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Lamuella posted:I mean they had a match last year where you won by putting your opponent's eye out. Ssh; you're not to mention things they've done.
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# ? May 26, 2024 12:40 |
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They immolated a gasoline soaked fiend
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# ? May 10, 2021 17:17 |
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If Kevin Dunn had filmed the bump you wouldn't have been able to tell it was a crash mat. You would also have never seen the bump because he would have cut to a random shot of the crowd at the time.
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# ? May 10, 2021 17:20 |
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Gonzo McFee posted:You would also have never seen the bump because he would have cut to a random shot of the crowd at the time. wow don't tell Tony Khan or he'll try to poach that guy to AEW
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# ? May 10, 2021 17:29 |
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Someone post the WWE version of stadium stampede gif Also, the talk about the Rock being successful in Hollywood has been mentioned but when did he actually become successful? Fast Five is where I always say he became the megastar he is now in but that wasn't until 2011. His first movies were early early 2000s and most of those movies I don't think were that big?
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# ? May 10, 2021 17:41 |
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Rock became “successful” in Hollywood almost immediately in the sense of being a working actor consistently getting booked multiple times a year in all kinds of projects, big and small. It’s an attitude he’s never really given up, even today.
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# ? May 10, 2021 17:44 |
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Dimebags Brain posted:On an anecdotal level, every single person I know who watched during the attitude era and quit watching cites Triple H as their reason for quitting.It's actually funny how consistent it is. I know it's not data but he feels like the biggest anti-draw in wrestling history. I'll also include the nWo in that, too; my thought at the time that the Invasion sucked and didn't make any sense but bringing back the SPECIFIC angle that WCW had run into the ground, nah, that was enough.
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# ? May 10, 2021 17:44 |
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I thought the Scorpion King was specifically created as a Rock Vehicle.
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# ? May 10, 2021 17:46 |
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TV Zombie posted:I thought the Scorpion King was specifically created as a Rock Vehicle. It was, but at the time it was a modest diversion in a summer tentpole franchise...like a Rogue One or something.
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# ? May 10, 2021 17:49 |
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It's more he just stuck with it, had the look,work ethic etc and grinding it out with movie after movie that kept him in it. I'm probably just hold the word 'successful ' to high and narrow in my mind. And yes Scorpion King had to be since it was him doing the cgi one in The Mummy.
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# ? May 10, 2021 17:49 |
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Iskanderson posted:"That set the business back 30 years! Anyway, here's your Wrestlemania guest host, Hulk Hogan!"
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# ? May 10, 2021 18:07 |
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Digital Jedi posted:Someone post the WWE version of stadium stampede gif I recall reading that he changed his management/representation at some point which started getting him better projects than stuff like the Tooth Fairy movie he was in Fast Five does seem to be the line where he went from general action guy to megastar. He worked pretty regularly in the 00s but completely blew up in the 2010s.
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# ? May 10, 2021 18:31 |
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Digital Jedi posted:It's more he just stuck with it, had the look,work ethic etc and grinding it out with movie after movie that kept him in it. I feel like a lot of Rock's success in Hollywood was him either having a really good instinct for picking scripts or having a really good agent to do it for him.
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# ? May 10, 2021 18:34 |
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Prokhor Zakharov posted:I feel like a lot of Rock's success in Hollywood was him either having a really good instinct for picking scripts or having a really good agent to do it for him. Also he was given glowing recommendations by every director he worked for which goes a long way in Hollywood
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# ? May 10, 2021 18:40 |
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Digital Jedi posted:Someone post the WWE version of stadium stampede gif Taking a look at his filmography before Fast Five... Walking Tall was fairly well liked at the time. I remember Be Cool had a fair amount of hype but I don't think anyone actually remembers the movie. Get Smart was a pretty big success, wasn't it? Disney played Race to Witch Mountain a bunch on tv so lol I guess that one was a success for them. Fast Five was definitely his breakout point, but leading up to that you can see him slowly becoming a bigger and more successful name. And yeah, like Digital Jedi said, he had the worth ethic and the grind to stick with it and keep at it until he finally blew up.
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# ? May 10, 2021 18:46 |
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The Disney films were actually more successful than the early Rundown/Walking Tall era of b-level action films, though some of those were pretty successful (Scorpion King did $181M on a $60M budget). But the family films no one I know watched all made more money than the post-Scorpion King/Pre-F&F action stuff: Race to Witch Mountain: $50M budget, $106M worldwide Tooth Fairy: $48M budget, $113M worldwide The Game Plan: $22M budget, $147M worldwide Journey 2: The Mysterious Island: $80M budget, $335M worldwide Fast Five obviously put him into the A-List for action movies, but he's kept doing stuff like Moana and Jumanji to keep a foot planted in the family film market too. And yeah, just the work ethic and the willingness to do family films, action films, comedy bit parts in Be Cool/Get Smart, I think all of that sort of snowballed into studios really pushing him even when stuff like the GI Joe movie underperformed. Edge & Christian fucked around with this message at 18:50 on May 10, 2021 |
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Terrible movie but I think the moment I knew Rock was going to be a huge star was Be Cool which came out in 2005. Kind of a small role but he stands out as far and away the best part of that awful sequel to Get Shorty.
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The behind the scenes stuff from scorpion king showed him actually trying to learn acting. That probably helps a ton.
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# ? May 10, 2021 18:51 |
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All the interviews people do with his relations seems like he’s extremely hard-working on and offset, and kind. Which is a miracle after working for Vince for so many years, maybe it was just relief that nobody on site is going to change an entire page of dialogue with 10 minutes notice. (Instead it will be several hours notice.)
