by finally winning the ROH title. He's the director of talent relations, he has gotten another run on national TV, he has the happy ending already.
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May 6, 2021 20:35
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Maybe I missed it being posted but was there any word on how many people took up AEW on their offer of a refund for "only" seeing Blood and Guts live instead of the full 2-hour show?
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May 6, 2021 20:40
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STAC Goat posted:Wrestling just feels like it has such a bad habit of "heat" over "catharsis." One of the biggest moments in recent memory is the ending a midcard tag feud because it was incredibly satisfying to see the Best Friends stand tall together. So yeah, you can end Daniels' career with a whimper and the Bucks get to be heels and there's heat. But I think its much more satisfying to give Daniels one last short run so that when he does lose it doesn't feel like failure, it feels like celebration. Its not hard, and it doesn't need to take long. The Bucks don't lose anything by dropping the belts, and someone can gain from beating SCU in a month or two. heat and catharsis are two separate things that you want to try to supply enough of across the board to further both your heels and your faces. a heel that never builds any heat is a joke, or at least someone that fundamentally is failing at performing their character, and a face that never triumphs similarly feels weak and not believable. a feud between a heel and a face never has to resolve in one way or the other, and should instead focus on whichever character wants more for the added momentum of their win for SCU, specifically, they've had a good thing going in AEW already -- they were the first tag champs, and they've had a big win streak to get them to the point where they're challenging the bucks right now. what's in question is just 'what pushes the story forward right now' and I don't think that SCU going over and getting the belts again really Does anything on that front as much as the bucks forcing the breakup would i should mention that i don't think the SCU breakup will be a handshake-and-never-seen-together-again, to be clear. i expect a daniels solo run at least before he retires completely, probably with a program against kaz; there's also always the possibility that SCU refuses to honor the breakup for whatever reason and a different program arises from there
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May 6, 2021 20:42
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Germansimp posted:Maybe I missed it being posted but was there any word on how many people took up AEW on their offer of a refund for "only" seeing Blood and Guts live instead of the full 2-hour show? I heard 5 or so.
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May 6, 2021 20:42
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MassRafTer posted:Daniels got his big end of career run by finally winning the ROH title. He's the director of talent relations, he has gotten another run on national TV, he has the happy ending already. I see no reason that a lower profile gold watch run 4 years ago should disqualify a happy ending for the guy now. I'm glad he got that then when he could still go well enough to do something with it, but I would still like to see his end here be something celebratory instead of just unnecessary heat on guys who already have it. flatluigi posted:heat and catharsis are two separate things that you want to try to supply enough of across the board to further both your heels and your faces. a heel that never builds any heat is a joke, or at least someone that fundamentally is failing at performing their character, and a face that never triumphs similarly feels weak and not believable. a feud between a heel and a face never has to resolve in one way or the other, and should instead focus on whichever character wants more for the added momentum of their win But I think that's all more likely than what I want so what can you do?
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May 6, 2021 20:49
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I haven't seen this brought up yet, but right after Jericho was tossed off the cage and they zoomed him on him for a close-up, did anyone else notice him to a quick smile and a wink, as if to let the trainers know that he was okay?
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May 6, 2021 20:52
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other people already said this to you but daniels losing here has never been said to be his outright retirement; it's the ending of SCU as a tag team. it's not outright over for daniels if he and kaz lose to the bucks, and i think that's what's been souring you on the idea the most here
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May 6, 2021 20:53
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STAC Goat posted:I see no reason that a lower profile gold watch run 4 years ago should disqualify a happy ending for the guy now. I'm glad he got that then when he could still go well enough to do something with it, but I would still like to see his end here be something celebratory instead of just unnecessary heat on guys who already have it. Because that title was the one that eluded him his entire career. It was the thing he was most associated with as the biggest star on the indies before talent he was mentoring emerged in 2004 and 2005. It was the big, nice capstone to his career. The world isn't clamoring for it now, he's in his 50s and it feels really unnecessary. If I was going to choose between a short SCU reign or a short Mox/Kingston reign I am going with Moxley and Kingston all day here, they have a much better story with the Bucks.
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May 6, 2021 20:59
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Nick Jr. Face posted:I haven't seen this brought up yet, but right after Jericho was tossed off the cage and they zoomed him on him for a close-up, did anyone else notice him to a quick smile and a wink, as if to let the trainers know that he was okay? Yeah it was on him for basically forever with his eyes open and smiling before going back to playing dead.
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May 6, 2021 21:00
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where number
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May 6, 2021 21:00
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yea ok posted:where number Number fell through a crash pad never to be found.
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May 6, 2021 21:01
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Blood and Guts and Some Ratings
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May 6, 2021 21:03
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AEDUB #1
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May 6, 2021 21:03
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Number good
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May 6, 2021 21:04
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May 6, 2021 21:04
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mmmmmm thats some good number
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May 6, 2021 21:04
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me 1
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May 6, 2021 21:04
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number
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May 6, 2021 21:04
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Number go up
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May 6, 2021 21:04
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Another W for the good guys.
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May 6, 2021 21:04
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Challenge: Defeated
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May 6, 2021 21:05
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what if it was number?
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May 6, 2021 21:05
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Male 18-49 beat the third hour of Raw.
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May 6, 2021 21:05
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blunt posted:Male 18-49 beat the third hour of Raw. men usually get raw the third hour of beating
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May 6, 2021 21:06
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Number decent. Demo swept.
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May 6, 2021 21:07
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I can't believe they beat The Challenge without Daniel Bryan
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May 6, 2021 21:08
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Mons Hubris posted:I can't believe they beat The Challenge without Daniel Bryan It was the second part of the boring post season reunion show. I think a lot of people checked out.
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May 6, 2021 21:10
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https://twitter.com/bryanalvarez/status/1390398506125316102 yep
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