|
gleebster posted:That said, I ate at a diner yesterday and was as nervous as a cat the whole time. This "other people" stuff is going to take a while to get used to again. I went to see Hamilton a couple of weeks ago and while I was OK in the theatre, I was really anxious about eating at the venue. A community case was discovered a few days later and the patient had been to a large amount of locations. Fortunately, the casino wasn't one of them.
|
#
?
May 13, 2021 21:59
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 1, 2024 17:07 |
|
|
Fluffy Bunnies posted:you mean the vaccination isn't magic? frick. Oh gently caress off (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
|
|
#
?
May 13, 2021 22:01
|
|
|
They routinely test sports teams so you’re going to see a higher rate of asymptomatic vaccinated positives there, or anywhere else where routine tests are common. It’s not unexpected and it doesn’t mean the vaccines aren’t doing what they’re supposed to do. Even a small viral load will come up positive there, it’s why recovered, noncontangious people can test positive for up to a month after they had it.
|
|
#
?
May 13, 2021 22:08
|
|
|
Fluffy Bunnies posted:we had 841 deaths yesterday and 35,000+ new cases. while numbers are trickling down in terms of infections, it's because masks are on people's faces. We are nowhere near that 60-80% fully vaccinated rate they said we needed and I assume they're just giving up because they don't think we'll get there due to the downturn in vaccination demand. What? You somehow think the current state of the pandemic means you shouldn’t be getting takeout? You are truly insane (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
|
|
#
?
May 13, 2021 22:12
|
|
gently caress I'm gonna miss takeout.
|
Fluffy Bunnies posted:Covid isn't spread through the rear end, when did it ever go off the menu? Looks like someone hasn't heard about the virus laden plumes. 
|
|
#
?
May 13, 2021 22:14
|
|
|
I know a Methodist hospital Chaplin who is the only one for our major hospital and he’s pretty much where Bunny is at at the moment too.
|
|
#
?
May 13, 2021 22:18
|
|
|
Fluffy Bunnies posted:we had 841 deaths yesterday and 35,000+ new cases. while numbers are trickling down in terms of infections, it's because masks are on people's faces. We are nowhere near that 60-80% fully vaccinated rate they said we needed and I assume they're just giving up because they don't think we'll get there due to the downturn in vaccination demand. If you have an instant pot and like butter chicken, you can make this, scroll about halfway down to get past all the terrible preamble: https://www.newyorker.com/culture/annals-of-gastronomy/the-butter-chicken-lady-who-made-indian-cooks-love-the-instant-pot I presume you don't have doordash or Uber eats that goes out where you are, you mentioned a farm?
|
|
#
?
May 13, 2021 22:38
|
|
|
That’s a fantastic recipe! I’m allergic to coconuts, and almonds, so I can’t use takeout and never thought to use the instant pot to make a proper curry.
|
|
#
?
May 13, 2021 22:43
|
|
|
God drat, my state has 65% of the population with at least one shot. Hell yea.
|
|
#
?
May 13, 2021 22:57
|
|
|
learnincurve posted:I know a Methodist hospital Chaplin who is the only one for our major hospital and he’s pretty much where Bunny is at at the moment too. Yeah, have some drat empathy people; someone choosing to be extra cautious doesn't negatively impact your life, does it?
|
|
#
?
May 13, 2021 23:00
|
|
|
Yeh I’m an arsehole but after the “I get to take a break after my 9000th funeral” post it’s clearly the old F1 saying “She’s earned the right to some space”
|
|
#
?
May 13, 2021 23:04
|
|
|
Ugly In The Morning posted:They routinely test sports teams so you’re going to see a higher rate of asymptomatic vaccinated positives there, or anywhere else where routine tests are common. It’s not unexpected and it doesn’t mean the vaccines aren’t doing what they’re supposed to do. Even a small viral load will come up positive there, it’s why recovered, noncontangious people can test positive for up to a month after they had it. What it seems to indicate (to me at least, I'm kind of an idiot) is that there are a lot more asymptomatic cases among the vaccinated than we will ever know because they have a much, much higher chance to be asymptomatic than an unvaccinated person. They are finding them in places like sports where they are tested frequently but not among the general population because they have no reason to get tested. Whether they are actually contagious or not I have no idea.
|
|
#
?