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# ? May 10, 2021 18:57 |
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The Rock was good in Tooth Fairy and only Tooth Fairy
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# ? May 10, 2021 19:20 |
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Grem posted:The Rock was good in Doom and only Doom
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# ? May 10, 2021 19:21 |
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Rock's best early movie role is Reno 911 Miami
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# ? May 10, 2021 19:22 |
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Pope Corky the IX posted:They're only saying that because business partners like Mattel will never let them put on a bloodbath again. It's easy to act like you're above it if you're not even allowed to do it. There are plenty of matches from the 00s where people are loving swimming in each other's blood and that was a hell of a lot less than thirty years ago. The vast majority of their profits come from B2B deals with NBC/Universal and Fox, and that Saudi deal with each show being the equivalent of like 7 modern Wrestlemanias or something crazy like that. The thing is that they claim that WWE figures are "In the Top 3 action figure properties in the US", which is far more important to them than the revenue they bring in. Like to put some perspective on it... In 2006, 2007, and 2008 licensing represented 22%/24%/25% of their revenue. So on $526.5M of revenue in 2008, that's $131M in licensing. Which includes everything, from video games to action figures, and is a significant amount. Mattel certainly did help grow that licensing money in a big way at the time. So to say that they had to adjust the product to appease Mattel at the time made sense, because a huge chunk of their business was making a kid friendly product to sell toys to kids. In 2019 licensing represented 4.5% of their revenue. Which is $43.2M out of $960.4M of total revenue for the year. In 2020 licensing represented 4.2% of their revenue. Which is $41.7M out of $974.2 of total revenue for the year. So how much of that is action figures? Half? To hold back the quality of your show because of the toy line that makes a fraction of your profits is stupid.
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# ? May 10, 2021 19:28 |
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Grem posted:The Rock was good in Tooth Fairy and only Tooth Fairy ive heard this is a cute and good movie but i havent seen it
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# ? May 10, 2021 19:30 |
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Vandar posted:Taking a look at his filmography before Fast Five... Be Cool was huge for him because his role wasn't action-oriented and showed off his comedy chops; I recall him being incredibly well-received with that role.
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# ? May 10, 2021 19:31 |
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Golden Bee posted:All the interviews people do with his relations seems like he’s extremely hard-working on and offset, and kind. Which is a miracle after working for Vince for so many years, maybe it was just relief that nobody on site is going to change an entire page of dialogue with 10 minutes notice. (Instead it will be several hours notice.) It's probably easier to be hard-working and kind on set when you don't get hazed by your coworkers to "pay dues"
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# ? May 10, 2021 19:32 |
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Dacap posted:I recall reading that he changed his management/representation at some point which started getting him better projects than stuff like the Tooth Fairy movie he was in
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# ? May 10, 2021 20:04 |
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Spiderdrake posted:My understanding is his representation changed to his now ex-wife in 2008 and she is acknowledged as a huge part of his success. That tracks when you see the breakout happened for him around 2010/11 when a lot of those movies would’ve started production in 2008/9
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# ? May 10, 2021 21:07 |
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Batista in Knives Out 2 https://deadline.com/2021/05/dave-bautista-daniel-craig-rian-johnsons-knives-out-2-netflix-1234752608/
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# ? May 10, 2021 21:13 |
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Grem posted:The Rock was good in Pain & Gain and only Pain & Gain
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# ? May 10, 2021 22:08 |
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Considering that "Pro Wrestler" occupies the middle of a Venn diagram consisting of "Body Builder", "Stuntperson" and "Improv Theater Nerd" I'm surprised that there aren't more breakout former pro wrestlers than there are. The Rock, I think, is definitely pushed ahead of the pack due to a combination of having enormous personal magnetism and charm, while still coming off like a genuinely nice guy. He has the rare ability to appear incredibly cocky and yet likable at the same time. His mic work and character when working for the WWF has definitely informed his later acting career, and as mentioned before his comedy chops are undeniable. I've not seen all of his films, but I've never seen him in a role where he didn't stand out due to sheer screen presence, and he seems to be a positive addition to anything he's in regardless of genre. Also this scene in the first of the new Jumanji movies is the biggest swerve from surprisingly touching to utterly hilarious I've seen and makes me laugh so hard I make honking noises every loving time.
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# ? May 10, 2021 22:20 |
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https://twitter.com/KingRicochet/status/1391881925015506946?s=20 These guys are shooting and editing their own video packages now aren’t they
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JUNGLE BOY posted:https://twitter.com/KingRicochet/status/1391881925015506946?s=20 #noonecares
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# ? May 10, 2021 23:41 |
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JUNGLE BOY posted:https://twitter.com/KingRicochet/status/1391881925015506946?s=20 countdown to wwe taking one down for using their intellectual property
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# ? May 10, 2021 23:42 |
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Oh my god is this because Mansoor isn't on main event anymore
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Majinfoose posted:#noonecares
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# ? May 10, 2021 23:48 |
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Velveteen Dream is apparently backstage at Raw
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# ? May 11, 2021 00:59 |
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Dacap posted:Velveteen Dream is apparently backstage at Raw I hope they are shooting an episode of To Catch a Predator at the thunder dome.
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# ? May 11, 2021 01:02 |
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CopywrightMMXI posted:I hope they are shooting an episode of To Catch a Predator at the thunder dome. My dog is dying, I did my 400th funeral this year today, and this made me laugh so loud I woke my dog up. So thanks for that. Dark humor is the only humor right now Chris James 2 posted:Batista in Knives Out 2 https://deadline.com/2021/05/dave-bautista-daniel-craig-rian-johnsons-knives-out-2-netflix-1234752608/ That feels like a huge step down for him
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It is nuts really that Batista is a bigger star and better actor than the Rock, I never would have called that I love Big Dave
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