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It has turned out fortunate for me today that destiny has appointed up north to be my birthplace. E: 
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Earlier in Jones' livestream big John was just laying into Mandelson. It's legitimately great. I hope he's untouchable for a long, long time because he's a brilliant analyst and genuinely scathing when the gloves come off
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May 9, 2021 12:52
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Disappointing we haven’t had a Kieth Downfall video yet
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May 9, 2021 13:02
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^^^ If I could be arsed I'd do the invincible 'think, mark' meme but with Corbyn and Kieth. Except the replies would be full of that guy going 'uh, you know that would make Corbyn the bad guy right?'  "Think Kieth! Any other leader would be twenty points ahead!" Josef bugman posted:The thing that boggles me is that they appear to be doing this to anyone left of like akehurst. If you are going to purge you need to do it one faction at a time. Instead this is just incompetent flailing. This will be backed up by the media conveniently switching between Labour being a unified voting bloc of working class racists (when it wants to blame the red wall for turning on Corbyn), and a party split between sensible 'centrists' and the loony left (when it wants to excuse kieth or whoever's next for not winning back the red wall). Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 13:10 on May 9, 2021 |
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May 9, 2021 13:04
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namesake posted:Saudi Paul is partially responsible for the hospital closure though. A big reason Labour can't recover is that most of the big names that get media attention are just as pro-austerity and pro-privatisation as the Tories ever were and so without a very public split there's no way to convince large amounts of the public that the left will legislate in a left way. Exactly. A lot of the current problems (as seen by the mass shedding of votes from the heartlands during the New Labour era) are because these places enthusiastically voted for a Labour government after 18 years of Conservative rule and then effectively got diddly-squat in return. You saw it in the early Corbyn years, when TV interviewers and journalists would respond to new policies against - say - privatisation of the NHS - with "but it was Labour that ramped up the PFIs etc. etc.". And they're right. But policy-wise Labour in 2015-2019 were effectively an entirely different party from Labour in 1997-2010. Maybe some high-profile repudiations of specific New Labour policies and some purging of prominent Blairites in the early days would have got that message across. As it was Labour were faced with the uphill battle of being trusted to do any of the great stuff they talked about because all the evidence was that 'a Labour government' was no better than the Conservatives. And under Starmer of course they seemed a lot worse because they were trying to be sensible while the Tories give the money tree a good shaking and bring the local airport back into public ownership. Left-wing policies like nationalisation of infrastructure, higher wages, community regrowth and environmentalism may consistently poll well but only when they're not explicitly flagged as 'Labour policies'.
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May 9, 2021 13:07
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The face when you can't hold pints or point at things any more.
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May 9, 2021 13:17
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Azza Bamboo posted:It has turned out fortunate for me today that destiny has appointed up north to be my birthplace. Been meaning to say, I'm glad to see you back itt Azza.
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May 9, 2021 13:23
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If I didn't know this man and you asked me to guess his occupation, for some reason he looks like the platonic ideal of the owner of a strip club.
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May 9, 2021 13:28
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Just caught BBC news on the radio, they're still uncritically reporting that Rayner was sacked  Was far too drunk to post last night but thanks all for keeping me up laughing hysterically til like 3am Maugrim posted:Been meaning to say, I'm glad to see you back itt Azza. 
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May 9, 2021 13:36
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Hell yeah Azza cartoons are back.
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May 9, 2021 13:39
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your honour i still think i should be able to see them on weekends at least, please your honour
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May 9, 2021 13:43
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Thanks. I took a break from politics after things turned rather gloomy. This came after I left the Labour party, when I saw that the man I voted for leader turned out to be a wreck. The final straw was when I could see that he was going to equivocate on trans rights; it's an issue that affects a number of my closest IRL friends personally. Regrets are useless, though. The decision was to spend time working on my own happiness, not to be defeated. I lost a stone, took up the habit of reading, DMed a DnD campaign for my closest friends. Life has been good. I came back here now because I feel like my happiness isn't tied to political fortunes any more. It's a good place to fight from. I also came back now because this moment in Labour history is hilarious and I wanted to share it with you.
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May 9, 2021 13:45
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smellmycheese posted:Disappointing we haven’t had a Kieth Downfall video yet Kieth simply doesn't have the passion to be Hitler.
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May 9, 2021 13:46
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https://twitter.com/lukeakehurst/status/1391371484921311235 Labour needs to win back the Green vote by purging Momentum, apparently.
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May 9, 2021 13:48
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Weird result. The home of the Cotswold Cameron Clarkson Set has decided they like Keith https://twitter.com/BritainElects/status/1391360916231532544
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May 9, 2021 13:50
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https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1391374851345207298 Such strong leadership.
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May 9, 2021 13:54
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jabby posted:https://twitter.com/lukeakehurst/status/1391371484921311235 He's not wrong that rightwing liberals would also vote for Greens but lol for trying to make that argument from his position. Lockleaze in Bristol has also declared and its gone from 2 Labour to 2 Green - this is the seat where the originally selected candidates were suspended from the party after demanding a terrible regional manager be sacked and that same office parachuted in absolute nobodies (not even based in the area) as replacements so I think there's a more obvious explanation for a lot of these losses to the Greens.... smellmycheese posted:Weird result. The home of the Cotswold Cameron Clarkson Set has decided they like Keith Eh, unless you know the area and the candidates there's little to be gained from mapping a local result onto a national scale. The overall moves are important but there's plenty of space for purely local reasons to determine a seat. Edit: To undermine my own point I made about Lockleaze the Greens are making gains across Bristol. namesake fucked around with this message at 13:58 on May 9, 2021 |
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May 9, 2021 13:56
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namesake posted:He's not wrong that rightwing liberals would also vote for Greens but lol for trying to make that argument from his position. Greens took 2 out of 3 Ashley seats, with the remaining going to the decent socialist Labour candidate. Funny that. I didn’t get any leaflets, door knocks, anything from Labour.
