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Evil Fluffy posted:I'm running Citra since the graphic options are normally better than just using a 3DS and it's less work but what's the deal with load screens dropping to a near total freeze? I never had that issue with Joker 3 when I played it awhile back. Jade Rider posted:I got the same issue with the loading when I tried Citra, I didn't even get to the Desert world before I bit the bullet and put it on my modded 3DS. Anything newer than nightly 1524 is going to run like rear end. I think there were some changes to shaders or something that causes that issue. Playing on a 3ds is better anyway for online stuff.
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Oxxidation posted:between this guy and artyom from the Metro series i'm just done with silent protagonists in general unless they're exceedingly good at mime I still think the best use of a silent protagonist I've seen is in Mother 3, where it's sort of a meta thing. You control multiple characters throughout the game, and while you're controlling a character, they're a silent protagonist. When they're not under your control, though, they have dialogue like anyone else. It's a fun twist on the "this is you right now and so you imagine all their dialogue" thing. I think it's used pretty effectively to identify the player with their main character there.
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Tbf that’s generally how Dragon Quest works in the handful of instances where it comes up. poo poo, that’s kind of how 4 works in each person’s chapter, although I think Alena gets normal party chat dialogue and probably Maya/Meena do too. And I guess Torneko appraises every item you can find in his chapter even if he doesn’t talk, so I guess Mother 3 commits a lot harder.
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YggiDee posted:Dragon Quest heroes aren't very expressive as a whole but Eleven is noticeably stonefaced compared to Eight. It's not as bad in the other games just because a silent protagonist doesn't stand out as much in a game with no voice acting. But, I mean, Link has no voice in BotW but he still emotes. It also doesn't help that Eleven is outshone by the entire rest of the party. The real kicker is that at one point you encounter a younger version of Eleven, and he talks! Given how the entire rest of the game is "Did you like the rest of the series? Here have a reference.", I am pretty certain that happened because exactly that same thing happened in V (meeting your younger self, who talks like any other NPC).
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Evil Fluffy posted:I'm running Citra since the graphic options are normally better than just using a 3DS and it's less work but what's the deal with load screens dropping to a near total freeze? I never had that issue with Joker 3 when I played it awhile back. Jade Rider posted:I got the same issue with the loading when I tried Citra, I didn't even get to the Desert world before I bit the bullet and put it on my modded 3DS. spacebard posted:Anything newer than nightly 1524 is going to run like rear end. I think there were some changes to shaders or something that causes that issue. Playing on a 3ds is better anyway for online stuff. Like spacebard said, use version 1524, and also make sure your audio emulation is set to HLE. It's the default setting, but I went poking at things before I started and the game would constantly slow down or stall until I figured that one out. Now it runs seamlessly in most areas at 3x internal resolution and 200% speed  The online content has some nice perks, but on the other hand the game upscales pretty well. I had originally planned to bounce my save between my PC and 3DS to get the best of both worlds, but ended up playing through both the main and post game purely on Citra.    I named the slime family Yagooza
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Good, we need some updates on the new DQM and Adventures of Dai games, among whatever else they're working on that isn't a F2P mobile game. snohax posted:Like spacebard said, use version 1524, and also make sure your audio emulation is set to HLE. It's the default setting, but I went poking at things before I started and the game would constantly slow down or stall until I figured that one out. Now it runs seamlessly in most areas at 3x internal resolution and 200% speed Thanks, I'll swap to 1524 then. I hadn't even thought about online content for the game but I'll check that out at some point too I guess.
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Harrow posted:I still think the best use of a silent protagonist I've seen is in Mother 3, where it's sort of a meta thing. You control multiple characters throughout the game, and while you're controlling a character, they're a silent protagonist. When they're not under your control, though, they have dialogue like anyone else. It's a fun twist on the "this is you right now and so you imagine all their dialogue" thing. I think it's used pretty effectively to identify the player with their main character there. Golden Sun/2 did that also but it was weirder there.
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Lmao I still love the random line that Felix does have in Golden Sun the lost age, it's like they forgot that he was excited protagonist but just for literally that one text box I think it's something mundane like "why?" But it's still jarring because it's popped randomly in like hour 20 out of 40. It's even weirder because he was pretty vocal in the first and last acts of the prequel Golden Sun is just so stupid in so many other ways but I remember really liking it back then KingSlime fucked around with this message at 01:48 on May 14, 2021 |
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Threw some money at getting the physical release of I-III on the Switch, and have started my "Let's play through the mainline in order until I burn out!" moods I get in every now and then. First game, it's the same as ever and its barebones grind is as soothing as ever. But....not sure how I'm feeling about these visuals. Like, it doesn't look awful, but the character sprites and the world just don't quite feel like they are meant to go together.
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Evil Fluffy posted:I'm running Citra since the graphic options are normally better than just using a 3DS and it's less work but what's the deal with load screens dropping to a near total freeze? I never had that issue with Joker 3 when I played it awhile back. On the subject of Joker 3, something I found out the other day is that while there's a translation patch that covers the base game only, someone has since come up with a patch for Pro that uses the base game's translation patch plus a machine translation for Joker 3 Professional's additional content.
