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Bobby Deluxe posted:It reminds me of the 'well they should just not do that' mentality in right wingers. The very best example is children (the having and funding of). "People shouldn't have children they can't afford [without state support]" - ok, but they have, and the children are totally innocent of this even under your blame-loving ideology. Answers to this are either: - "Well they shouldn't have had them  "- "Then they should be taken into care" The latter of which is doubly horrifying because it's both far worse for the child, and more expensive. But again, the "ought" stops at "shouldn't have had them", subsequent evidence be damned.
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The job I’m currently working involves a lot of wandering about between different places and no one monitors you as long as a baseline amount of stuff is getting done. That means I’ve started an hour late and finished an hour early (and by start I mean leave my house) and taken a two hour pub lunch with a couple of pints most days so far. It’s loving glorious.
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The Perfect Element posted:I have a spreadsheet of albums I want to listen to which I tried to email myself on my new work laptop, and the email got blocked because it picked up that the attachment contained profanities including 'gently caress' and 'oval office' (yeah there's some grindcore on there, why do you ask?). That made me pretty paranoid for a few days, but Tbh given that IT have taken nearly three weeks and counting to install Visio on my laptop, they don't seem that on top of things. One time, where I worked installed new email blocking software and as a manager, I got an alert that one of my team was sending out pornography. As she was a very mild and quiet person, I was most surprised. So I asked the IT to send over what she was sending out. Three emails with excel spreadsheets with lines relating to Sussex, Essex, and stop-cock (to do with a train failure). While it was quite funny on the face of it, some managers would have taken the IT spam filters word as gospel and started a disciplinary (before obviously being shown up some way down the line.) It still beggars belief to me that there are people who NEVER look in their email spam / junk / bulk folders and just trust the filters of whatever service they are using. Had this fairly recently when I was updating a website for someone and testing out a new contact form. She claimed the emails just weren't getting through, so I asked her to look in the junk folder and she found all sorts of emails (not just these tests but important things from clients!) in there. Bobby Deluxe posted:It reminds me of the 'well they should just not do that' mentality in right wingers. yeah someone I know, right winger, freelancer, when the covid first kicked in, she was all for filling in the govt stuff about 'how can the govt support freelancers' etc. She was one of the lucky ones who had been freelancing for several years and had tax returns etc to satisfy the bureaucrats. Then I mentioned something about people round here going bust - and her reply was essentially "freelancers should have continency funds and its tough luck on them". This was after extensive flooding Jan/Feb 2020 had wiped out many small businesses reserves because places were flooded out and stock ruined or crucial road bridges being impassible and so on preventing people traveling out to customers. Also where I live it's sign on or become self-employed so a lot of people are in that transition (there was a purge round here of DWP infiltrating local facebook groups and demanding individuals advertising their services produce bank statements and so forth. My niece got caught and she had made exactly £10 by self-employment, just trying to break out of the dependency on benefits. Well she's stuck right back there now because being a wedding/prom etc make-up person, she's been unable to do that for a year now as have all her 20-something friends with toddlers who do hair, makeup etc for occasions. And none of them qualify for any help. Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 14:30 on May 18, 2021 |
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Jakabite posted:The job I’m currently working involves a lot of wandering about between different places and no one monitors you as long as a baseline amount of stuff is getting done. That means I’ve started an hour late and finished an hour early (and by start I mean leave my house) and taken a two hour pub lunch with a couple of pints most days so far. It’s loving glorious. Are you a cop
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Necrothatcher posted:What did people even do all day in offices before the internet existed? Then later Lunar Suite posted:have affair and do coke
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Necrothatcher posted:What did people even do all day in offices before the internet existed? Cop off in the supply cupboard.
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jiggerypokery posted:Are you a cop At what point did I say I take a short break to racially abuse someone? E: they also used to photocopy their bums tee hee
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My job is hard work for barely above minimum wage, but it's for a good cause and I mostly enjoy the work so I'm happy enough to stick with it for now. The low pay is starting to become enough of a problem that I might have to start looking for something better paid outside of the charity sector but I really don't want to lose that feeling that my job does actually mean something, even if it's in a somewhat indirect sense. The ideal would be the UBI trial working and having my salary be a top-up to that so I can keep doing low paid work without teetering on the edge of financial collapse periodically.