May 13, 2021 23:05
|
|
|
feel free to disagree w/ posters being overly safe for themselves or w/e but stop going on the personal attack over it here please. as we all know here in GBS, Science and Facts are some Epic Win  especially when formed in to paragraphs of arguments that ill definitely read. thanks
|
|
#
?
May 13, 2021 23:11
|
|
|
So I just got my second jab, but I lost my bandage after taking off my shirt to check if the injection area was red or swelling. I am not bleeding or anything (It was about a half hour after I got the shot), and this is dumb, but I want to make sure I didn't screw myself and now I got Turbo COVID or something. Anyway, feeling okay so far.
|
|
#
?
May 13, 2021 23:28
|
|
|
Conceptually the government should be able to talk to us like responsible adults, and if the truth is that vaccinated people can go around without a mask they should tell us that. I guess we'll have to see how that goes.
|
|
#
?
May 13, 2021 23:29
|
|
|
Unlucky7 posted:So I just got my second jab, but I lost my bandage after taking off my shirt to check if the injection area was red or swelling. I am not bleeding or anything (It was about a half hour after I got the shot), and this is dumb, but I want to make sure I didn't screw myself and now I got Turbo COVID or something. Nope, if the injection site is exposed to air, the vaccine will almost certainly sublimate within a matter of seconds, minutes at most. (Relax, you're fine. The bandaid is just there to prevent the occasional little bit of blood.)
|
|
#
?
May 13, 2021 23:34
|
|
|
Unlucky7 posted:So I just got my second jab, but I lost my bandage after taking off my shirt to check if the injection area was red or swelling. I am not bleeding or anything (It was about a half hour after I got the shot), and this is dumb, but I want to make sure I didn't screw myself and now I got Turbo COVID or something. the only reason they give you a bandaid at all is in case you bleed a little after the shot, has nothign to do with the efficacy of the vaccine
|
|
#
?
May 13, 2021 23:35
|
|
|
Unlucky7 posted:So I just got my second jab, but I lost my bandage after taking off my shirt to check if the injection area was red or swelling. I am not bleeding or anything (It was about a half hour after I got the shot), and this is dumb, but I want to make sure I didn't screw myself and now I got Turbo COVID or something. You might be screwed, exposure to air rapidly oxidizes the spike proteins. Spikes are typically metal as you know (needles, nails, etc) so you may get tetanus now. you're fine, its just a bandage, the vaccine is in your muscle tissue
|
|
#
?
May 13, 2021 23:35
|
|
|
ItChY tAsTEe Seriously though, thanks all 
|
|
#
?
May 13, 2021 23:42
|
|
|
AKA Pseudonym posted:Conceptually the government should be able to talk to us like responsible adults, and if the truth is that vaccinated people can go around without a mask they should tell us that. I guess we'll have to see how that goes. Like you said I think this only applies conceptually. In reality the government really should treat the people like the big dumb babies they are. Because it's been proven time and time again that that is the way the American people behave.
|
|
#
?
May 13, 2021 23:47
|
|
|
Unlucky7 posted:So I just got my second jab, but I lost my bandage after taking off my shirt to check if the injection area was red or swelling. I am not bleeding or anything (It was about a half hour after I got the shot), and this is dumb, but I want to make sure I didn't screw myself and now I got Turbo COVID or something. I'm sorry to inform you, but since you took the band aid off so soon, all the vax vapors have leaked out of your arm.
|
|
#
?
May 13, 2021 23:53
|
|
|
If they gave me a free donut everyday instead of just once then I could proudly eat my vax donut everyday I step outside as a political symbol that I could do
|
|
#
?
