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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Do the Republicans who think there is massive voter fraud every election ever wonder why the Democrats let themselves lose 2000, 2004, 2016, lose seats in the House in 2010, 2014, and 2016, or only get a 50/50 split in the Senate? Trump was a transformative candidate who brought out so much of the silent majority that Democrats were blindsided and their fraud couldn't keep up. Bush won because he was a deep cover operative for The Libs.
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May 14, 2021 17:31
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Kraftwerk posted:And for the record, the rest of congress barely intervened to help Sumner. Everyone sat there and watched. Probably because there was an accomplice there waving a gun
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Any updates in the various rumored criminal prosecutions post-trump? I thought NYAG would have filed something by now. He subpoenaed the school that trumps CFO goes to investigating if trump org was paying for it as salary but the cfo wasn’t reporting it as income a few days ago.
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May 14, 2021 17:32
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Kalit posted:Sorry if this was already posted, but it looks like Mike Parson is continuing to be a huge shitbag: man, democracy kind of seems like it's on its last legs i don't know what the gently caress things will look like in four years
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May 14, 2021 17:33
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:man, democracy kind of seems like it's on its last legs Probably a quasi-autocrat with a rubber-stamp legislature. I'd say it was fun while it lasted but it really wasn't, only better compared to our eco-fascist future.
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May 14, 2021 17:36
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Any updates in the various rumored criminal prosecutions post-trump? I thought NYAG would have filed something by now. they got his tax returns in February and they raided rudy's houses. at earliest it will be later this year. this poo poo takes a long time. Kraftwerk posted:This whole thing with MTG and AOC is starting to resemble what happened with Andrew Butler and Charles Sumner before the civil war. Only instead of a walking cane, it might be a gun. yeah. sadly i have to agree. especially since its clear alot of chuds walk in carrying. thankfully, i don't think the thought of murdering AOC has entered her brain fully yet. i think that will come after some GOP defeat with some bill or some poo poo.
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May 14, 2021 17:37
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Grouchio posted:Whos worse Roy or Stefanik, for posterity? both are bad. roy is worse least in loudness factor. either way i find it funny that trump plants the blade in the back of anyone who doesn't lavish him with praise forever.
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May 14, 2021 17:41
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zoux posted:Republicans are stupid. Wait is this guy saying this as a good thing?
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May 14, 2021 17:41
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TwoQuestions posted:Probably a quasi-autocrat with a rubber-stamp legislature. It's not over yet. I expect to see you organizing in 2022 and 2024.
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May 14, 2021 17:42
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FizFashizzle posted:Wait is this guy saying this as a good thing? yeah probably. chuds love villians and not in a fun way. How are u posted:It's not over yet. I expect to see you organizing in 2022 and 2024. also biden and the dems didnt cancel party election structures like obama did. so thats a plus.
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May 14, 2021 17:44
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Kraftwerk posted:This whole thing with MTG and AOC is starting to resemble what happened with Andrew Butler and Charles Sumner before the civil war. Only instead of a walking cane, it might be a gun. quote:Several other Senators and Representatives attempted to help Sumner, but were blocked by Edmundson, who yelled at the spectators to leave Brooks and Sumner alone, and Keitt, who brandished his own cane and a pistol, and shouted, "Let them be!" and "Let them alone, God drat you, let them alone!" quote:Representatives Ambrose S. Murray and Edwin B. Morgan were finally able to intervene and restrain Brooks, at which point he quietly left the chamber. Murray obtained the aid of a Senate page and the Sergeant at Arms, Dunning R. McNair. As Sumner regained consciousness they were able to assist him to walk to a cloakroom. Sumner received first aid and medical attention, including several stitches. With the aid of Nathaniel P. Banks, the Speaker of the House, and Senator Henry Wilson, Sumner was able to travel by carriage to his lodgings, where he received further medical treatment.
