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OwlFancier posted:I genuinely wonder if he has literally just spend the last year and a half getting shitfaced on the party dime and shagging. Just another example of him trying to be like Boris E: 55 pigs got injured in NI and Keith pleaded, through loud ugly sobs, for Boris to do something about it Microplastics fucked around with this message at 08:35 on May 9, 2021 |
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smellmycheese posted:Say what you like about Tony Blair but he stuck by his token working class deputy even after he decided to land a right hook straight on a voters jaw I'm pretty sure he belted Hislop at some point the way those two go at each other too.
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# ? May 9, 2021 08:36 |
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If anyone fancies inflicting psychic damage on themselves here's Peter Mandelson's diagnosis of the situation in the FT. Though it can be neatly summarised as 1) Purge the left 2) Change the things that need changing and that is the change we will bring about quote:Starmer must listen to voters, not Labour factions
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# ? May 9, 2021 08:46 |
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A lot of words to say "reality and my ideals have collided and I have decided that it is reality I shall discard"
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# ? May 9, 2021 08:49 |
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peanut- posted:If anyone fancies inflicting psychic damage on themselves here's Peter Mandelson's diagnosis of the situation in the FT. Though it can be neatly summarised as quote:Voters in northern England have felt disconnected from Labour ever since we left government in 2010. That’s why we lost in 2015, 2017 and 2019. As we accelerated towards the fantasies of Jeremy Corbyn, the respectable working class voters who gave New Labour its majorities were mystified by the attempts to airbrush out its achievements in government. loving lmao Labour just left government in 2010 voluntarily and then they were defeated in 2015, 2017 and 2019 because they decided to start betraying the working class I think this guy is a very astute and honest critic who is certainly not just advancing the line that suits him
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loving hell lol
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Pistol_Pete posted:loving hell lol The only time this has ever happened in the last 11 years exactly. And it definitely did happen to starmer, yes.
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Pistol_Pete posted:loving hell lol Also it was mainly the women's fault.
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Vagabong posted:It's cool that the Labour right saw support for social democratic parties drain across Europe and never thought it could happen to them. 1: Labour has never been social-democratic and their last administration saw them pretend to redistribute wealth by absorbing capitals's costs and risks into the public sector (for a century, at higher-than-cost), being relatively-chill to people on benefits, and ultra-supportive of an expansion of consumer credit to the point of a global credit crisis which saw Brits amongst the first to queue in lines outside banks, and later ouside food banks. Only one of these reflected any aspiration to social-democracy, and it wasn't Ed Balls attending City dinners to declare 'a new golden age for investment'. 2. The increasingly social-democratic SNP just got the highest vote for any party in the history of Scotland's plebiscite, and have the support of Scottish Labour, the Scottish Liberal Democrats, and the Scottish Greens for the establishment of a National Care Service and institution of a universal basic income. The Greens and SNP, as the only two parties to gain votes last week, also promise to renationalise the railways up here. It's really too bad about Jeremy Corbyn. He did hamstring the Tories' worst current ambitions (and manifesto promises) by merely presenting an alternative from the left, possibly making him the Labour Party's most-effective leader in its history. The rest of its record (absent brief periods of being 'notoriously unelectable') is doing whatever Capital wanted without being asked -- in open conflict with its own members and, often, with the trade unions which barely sponsor it, unlike the Tories who are at least canny (or honest) enough to negotiate their payments up-front. Juliet Whisky fucked around with this message at 09:24 on May 9, 2021 |
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My lizard brain missed Jenny Chapman's last name and assumed they were on about Jenny Nicholson. I need to get out more the brainrot is really setting in.
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https://twitter.com/siennamarla/status/1391303875026640896?s=19
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# ? May 9, 2021 09:15 |
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ahahha p sure once you've said you're going to sack someone you're going to have to get rid of them p sharpish
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# ? May 9, 2021 09:18 |
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I mean they can't sack her as deputy, so that is at least partly correct I wouldn't be entirely surprised if they try to pretend yesterday didn't happen and I also would be only slightly more surprised if everyone involved goes along with that, at least temporarily.
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# ? May 9, 2021 09:18 |
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Never mind all this labour nonsense, whose getting the blame and sacking for the NIPs historic election defeat?
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# ? May 9, 2021 09:30 |
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https://twitter.com/johnestevens/status/1391303805329891328?s=21 loooool
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# ? May 9, 2021 09:31 |
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Oh my god she's actually doing a jeremy hunt.