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Hmmm, there are 12 leaves in the logo. I hope DQ12 gets announced but going to keep expectations in check.
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AngryRobotsInc posted:Threw some money at getting the physical release of I-III on the Switch, and have started my "Let's play through the mainline in order until I burn out!" moods I get in every now and then. First game, it's the same as ever and its barebones grind is as soothing as ever. But....not sure how I'm feeling about these visuals. Like, it doesn't look awful, but the character sprites and the world just don't quite feel like they are meant to go together. I honestly only have one real problem with DQ1, and that is the Heal and Harm spells no scaling well. Heal especially starts well enough, but by level 10 it's not healing enough anymore and Healmore doesn't come until 17 or so. I wish that there were a Heal, Healmore at mid-level and Healmost at high level, with a similar thing for Hurt. At every level, Hurt should do more damage than a simple attack. I would base it off attack power but with sizeable bonus.
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So does the 3DS remake of DQM2 just use the exact same breeding charts as the original (except for your new custom monster?) or are there resources somewhere for the 3DS version? While looking for info I came across the DQM2 remake for PSX and goddamn, the sprite art for that version looks amazing.
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Evil Fluffy posted:So does the 3DS remake of DQM2 just use the exact same breeding charts as the original (except for your new custom monster?) or are there resources somewhere for the 3DS version? The remake builds on the Joker series system, and as such it's a completely different breeding system from the originals, with only a small handful of specific recipes being the same. There's a decent guide on GameFAQs for playing through the story, which was written before any translation existed, but for breeding and such the best resource by far is this document which the translation team and community put together: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1V7Q_sovR-j0ir9FKEVW_-T9O_SDPitdgQ_tntd0cl74/edit#gid=1397823174
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AngryRobotsInc posted:But....not sure how I'm feeling about these visuals. Like, it doesn't look awful, but the character sprites and the world just don't quite feel like they are meant to go together. Pretty sure the background tiles are from DQ6/3r. I think the sprites were new for the mobile ports, and the Switch versions appear to be ports of those. They also appear to run at 30fps, which would drive me insane. The silky-smooth SFC remakes are still king. JustJeff88 posted:I honestly only have one real problem with DQ1, and that is the Heal and Harm spells no scaling well. Heal especially starts well enough, but by level 10 it's not healing enough anymore and Healmore doesn't come until 17 or so. I wish that there were a Heal, Healmore at mid-level and Healmost at high level, with a similar thing for Hurt. At every level, Hurt should do more damage than a simple attack. I would base it off attack power but with sizeable bonus. This always bothered me too. The mid-game you basically play as the Soldier class (minus the utility spells like Radiant and Outside). Scaling hurt/heal probably isn't necessary, but the overall experience could've been greatly improved by adding mid-range spells around lv 10-12. I guess they ran out of ROM space for that, it was a 1986 game after all Ofecks fucked around with this message at 00:34 on May 15, 2021 |
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finally done with DQ11's main story at 84 hours. i'm not going to bother with the last couple tockle quests or the superbosses good experience overall and most of the cast was a delight, but i was mostly checked out by act 3. i didn't have a lot of investment in the plot to begin with whenever sylvando wasn't talking, and as many others have said, act 3 gutted the story's few points of interest in favor of something even more tediously saccharine. and the final boss looked stupid! he looked really really stupid! i thought rhapthorne was bad but this guy was a giant baby-robot with perfect cell's color scheme and it was stupid! i know that dragon quest as a series isn't much for profound villains but 11's roster felt pretty weak compared to the roaming body-snatching terror of DQ8's scepter. the closest thing we had to a recurring badguy who wasn't just a slavering force of corrupt evil was jasper, and even he only had a handful of scenes. props to one "villain" though for actually getting a solid redemption. krystalina reacting to the failure of her last ruse by going "it's a fair cop" and moving on to become the queen's confidante/wife might make her one of the smartest baddies in jrpg history Oxxidation fucked around with this message at 07:36 on May 17, 2021 |
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DQVIII is really the only game in the series that had you interact with the main antagonist with any sort of regularity. I think IV is the next closest but you still only see Psaro a few times compared to constantly chasing after the scepter. Most of the time the focus is more along each towns little story.
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Yeah, Dragon Quest villains are generally of the classic "Villain shows up twice to go WAHAHAHA then sit in their evil castle the entire rest of the time" Shout out to the Dragonlord for being the classic version who refuses to lift a finger, even in Builders 1.
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Harrow posted:I still think the best use of a silent protagonist I've seen is in Mother 3, where it's sort of a meta thing. You control multiple characters throughout the game, and while you're controlling a character, they're a silent protagonist. When they're not under your control, though, they have dialogue like anyone else. It's a fun twist on the "this is you right now and so you imagine all their dialogue" thing. I think it's used pretty effectively to identify the player with their main character there. Golden Sun did something kind've similar in that the main protagonist didn't talk in their game. So you reach lost age and Felix is mostly mute until the ending and Issac goes from being mute to being one of the chattiest protagonists.