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How are u posted:It's not over yet. I expect to see you organizing in 2022 and 2024. Portman's retiring, so we have a very small shot for a Dem senator, but it's probably still going to be some 30 year old Qanon nutcase.
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As we'd guessed, DeWine is going to end the Federal unemployment aid starting June 26 for Ohio.
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FizFashizzle posted:Wait is this guy saying this as a good thing? Chuds are mentally 12 and twice as edgy, so yeah they love the Joker/ the Empire/ Thanos unironically. I keep wondering a chicken and the egg situation with the GOP: was the base always this insane and the party moved to meet it, or did the party radicalize its base more and more? It's harder and harder to tell. What is clear is that being "conservative" seems to be pretty heavily linked to a lack of conceptual thinking and thinking entirely in absolutes. There is only one "Good side" and then there are bad guys, and then there are the dumb masses, who get tricked. That idiotic phrase by that lunatic cop trainer Grossman is the overall thought process of a Conservative world view: "There are Wolves, There are Sheep, and there are Sheep Dogs." TulliusCicero fucked around with this message at 18:06 on May 14, 2021 |
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Quick reminder that Erik Prince is the brother of Betsy DeVos and had prominent mention in the Mueller report, most notably for deleting a huge amount of Trump campaign related emails and messages before Mueller could get them.
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May 14, 2021 18:06
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Doctor Butts posted:As we'd guessed, DeWine is going to end the Federal unemployment aid starting June 26 for Ohio. I had a feeling that every red state would do this within a week, and we are right on track. Assholes.
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May 14, 2021 18:07
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Doctor Butts posted:As we'd guessed, DeWine is going to end the Federal unemployment aid starting June 26 for Ohio. "Biden made us do this!"
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May 14, 2021 18:08
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TulliusCicero posted:Chuds are mentally 12 and twice as edgy, so yeah they love the Joker/ the Empire/ Thanos unironically. I think they were always like this, only with a veneer of respecting certain social niceties like not expressing genocidal hatreds at the dinner table or at work. The first time I saw the mask come off in real time (that I can remember) is the two-day period after the pussy tape dropped where people were silent and then realized that they didn’t have to pretend to care that trump was a rapist. So they never actually cared about rape and actually loved rapists all along, but for some period they felt they had to pretend that they didn’t. And then they stopped pretending and started resenting everyone else for making them pretend.
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May 14, 2021 18:10
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TulliusCicero posted:I keep wondering a chicken and the egg situation with the GOP: was the base always this insane and the party moved to meet it, or did the party radicalize its base more and more? The anti democracy stuff is from Republican politicians since the 2020 election: (unverified twitter account is the author of the paper) https://mobile.twitter.com/dhopkins1776/status/1389945952983728137
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Any updates in the various rumored criminal prosecutions post-trump? I thought NYAG would have filed something by now. Informed people seem to think that since Vance is not running for re-election they will wait until the new AG is installed before making an indictment. They've set up a quasi independent counsel sort of a thing to ensure that the case has continuity and can't just be ended. Though, I suppose lesser personalities without the Trump moniker may come up earlier?
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May 14, 2021 18:13
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FizFashizzle posted:Wait is this guy saying this as a good thing? Uh no, he's comparing her to a terrorist ransom video made by a supervillain.
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James Garfield posted:Hamas being fuckers is separate from Palestinians being oppressed. If Hamas were democratically elected I'd think that voting for lovely nationalists was an understandable response to oppression, but Hamas isn't elected so https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Palestinian_legislative_election Mind you, I don't think that makes the Palestinian residents of Gaza culpable for everything Hamas does, but it's worth noting that Hamas enjoys a good deal of support among Palestinians (at least when compared to Fatah, Hamas' primary political rival). Edit: And it shouldn't be surprising, as Hamas ran social programs, schools, etc... that were very popular with the locals. They are more multi-faceted than many realize.