May 13, 2021 23:54
|
|
|
Pyrtanis posted:If you have an instant pot and like butter chicken, you can make this, scroll about halfway down to get past all the terrible preamble: No delivery of any sort. I don't actually eat meat, but my neighbor is crazy for butter chicken and I'm totally going to make this for her. And I bet I can find a lot more cool stuff to make with the instant pot I never do anything with. I'm gonna change that because of you. Thank you  AKA Pseudonym posted:Conceptually the government should be able to talk to us like responsible adults, and if the truth is that vaccinated people can go around without a mask they should tell us that. I guess we'll have to see how that goes. I agree with this, but I also look back at what we did this time last year and then look at the infections and death toll we had. I know that's without vaccines, but they touted 60-80% being the hallmark before we could do anything near like this. I'd really love for them to address why it changed so drastically and so suddenly. Are there new studies? Is there more info? If my vaccinated self is actually, really safe out and about per this new guideline, that's incredible and wonderful and I couldn't be happier. I just really want to know what we found out that changed it so much, especially like that tweet that other poster posted that has so many sick athletes with the Yankees that were fully vaccinated. Like, that other dude jumped my case but I was being legitimate when I said I wondered if maybe they're gonna be the discovery zone of yet another variant or some such. Because several have popped up and maybe this is just a new one. Sjs00 posted:If they gave me a free donut everyday instead of just once then I could proudly eat my vax donut everyday I step outside as a political symbol that I could do ...Walking back my pause on take-out until I get my donut.
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2021 00:01
|
|
|
Sooner or later businesses will relent on mandatory masking, which is a bummer, but hopefully they will allow employees to continue to wear them out of general principle (it was nice not having workplace colds and flus last year). And drat it, people making food in the kitchen should be wearing them anyway; why was that never a thing pre-covid? "You must wear a hairnet on your head and/or neck, and wear gloves, but your nose and mouth? Two major vectors for germs and contaminants? Pshaw! silly goose!"
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2021 00:03
|
|
|
that tweet read to me like "8 people associated with the yankees tested positive for covid, and one of them was a player, who was vaccinated" but this is a great example of why a single tweet conveys basically no useful information and you shouldn't take any of them at face value
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2021 00:07
|
|
|
Brimstone Inquiry posted:And drat it, people making food in the kitchen should be wearing them anyway; why was that never a thing pre-covid? "You must wear a hairnet on your head and/or neck, and wear gloves, but your nose and mouth? Two major vectors for germs and contaminants? Pshaw! silly goose!" you can see hair on your spaghetti, but maybe that blob is just some alfredo, who's to say
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2021 00:18
|
|
|
just reread the tweet and it says nothing about the vaccination status of the other 7 people who tested positive
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2021 00:19
|
|
|
Gone Fashing posted:just reread the tweet and it says nothing about the vaccination status of the other 7 people who tested positive I'll help you out here, all of them are fully vaccinated with the J+J vaccine https://www.cbsnews.com/news/yankees-covid-gleyber-torres-8-positive/ quote:The New York Yankees on Thursday said an eighth fully vaccinated member of the team has tested positive for COVID-19. MLB and the New York State Department of Health are assisting the team with the outbreak, the team said in a statement.
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2021 00:25
|
|
|
sharknado slashfic posted:I'll help you out here, all of them are fully vaccinated with the J+J vaccine Fully vaxxed after getting covid once already. Open Biden.
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2021 00:33
|
|
|
Vaccination doesn't eradicate covid from the world but it changes it from a generational historic catastrophe into just another thing in a world of things, which some people will occasionally die or get very ill from like the flu or foodborne illness or infection or a dozen other ailments, but which will not cause mass death and debilitation anymore.
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2021 00:38
|
|
|
Looks like a lot of that team was vaccinated like 4 weeks ago, JnJ's mighty Johnson graph shows you're still pretty flaccid until 6 weeks or so.
