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Sounds like that Cessna pilot saw it all, wild.
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moparacker posted:On topic of learning from other pilots; there's a new NTSB report about when woodland river critters fly. Um... Topical! I just watched this in the morning and later came home to the KAPA midair news. Well I guess you could call this one a successful midair collision?
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May 13, 2021 01:27
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Really feels like they expected the Cirrus to line up behind Key Lime. Did the tower have a scope in front of them, they must have.
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May 13, 2021 03:02
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`Nemesis posted:another picture cargo jet
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May 13, 2021 03:04
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The jet turns the propeller! 
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May 13, 2021 03:11
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*narrators voice* "six months later that aircraft was back on the line flying freight"
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hobbesmaster posted:The jet turns the propeller!
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These are some remarkable photos. From https://www.9news.com/article/news/local/plane-collision-crash-cherry-creek-reservoir/73-79563af1-af84-482c-b3f8-f9b40d9378eb  
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ArcMage posted:Really feels like they expected the Cirrus to line up behind Key Lime. Did the tower have a scope in front of them, they must have.
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May 13, 2021 03:41
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Charles posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5tb2dVWJqc Seems like a standard right hand pattern until the Cirrus overshot the turn to final. I think the one tower controller did warn the Cirrus about the Key Lime too but the other controller didn't do the same. Cirrus should have been looking for both but as that Alaska crash video shows, see and avoid isn't perfect. And controllers didn't help as there were no further traffic alerts as they got closer.
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May 13, 2021 03:48
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Zero One posted:Seems like a standard right hand pattern until the Cirrus overshot the turn to final. Well, at least it's a teachable moment.
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May 13, 2021 04:05
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It kinda looks like the Cirrus tailboom and control surfaces are all intact before hitting the ground under parachute. Second guessing time: coulda landed it! Also for your consideration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xQSbTrmuko&t=116s
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May 13, 2021 04:12
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Ambihelical Hexnut posted:It kinda looks like the Cirrus tailboom and control surfaces are all intact before hitting the ground under parachute. Second guessing time: coulda landed it! "Traffic to follow" 
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May 13, 2021 04:17
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Ambihelical Hexnut posted:It kinda looks like the Cirrus tailboom and control surfaces are all intact before hitting the ground under parachute. Second guessing time: coulda landed it! Cirrus says CAPS deployment is only “STRONGLY RECOMMENDED “ after a midair!  https://cirrusaircraft.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/CAPS_Guide.pdf on a more serious note half that document can be summed up as “pull the drat handle” hobbesmaster fucked around with this message at 05:12 on May 13, 2021 |
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May 13, 2021 05:08
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After reading the advertising material I'm going to tell my commander we need to hire Cirrus to install CAPS (tm) on our helicopters. A fully loaded helicopter under a 422 foot diameter chute should hit the ground at only 20fps.
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I think you'd have to convince Cirrus to make helicopters before they install the Cirrus Airframe Parachute System on them.
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e: didn't notice how far back in the thread post I was quoting was
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hobbesmaster posted:on a more serious note half that document can be summed up as “pull the drat handle” Aeronautical Insanity 2021 : “pull the drat handle”
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Ambihelical Hexnut posted:It kinda looks like the Cirrus tailboom and control surfaces are all intact before hitting the ground under parachute. Second guessing time: coulda landed it! Painting your fleet of Fairchilds "camouflage green" (as someone else called it) does not seem helpful for see-and-avoid VFR flying.
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May 13, 2021 17:24
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Arson Daily posted:*narrators voice* "six months later that aircraft was back on the line flying freight" Almost certainly. Airframe inspection, replace the whole tube section with a splice out of the metroliner boneyard, and that'll fly again.
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May 13, 2021 18:53
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How much speed tape to fix it?
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Cojawfee posted:How much speed tape to fix it? Speed tape? It already has a super effective Speed Hole
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buttcrackmenace posted:Aeronautical Insanity 2021 : “pull the drat handle” I recall that that was the big lesson they learned from the early days when the parachute looked like it wasn't saving as many people as they'd predicted. People were using it as a last resort and only pulling it after they'd tried everything else, when the plane had gotten too low for a proper deployment. They changed the training to emphasize pulling the chute as one of the first steps in recovery, and to try to get people to verbalize "the chute is armed and I will use it promptly if I find myself in trouble" as part of their takeoff briefing, and apparently that helped. Yeah deploying the chute does total a $600,000 airplane but hey, that's what your insurance is for. Not like you care about money anyway mr. 7 figures a year at google cirrus owner
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PainterofCrap posted:Somewhere is a video of a small crew starting one up & flying off in it. Based on the foliage around it, it had been sitting for at least a year. I choose to believe they fired it up and moved it just so they could mow that patch of grass its been sitting on for months.
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Looking at the pictures I can only imagine that boomer Facebook aviation group I joined bitch and moan how the cirrus pilot wasn't manly enough to die with their plane E: due to Europe sucking at covid I still haven't had my drat plane lessons 
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May 14, 2021 07:11
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Cable Guy posted:Is it just me, or has the tail gathered a noticeable droop... That's not just you
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Cable Guy posted:Is it just me, or has the tail gathered a noticeable droop... I’m really having trouble figuring out how that collision worked with the damage to the planes.
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May 14, 2021 15:12
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I was assuming Cirrus prop to the Fairchild's fuselage because I can't imagine any other way that damage could happen and have the Cirrus still resemble a plane
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Seeing some damage on the tail of the metro makes me think the gear went through the fuselage and maybe a wing clipped the tail
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May 14, 2021 17:52
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Gear strike was my thought too. Then the airflow tore the side off.
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did a good number on the leading edge of the vertical stab as well
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Maksimus54 posted:Seeing some damage on the tail of the metro makes me think the gear went through the fuselage and maybe a wing clipped the tail I can kinda see that, the cirrus was in a right hand bank while the metroliner was already lined up. The cirrus would've impacted from the metroliner's right. So if we follow that, the landing gear went through the fuselage and the left wing clipped the tail. But... wouldn't the right wing have also impacted the forward fuselage? I guess I'll have to wait for the NTSB report. vvv cirruses have to have gopros in them, right? maybe the ntsb has it hobbesmaster fucked around with this message at 19:44 on May 14, 2021 |
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May 14, 2021 19:34
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The lack of dashcam footage is bullshit.
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May 14, 2021 19:39
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Didn't somebody say the Cessna was on their first solo? Seems like people film those a lot.
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May 14, 2021 20:43
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It's a shame that guy didn't bring a go pro for his solo flight.
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May 14, 2021 20:52
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Solo flights: 1 Successful solo landings: 0 Not a great start to the log book.
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May 14, 2021 21:14
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Advent Horizon posted:Solo flights: 1 The dude who was solo did just fine. It was the cirrus that hosed up.
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May 14, 2021 21:17
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My bad, I thought Charles typo’d Cessna instead of Cirrus.
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Really that’s why I GoPro most of my flights. It’s not like I’m doing anything worth sharing, but if someone wants to gently caress up in front of me…
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