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VitalSigns posted:idk man you can only push people so far Well guys now y'all can see why I leave the thread when this poo poo shows up, so I guess I'll just sit down and be quiet again so I don't rock the boat anymore. Literally say they shouldn't fire missiles at civilians and I get a thousands reasons why "WELL SEE IT'S OKAY BECAUSE--" "OH YOU'RE SIDING WITH THE OPPRESSORS!" Yeah I get it. I'll just never bring it up again.
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May 14, 2021 18:28
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TulliusCicero posted:Chuds are mentally 12 and twice as edgy, so yeah they love the Joker/ the Empire/ Thanos unironically. It's the results of 50+ years of constant dogwhistling as part of Nixon's southern strategy. The only thing that's really changed is that the majority of the voting base got tired of the plausible deniability and the code words and actively seek out the people who appeal to the paranoia and aggression that's been flashed into their brains over the years.
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TulliusCicero posted:Chuds are mentally 12 and twice as edgy, so yeah they love the Joker/ the Empire/ Thanos unironically. There were literally Chud memes with Trump using that jewel gauntlet thingy from Marvel to kill all the Democrats in the runup to the election. I think Don Jr. even shared one. I had to finally buckle down and watch the drat movie to figure out what they were talking about.
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Grammarchist posted:There were literally Chud memes with Trump using that jewel gauntlet thingy from Marvel to kill all the Democrats in the runup to the election. I think Don Jr. even shared one. I had to finally buckle down and watch the drat movie to figure out what they were talking about. It works quite well in representing their movement. A destructive and evil act that makes less sense the more you think about it.
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TulliusCicero posted:It's harder and harder to tell. What is clear is that being "conservative" seems to be pretty heavily linked to a lack of conceptual thinking and thinking entirely in absolutes. Hey, don't lump those of us who think entirely in absolutes in with conservatives! I don't want to get tarred with that bad a brush!
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Flopsy posted:Well guys now y'all can see why I leave the thread when this poo poo shows up, so I guess I'll just sit down and be quiet again so I don't rock the boat anymore. That's not really what anyone is saying, the point is that the actions being done by the Israelis are being done under their national flag by people that ostensibly represent the people that voted for them or their party, while the actions being done by the Palestinians are being done by a group with some support but no capacity to administer, who have been locked out of the political process by the Israelis deliberately. I don't even have the ability to determine if these attacks are supported by Hamas at large or if it's the actions of the most radical under the umbrella, because there's no reporting, Israel assassinated anyone that could be considered leadership, and they don't exactly have a press office putting out statements! Further, the damage being done by the rockets is extremely minor compared to the damage being done by the airstrikes, whether you look at the number of deaths or the dollars of property damage. The justification for the airstrikes from the Israeli military is extremely flimsy - they have unsourced and unverified claims of "weapon caches" in the buildings they are bombing, but suspiciously their target list is literally just every building in Gaza from tallest to shortest, with multi-family housing and media offices being among the first targets. This is just the latest in Israel's storied history of using individual actions to justify collective punishment against an ethnic group, check out the casualty numbers and targets from 2007-8 and 2014. 2014 is notable because that was the time that Israel targeted hospitals and schools run by the UN as shelters because OTHER shelters which were not in use had been used to stash weapons - the places they actually bombed were never shown to have weapons cached there, either before the strikes were authorized or after
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May 14, 2021 18:54
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They finally had a breakthrough on the 1/6 commission. It will structured exactly like the 9/11 commission. Subpoena power, they will release an official report, etc. The only thing the Dems gave up was veto power over the Republican members. They wanted to exclude anyone who had spoken in favor of not certifying the election. It's a 5/5 split and each party appoints who they want. The official report will be released no matter what, but they could deadlock giving it the official seal of approval. https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/bipartisan-bill-january-6-commission-scope
