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i have to imagine these are all solvable problems with some time; in other words glad there are rich nerds who buy this nerd poo poo so that eventually i can get a good one from apple or whatever
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probably. like, in a decade maybe someone will have come up with a material for the screens that doesn't stretch and crease and someone will discover how to make a hinge that doesn't get filled with poo poo if it's in your pocket every day. then apple will buy them and make the only working foldable phones or something much better will come along that serves the same design goal and these will be weird little historical footnotes
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sb hermit posted:one great thing about the pandemic is that I'm not worried about running down the battery for my phone because I'm always indoors how often are you running your battery down that you've absolutely hosed it in the span of a year?? jesus dude (also you can get batteries replaced for relatively cheap on most phones??)
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i imagine the hinge is probably a solved issue at this point; samsung's big problem (lol ok there are many but ykwim) was that they insist on doing an internally folded screen so they need something that can't close fully, leaving gaps on both sides. versus something like huawei's design, which has an exterior screen at all times:  still a hinge, obviously, but it's less of an issue in terms of downsides edit: $3425 CAD l allll mao mediaphage fucked around with this message at 03:03 on May 18, 2021 |
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May 18, 2021 02:56
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but then the super soft plastic screen is on the outside where it's going to get destroyed which is probably why huaweis newest folder has an internal screen like the samsungs
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mediaphage posted:not surprised that’s not consistent with what we see from Google. * they brought most of the development in-house, including buying hundreds of HTC engineers. * they made their own SoC. that is very expensive, and isn’t cost effective unless you sell many millions. * they were trying differentiating features that weren’t available to other OEMs * they were charging premium phone prices on what was mostly midrange hardware this is not how you make a reference product. google was trying to play in the big leagues. maybe they still are. they haven’t gotten any traction, but we’ll know they gave up when they ax a big chunk of their engineering team
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repiv posted:but then the super soft plastic screen is on the outside where it's going to get destroyed i had that in my original post but edited it out because i frankly wasn't sure which phone came first. either way i expect the scratches / plastic is a solvable issue eventually The Management posted:that’s not consistent with what we see from Google. by reference i mostly meant as an example of what one could make rather than say a hardware standard that all could follow. i have to assume that google isn't developing their own soc strictly for use in the pixel line alone? i mean it may be a flop like everything that isn't ad sales but i imagine they want to do what apple does and start putting versions into everything
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mediaphage posted:either way i expect the scratches / plastic is a solvable issue eventually a ductile and also scratch resistant transparent material?
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eventually is doing some heavy lifting
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it's okay, once we figure it out we'll send scotty back in time with the secrets of transparent aluminium
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by eventually i mean something that is good enough. not completely scratch proof. like, they’re selling these now in small numbers despite the cost. with the admittedly large assumption that they can bring those costs down over time there will definitely be people who are fine with the compromises. imo there will probably be an ok if pricey option on the market in maybe five years or something.
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Jabor posted:it's okay, once we figure it out we'll send scotty back in time with the secrets of transparent aluminium sapphire has a fair bit of aluminum by weight IIRC so we kind of already have it
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mediaphage posted:i imagine the hinge is probably a solved issue at this point; samsung's big problem (lol ok there are many but ykwim) was that they insist on doing an internally folded screen so they need something that can't close fully, leaving gaps on both sides. can;t wait to backtalk on my huawei whatever the gently caress it is called
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DuckConference posted:sapphire has a fair bit of aluminum by weight IIRC so we kind of already have it oh word?
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anyways the hinge issue is already solved: i'm never buying that trash
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mediaphage posted:by eventually i mean something that is good enough. not completely scratch proof. not least a huge screen will be compelling enough to some people that a yearly screen protector replacement program doesn't seem outside the question as a solution.
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the ideal foldable screen form factor is two cylindrical battery cells on opposite sides of a rollable screen 
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the ideal foldable form factor is one where you can crumple it up and throw it in the trash
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFFrahd05OM an hour in and still no anroid
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3 beillion active anroid devices
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Vagrancy posted:3 beillion active anroid devices how many are part of botnets
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not watching it, what did they announce that was in any way interesting?
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they had some computers talk to each other. one was a paper plane so no
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Vagrancy posted:3 beillion active anroid devices each of them running two javas
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more like google j/o
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infernal machines posted:samsung looks at the surface duo and says "hold my beer" you know what's better than one massive point of failure?
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so reading information on a wavy phone takes two hands and it can’t be held steady because it is flexible, like a newspaper? why does anyone want that ?
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Partycat posted:so reading information on a wavy phone takes two hands and it can’t be held steady because it is flexible, like a newspaper? what are you talking about
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crepeface posted:you know what's better than one massive point of failure? i have a name you know
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May 19, 2021 14:06
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mediaphage posted:what are you talking about Whatever the samsung .... whatever is in the photo
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May 20, 2021 02:24
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I mean, it's still rigid
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i think their point is there are hinges facing in opposite directions
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May 20, 2021 02:30
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even if the hinges were super loose, after a week in the pocket, they would pick up enough lint and dust to be sticky enough to not collapse closed while held
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infernal machines posted:i think their point is there are hinges facing in opposite directions right but it's not like a floppy sheet of paper
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i think they're assuming unless you hold it with two hands one side will droop
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infernal machines posted:i think they're assuming unless you hold it with two hands one side will droop dangerous thing assumptions anyway thats incorrect
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otoh, it's a samsung product
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hold with both hands please
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yeah I based it on the picture and was trying to figure why anyone would want their phone to be wavy on purpose. I guess I could have read the manual, probably says to keep your hands at 10 and 2 when operating the phone
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infernal machines posted:otoh, it's a samsung product i mean this is the biggest reason not to buy it ofc Partycat posted:yeah I based it on the picture and was trying to figure why anyone would want their phone to be wavy on purpose. 
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