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May 9, 2021 14:10
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Surely there are worse anti labour posters complaining about having the wrong sort of people living near you? Miftan posted:Hell yeah Azza cartoons are back. 
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May 9, 2021 14:11
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I saw some population map posted in the last couple of days which basically said that young professionals are getting out of London at a younger age so they can have a place in the Home Counties instead of sleeping 4 to a room in zone 6, and that they're having an impact on the traditionally tory composition of those areas.
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May 9, 2021 14:12
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I havent seen any data to back this up but I reckon young people have overwhelmingly gone Green based on these results.
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May 9, 2021 14:16
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Graun blaming Corbyn / Covid / GE2019 not Starmer but with quite a lot of hedging on the subject of 'Starmer needs to pull his finger out'. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/may/09/keir-srarmer-act-urgently-rescue-labour-from-plight And exactly whose fault is it that Starmer's cabinet has no 'big hitters' in it? He appoints them after all!
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May 9, 2021 14:17
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Extreme JEB! vibes
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May 9, 2021 14:20
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Graun blaming Corbyn / Covid / GE2019 not Starmer but with quite a lot of hedging on the subject of 'Starmer needs to pull his finger out'. That’s the Observer, not the Guardian. They’re the completely deluded ones. The Guardian are only 95% deluded.
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May 9, 2021 14:23
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Anyway, results are in, Khan won, more comfortably than it was looking yesterday Second term for Sadiq Khan and his invention,
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May 9, 2021 14:24
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Yes, looking very good for the Greens in Bristol, they're taking quite a few seats today. They've also just elected an 18yr old councillor 
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May 9, 2021 14:26
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Btw, my friend who'd been strong-armed into standing as a Green councillor didn't win, though she takes satisfaction from beating the slimy Lib Dem youth kid who pressured her to drop out of the race. She's very relieved she doesn't have to do the job.
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May 9, 2021 14:28
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Necrothatcher posted:Btw, my friend who'd been strong-armed into standing as a Green councillor didn't win, though she takes satisfaction from beating the slimy Lib Dem youth kid who pressured her to drop out of the race. She's very relieved she doesn't have to do the job. Local councilor seems like one of those jobs that is absolutely soul-destroying to do well but incredibly rewarding (at least financially) to do shittily. A good councilor is basically doing nothing but having to fight for people in the very worst of situations in between being blamed because someone spoke a foreign language in the shop. A poo poo one just turns up to one meeting every six months to pick up their money and rakes in the bribes from property developer.
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May 9, 2021 15:09
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Where the gently caress is my reshuffle? Dammit, I want to be entertained
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May 9, 2021 15:13
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Local councilor seems like one of those jobs that is absolutely soul-destroying to do well but incredibly rewarding (at least financially) to do shittily. A good councilor is basically doing nothing but having to fight for people in the very worst of situations in between being blamed because someone spoke a foreign language in the shop. A poo poo one just turns up to one meeting every six months to pick up their money and rakes in the bribes from property developer. Depends what you mean by 'local councillor'. Round here, you have to be a County Councillor to get paid - I think it's around £13k pa If you are a Town Councillor it is unpaid (other than for expenses). You get nothing except incessant complaints about Dog Poo, Litter, and 17 year olds driving round the streets like maniacs. (Plus of course 20 million complaints about things that you really can't do anything about because they come under County not Town responsibilities). Oh and the relocation of the kids' playground which is costing £85k and which half the town can't see why it needs doing as it's been in its current location for literally decades (before I was born!) and all the Yummy Mummies want their offspring to be playing within eyesight of Waitrose.
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May 9, 2021 15:16
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Remember that Bristol Momentum did a campaign strike for all but about three Labour council candidates due to how badly South West Regional had treated CLPs there. That explains a lot of the Green surge. In other news: https://twitter.com/sh44sti/status/1391354323494387712?s=21
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May 9, 2021 15:18
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https://twitter.com/Atrios/status/1391328798684106753
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May 9, 2021 15:19
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Miftan posted:Hell yeah Azza cartoons are back.
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May 9, 2021 15:22
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So in the timeline where 2019 still happened, but RLB beat Starmer for the leadership - how would Labour have fared this last week?
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May 9, 2021 15:27
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Well most of the campaign would be billboards of RLB with a crudely photoshopped Hitler moustache and asking why she wants to nationalise testicles or some insane poo poo, so that'd be entertaining I guess.
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May 9, 2021 15:28
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Halisnacks posted:So in the timeline where 2019 still happened, but RLB beat Starmer for the leadership - how would Labour have fared this last week? 
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May 9, 2021 15:44
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smellmycheese posted:Weird result. The home of the Cotswold Cameron Clarkson Set has decided they like Keith Slightly proud of my birthplace. Every time I've been back as an adult I've seen STOP THE CUTS - SAVE THE NHS banners everywhere. There's a bunch of toffs that live in the ye olde Cotswold stone villages surrounding it, but the town itself has actual real people living there. Also https://twitter.com/susaneastoe/status/1391393173713391617 I was gonna be snarky about this considering it was built in the 1870s, but Bliss Mill only closed in the 1980s (before I was born) 
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May 9, 2021 15:51
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Remember when Corbyn proposed this and John McDonnell got openly mocked on air by the BBC? https://twitter.com/DailyMailUK/status/1391381202314137605
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May 9, 2021 16:11
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peanut- posted:Remember when Corbyn proposed this and John McDonnell got openly mocked on air by the BBC? One man could never plant that many trees, THIS IS BULLSHIT
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May 9, 2021 16:16
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lol labours "ridiculous" plan involved planting 100 million a year
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