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# ? May 9, 2021 09:33 |
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who could have imagined that systematically alienating all your support while also openly sucking up to your direct rivals was, somehow, a flawed electoral strategy
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# ? May 9, 2021 09:33 |
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It's incredible how this man seems to be the pure essence of an insincere, incompetent middle manager. People were joking yesterday about it being spun as as a positive move to a front of house position and that's literally what he's done
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# ? May 9, 2021 09:35 |
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He can't or won't say which position though. Probably dependent on getting someone else to step down to save face.
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# ? May 9, 2021 09:36 |
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"No of course she's not sacked, she's been promoted to, uh..." *grabs random sheet of paper from desk and reads it* "Shadow Home Secretary? Bloody hell, Nick's not going to be happy about this."
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# ? May 9, 2021 09:45 |
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quote:Fundamentally, Labour needs to [...] untie itself from those who offer slogans and sentiment as a substitute for hard policy thinking and voter connection. Gorgeous.
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# ? May 9, 2021 09:55 |
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keep punching joe posted:Tbh if I was leader of the Labour Party that's what I 'd do. Isn't that also true for the leader of the Tory Party?
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multijoe posted:It's incredible how this man seems to be the pure essence of an insincere, incompetent middle manager. People were joking yesterday about it being spun as as a positive move to a front of house position and that's literally what he's done We all love our bosses awoooo
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# ? May 9, 2021 09:57 |
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So Labour could not even manage to get a single frontbench spokesperson on Marr three days after the largest set of elections until the next GE, one of the few times people are more clued into Westminster politics? They are failing even by their own measure of “competent” managerialism.
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Halisnacks posted:So Labour could not even manage to get a single frontbench spokesperson on Marr three days after the largest set of elections until the next GE, one of the few times people are more clued into Westminster politics? Rayner was booked to be on apparently lmao
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# ? May 9, 2021 09:59 |
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they're still trying to work out who's on the frontbench now tbf
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# ? May 9, 2021 09:59 |
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sebzilla posted:"No of course she's not sacked, she's been promoted to, uh..." "Erm, Leader of the opposition.Wait? What?"
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# ? May 9, 2021 10:05 |
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Yeah Rayner was scheduled. Instead McDonnell has gone on and stuck the boot in a bit.
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# ? May 9, 2021 10:06 |
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I’ve always found it a bit baffling that centrists portrayed Starmer as some suave underrated hottie, but nonetheless my god does he look like poo poo now compared to just a year ago
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serious gaylord posted:Yeah Rayner was scheduled. Instead McDonnell has gone on and stuck the boot in a bit. How the gently caress did they let him on? surely you would tackle him before he got near the studio?
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# ? May 9, 2021 10:08 |
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OwlFancier posted:How the gently caress did they let him on? surely you would tackle him before he got near the studio? Wpuld you want be the admin tasked with tackling Big John?
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https://twitter.com/FisherAndrew79/status/1391308303200829440 Seems like a good idea to let him on imo.
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OwlFancier posted:How the gently caress did they let him on? surely you would tackle him before he got near the studio? I'd like to see someone try to tackle Big John "Arm" McDonnell efb
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Genuinely did he just lurk around the back door of the studio or something lmao? I cannot begin to imagine how the leaders office could possibly have thought mcdonnel is the best person to send to talk to the press. I know for a fact that keir drives a big rear end car and is not afraid to run people over in it.
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# ? May 9, 2021 10:13 |
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OwlFancier posted:Genuinely did he just lurk around the back door of the studio or something lmao? I cannot begin to imagine how the leaders office could possibly have thought mcdonnel is the best person to send to talk to the press. Him today and Corbyns wonderful interview yesterday are brilliant tbf.
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serious gaylord posted:https://twitter.com/FisherAndrew79/status/1391308303200829440 More absolutely impeccable media management from the Grown Up Opposition
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# ? May 9, 2021 10:14 |
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Diane Abbott was on Sky News doing the same. It’s hilarious how inept the party ghouls are at keeping a tab on their enemies
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# ? May 9, 2021 10:14 |
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https://twitter.com/Martin_Abrams/status/1391315902189248515?s=20 Just shoot yourself in the head mate. You're done. Absolutely loving savaged.
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OwlFancier posted:Genuinely did he just lurk around the back door of the studio or something lmao? I cannot begin to imagine how the leaders office could possibly have thought mcdonnel is the best person to send to talk to the press. my guess would be the producers tried to get someone from the frontbench to come on but starmer couldn't decide which of them were currently sacked or not, so they ended up ringing around for other people to fill the slot
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# ? May 9, 2021 10:16 |
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Labours net result: Lost 301 council seats. 283 more than what caused the Chicken Coup.
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