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2021 00:39
|
|
|
poll plane variant posted:Looks like a lot of that team was vaccinated like 4 weeks ago, JnJ's mighty Johnson graph shows you're still pretty flaccid until 6 weeks or so. then why are we telling people 2 weeks after j&j? oh, right, the leadership wants you to die
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2021 00:42
|
|
|
wilderthanmild posted:Yeah, not wearing masks inside when vaccinated is one of those things where I think it would make sense in a world where all people are both honest and rational but in reality it will just be used as an excuse by idiots. I am not trying to be pedantic but have you spoken to this demographic at all? And how about the working class who work all under the table, untaxed cash, no health benefits. Sure they could go get the vaccine (without insurance ?) but they're already so 'unmotivated' the vaccine just goes to the top of the pile. This really is Darwin calling
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2021 01:00
|
|
|
nexous posted:then why are we telling people 2 weeks after j&j? oh, right, the leadership wants you to die the whole point is that covid 19 could overwhelm our hospital systems, brining the death rate from 2%~ or so into the teens because people couldn't find an ICU bed and preventable deaths from lack of care or oxygen would skyrocket out of control. I experienced that here in OC in Dec, Jan and Feb when there was no available ICU beds and it was fuckin goddamn dire around here and people were dying in ambulances stacked up outside hospital ERs the vaccines loving work. get the fuckin vaccine. wear a goddamn mask if you want, stay indoors if you want, whatever. but this idea that "the admin craves for death" is just loving stupid and borders on conspiracy level poo poo
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2021 01:04
|
|
|
nexous posted:then why are we telling people 2 weeks after j&j? oh, right, the leadership wants you to die All the official numbers for JnJ that seemed mediocre but adequate re: severe illness and death were at 2 weeks or so iirc. The longer term benefits of it are just treated as kind of a bonus.
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2021 01:15
|
|
|
poll plane variant posted:All the official numbers for JnJ that seemed mediocre but adequate re: severe illness and death were at 2 weeks or so iirc. The longer term benefits of it are just treated as kind of a bonus. 77% effective at 2 weeks, 85% at 4 is what they told me when I got it.
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2021 01:28
|
|
|
Sjs00 posted:I am not trying to be pedantic but have you spoken to this demographic at all? And how about the working class who work all under the table, untaxed cash, no health benefits. Sure they could go get the vaccine (without insurance ?) but they're already so 'unmotivated' the vaccine just goes to the top of the pile. My folks are deep red, Trump maniac, blue-collar folks and definitely are all those things you said above. They don't have health insurance whatsoever and their vaccine was covered here in the states. They didn't pay anything. Is it different elsewhere?
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2021 01:37
|
|
|
Sjs00 posted:I am not trying to be pedantic but have you spoken to this demographic at all? And how about the working class who work all under the table, untaxed cash, no health benefits. Sure they could go get the vaccine (without insurance ?) but they're already so 'unmotivated' the vaccine just goes to the top of the pile. I know a few people who haven't gotten the vaccine who are definitely not anti-vaxxers who are just lazy fools who complain about making appointments or driving downtown just to get a shot and make it sound like they'll get around to it. And yes, those people who it just goes "to the top of the pile" for are among people I'm talking about here. You make it really easy for people, like to the point that they can integrate it into a thing they are already doing on a whim and you'd definitely claw out a few more percentage points. Getting groceries and you see a no appointment, no cost vaccination site while you've been dragging your feet, hell you might get it then. Get offered by your work to get a shot on a day they have people coming to come do it, sure why not. The bar was a pretty extreme example and more of a fun bit to throw out there, but hey, vaccinating people at a bar is probably an effective use since they are clearly already participating in a really high risk stuff. That one probably has more downsides though, so it's more of a silly example. I know that for neither my vaccine nor my wife's vaccine was insurance even asked for so that doesn't really factor into it. From what I can tell, there should be no patient costs anywhere in the US and in the case of uninsured they are supposed to be billed to the government. Though these kind of setups would likely be more like the mass vaccination clinics, run by the state or county rather than a private hospital system or doctor's practice. People worried about this would also probably be easier to reach this way too, since you could have signage indicating no cost and no need for insurance. The whole point is not every unvaccinated person is an anti vaxxer. Some just won't go out of their way to get a shot, for a variety of reasons ranging from stupid to tragic. The easier it is, the better. The more opportunity, the better. Every few percentage points you can claw out, the more likely we are to actually reach herd immunity.
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2021 01:58
|
|
|
CDC today for vaccinated people https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbw6hF7tHns I had my Moderna doses at a CVS, 0 questions about health insurance
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2021 02:12
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 1, 2024 17:07 |
|
|
oh wow my group of friend's dumbest guy isn't getting the vaccine, what a shock
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2021 02:15
|
|