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Unlocked the ability to make keys yesterday in DQM2 and while it took awhile I eventually got one of those keys to have the S rank money enemy in it. I'm glad I had kacrackle and kaboomble on a couple of characters and aurora breath/big bang on my montner because goddamn those enemies get a lot of HP as you max out the key. Fast forward through a bunch of gold farming and xp grind/breeding and those things definitely die much faster when you have Zoma double AOEing them and a heart slime knight with uber breath who juse uses deep breath + ice age for 500+ damage to everything. I hope the upcoming DQM game switches some stuff around though. I can understand why they do the size thing for monsters but so many larger monsters just aren't worth it (except as enemies who ruin your poo poo, loving leviathans  ). Sure, Dragonlord 2 can get 1-3 actions when left to their own devices but Zoma and a bunch of other small units get 1-2 actions as well so it's 2-4 actions vs 1-3 and while units like DL2 get a boost to skill damage (supposedly) I'm just not seeing the value there for a lot of 2-space units. I haven't messed with Rebirth much yet so maybe they really shine when min-maxed in that system.
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Evil Fluffy posted:Unlocked the ability to make keys yesterday in DQM2 and while it took awhile I eventually got one of those keys to have the S rank money enemy in it. I'm glad I had kacrackle and kaboomble on a couple of characters and aurora breath/big bang on my montner because goddamn those enemies get a lot of HP as you max out the key. Fast forward through a bunch of gold farming and xp grind/breeding and those things definitely die much faster when you have Zoma double AOEing them and a heart slime knight with uber breath who juse uses deep breath + ice age for 500+ damage to everything. 2-space is definitely the most awkward to use. The full list of benefits for Big Hitter are:
Of these, the damage bonus that scales with missing HP is the only thing unique to the size, since 3- and 4-space monsters get scaled-up versions of everything else, along with other, more obvious benefits like built-in aoe on most attacks. There's some gimmick builds which use Dead Obsession or Close Call plus luck boosters to survive at 0-1 HP and hit back with the full x2 bonus, but in PvP these have the fatal flaw of being bypassed entirely by Co-Op attacks, and Chain is a big part of the meta. Rebirth, in addition to a 20% stat boost across the board, lets you swap one of the species' normal traits with almost anything else from the other parent, and that limitation of only being able to replace one trait is what really keeps 2-space monsters from being completely unviable, since some monsters just have a good enough set of base traits and resistances to justify the extra slot. On the whole, you're right about action economy winning out. The extra action traits carry a hefty stat penalty, but even with that most of the top competitive teams are 4 standard or small body monsters with 7+ actions between them. There's also been some 3-space+1 teams, and a few of the 4-space monsters are very popular and can be competitive, but 2-space is few and far between. The ability to hit the whole field and a more reliable damage boost just makes it far easier to justify the fewer actions. Their stat growths do tend to be significantly higher than a standard monster, and they'll pass part of those growths down to their kids regardless of size. So they're much more useful when you're playing through the story and nowhere near hitting stat caps. Just a shame they fall off in usefulness after that. I'm guessing the next DQM game will change at least some of the mechanics significantly. Joker 3 ditched the one trait swap rule for rebirth entirely. Instead, each monster had a single signature trait that can't be changed, and each trait had an assigned point value. You could swap non-signature traits freely as long as you didn't go over the point budget for the monster's size. In the mobile remake of DQM2, technically the newest entry in the series, they added the ability to use the swapped trait to rebirth monsters as any size, instead of just sizing them up to 2- or 3-space, and also added crests which let you boost a stat and the effects of a limited number of traits on each monster. While the new game could pull from either of these, my current bet is it uses none of the above and has a different system entirely. snohax fucked around with this message at 06:10 on May 24, 2021 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfmOWgfYVjY I hope XI-S goes on sale in addition to something more exciting than that. v Thanks, I'll probably nab it if it doesn't budge on Switch. Kobogartimer fucked around with this message at 21:25 on May 26, 2021 |
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Kobogartimer posted:I hope XI-S goes on sale in addition to something more exciting than that. Dragon Quest XI-S is on sale on Epic, $15.99 after the $10 off coupon.
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english stream is about to start here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfmOWgfYVjY jp stream already in progress, talking about things you won't be able to buy outside of japan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9SQAaRMOzw
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Boo still no plans for worldwide release of the MMO.
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"There are no plans for a worldwide release" lmao
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Good, it looks like poo poo, like the diamond/Pearl remake do. The only reason anybody ever like super deformed graphics is because it was the only thing available
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Dragon Quest 3 but Octopath Traveler remake. Hopefully comes here.
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Good, it looks like poo poo, like the diamond/Pearl remake do. The only reason anybody ever like super deformed graphics is because it was the only thing available I think that was the new offline version they're making. The actual MMO looks decent. Oh and I guess a DQ 3 remake because we needed one of those?
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Oh poo poo, Octopath Traveler-style HD DQ3 remake.
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