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DeathSandwich posted:It's the results of 50+ years of constant dogwhistling as part of Nixon's southern strategy. The only thing that's really changed is that the majority of the voting base got tired of the plausible deniability and the code words and actively seek out the people who appeal to the paranoia and aggression that's been flashed into their brains over the years. The basic idea of the Southern Strategy (pander to racist whites to steal Dixiecrat votes from the Democrats) was morally repellent but tactically sound. Where Nixon seemingly went wrong was in over-estimating white voters, because the other half of the Southern Strategy was based on a deep fear of looking too obviously racist, but it turns out the people you're going after with that strategy start losing interest unless you start bringing out the top shelf race hate. The GOP primary field had no defense against Trump for the simple reason that what they wanted was open race hate, not diet race hate. Nixon: too idealistic for the GOP lol
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https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1393257772549083145?s=20quote:The voting electorate continues to become more diverse, and 2020 was the most racially diverse electorate ever. This was due to big turnout increases in communities of color, particularly among Latino and Asian voters. The electorate was 72% white, compared to 74% white in 2016 and 77% white in 2008. This composition shift comes mostly from the decline of white voters without a college degree, who have dropped from 51% of the electorate in 2008 to 44% in 2020. quote:Along with massive increases in turnout, Latino vote share as a whole swung towards Trump by 8 points in two-way vote share compared to 2016, though Biden-Harris still enjoyed solid majority (61%) support among this group. Some of the shift from 2016 appears to be a result of changing voting preferences among people who voted in both elections, and some may come from new voters who were more evenly split in their vote choice than previous Latino voters. This question presents particularly challenging data analysis problems, which we discuss more in a dedicated section below. quote:The Biden-Harris ticket benefitted from a diverse set of supporters: 39% of their coalition were voters of color, and the remaining 61% were split fairly evenly between white voters with and without a college degree. They also made significant gains among white voters compared to 2016, particularly among white college and white suburban voters, who have shown a solid and consistent backlash against Trump’s Republican party. The Trump-Pence ticket was more homogenous, with nearly 60% of their votes coming from white non-college voters, 85% white in total, and only 15% voters of color. Given how the Republican party has fully embraced their cult of trump status I think there's a solid chance that those white college and white suburban voters might stick with Dems in the next GE. There's no telling if they'll turn out for the midterms though.
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Flopsy posted:Well guys now y'all can see why I leave the thread when this poo poo shows up, so I guess I'll just sit down and be quiet again so I don't rock the boat anymore. In your first post you admitted you aren't informed about the issue so maybe the responsible thing to do would be to get informed if you want to start making judgements or refrain from making them yeah? What do you think of someone who, every time the native American genocide comes up says "well there were assholes on both sides you know, some native soldiers really did kill white women and children, both sides were to blame". You'd probably tell them their focus is wildly off and hope they consider your words instead of getting fragile about it.
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Oh man this is sweet https://twitter.com/MikaelThalen/status/1393255202803773444 https://twitter.com/MikaelThalen/status/1393260747946299394
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May 14, 2021 18:59
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zoux posted:Oh man this is sweet Fuckin’ LOL, they will find any angle to grift - next thing you know we’re going to hear about some Trump-owned locations making people pay for vaccinations.
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May 14, 2021 19:05
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:They finally had a breakthrough on the 1/6 commission. zoux posted:Oh man this is sweet 
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May 14, 2021 19:09
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zoux posted:Oh man this is sweet Lmao we should broadcast this and the Proud Boy melt down all over He doesn't give a poo poo about you dipshits: he only cares about you because you give him money and scream his name.
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May 14, 2021 19:10
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Grouchio posted:gently caress YEAH BOUT TIME He wants them to vote for him and send him money, he doesn't want to associate with them or have them in his buildings
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zoux posted:Oh man this is sweet The first thing that comes to my mind is plausible deniability. He clearly doesn't give a poo poo about his cultists, but it wouldn't surprise me if there wasn't an angle of trying to distance himself too.
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Grouchio posted:gently caress YEAH BOUT TIME I mean, it's been common knowledge for some time now that Trump actively hates the majority of his supporters, because they're not all buff, wealthy, celebrity Adonises.
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