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forkboy84 posted:I used to work in a call centre for a well known High Street store and mobiles had to be turned off. I had an endless (well, more than 2.5 hours each way) commute so I'd just catch up on a days worth of posts on the bus home. Which, handy I had so much time because poo poo brah, UKMT circa 2015 took a long time to catch up with. Call centres are well-known to be absolute extractive hell holes, so I'm not really surprised phones would be banned. I'd add "and they are upset they have zero employee retention" but the truth is they're fully aware there's just always more desperate marks out there to fill the role.
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Necrothatcher posted:What did people even do all day in offices before the internet existed? Far fewer office jobs before the Internet.
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Private Speech posted:Call centres are well-known to be absolute extractive hell holes, so I'm not really surprised phones would be banned. What was great was that the number you called if you couldn't come in for whatever reason was a mobile, so they clearly weren't even fussed about interference or anything. Yes, Capita were poo poo employers to nobody's surprise (I started over the Christmas period on a temp contract, quickly got within all their stupid arbitrary targets about average call length, after 3 months they offered me a permanent deal, I signed it and looked forward to bring able to join a union recognised in the work place for the first time in my life, then I come back in on Monday 1 week before that's due to start and get pulled into a meeting to be told that they were rescinding the offer because someone remembered that I wasn't able to work on Sunday's because public transport is rear end. Would have been nice if they'd considered that in advance, I'd have probably moved to lovely Forres for that lovely job if someone had mentioned it was a problem but instead it's just "oops, you're gone bitch". I did so little work in that last week) Yes, I'm still bitter and didn't even like the job or the fact it had hugely deleterious impact on my mental health
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My mum was a nurse and my dad was a teacher, I went into retail temp work then the NHS immediately on leaving uni. I legit didn't realise jobs being described here even existed until about a year ago when my sister's boyfriend talked about what he did. I feel guilty when I spend 5 minutes on my phone at work instead of doing something work related! I do enjoy it (most of the time) and the job security and hours are good but sometimes I daydream about an alternative life where I went into computer stuff instead.
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Went and had a sit-in lunch for the first time in 15 months today, thought it would be weirder but honestly it was fine, everyone well spaced out, masked up apart from when at the table, something that'd normally be so strange but feels so normal now. After over a year of home cooked meals a chicken and bacon club sandwich has never been tastier
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Here's a nasty little scam. I know most of you beautiful speculums are already snapped up, but some of us have to use dating sites. There has been honestly about 15 people who have tried this on me on Grindr (I know), but if its not someone with an onlyfans channel, you get asked if you have registered on the ghrlgbt site, to prove you are not an abusive rapist, accompanied by suitably gruesome images of the person so beaten they are naturally hard to recognise. I have two problems, because scammers will scam, but don't pretend to be representing human rights. Also, you have to provide a card. Like monsters don't have a credit rating. I wouldn't ever have a problem proving I'm not a berserk beast, but, it really makes me mad that its representing abuse as a selling point. https://www.siliconrepublic.com/enterprise/grindr-messaging-scam-ireland
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Angepain posted:People definitely aren't silently leaving the discord in droves to join Angepain's Secret UKMT Discord where we all talk about how great I am and how much we all secretly hate you, the poster reading this Im not on that one, please feel free to view as pro or con
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I don't work near a computer so I cannot post during work hours, unless I finish the shift very early and get home in time. Then it's being paid to post and sleep, the great dream.
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Trickjaw posted:Here's a nasty little scam. I know most of you beautiful speculums are already snapped up, but some of us have to use dating sites. There has been honestly about 15 people who have tried this on me on Grindr (I know), but if its not someone with an onlyfans channel, you get asked if you have registered on the ghrlgbt site, to prove you are not an abusive rapist, accompanied by suitably gruesome images of the person so beaten they are naturally hard to recognise. Sounds nasty since it is both A) Manipulative, playing on your desire to be a "good person with nothing to hide." So of course you'd sign up. B) Directs you to a professional and friendly looking website to assuage your fears that this is a scam. I think a key part (from looking at screen shots) is they talk about making sure your not on a list.) But under Irish Law, there is no list. Even the Sex Offenders Register is something that people can't access. (Even Garda have a hard time being able to use it to confirm if people are still at the address they said they would be at.) So it's using people's lack of knowledge/ half remembered info from American TV of the system against them. I wonder if this was how they got into the HSE for the recent Cyber Attacks?
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Huh someone tried the same scam on me on a different dating app maybe 5 years ago. Website was much less convincing than that one though, it was pretty much "give us your credit card details because only non-rapists have credit cards". That one's pretty low.
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The Question IRL posted:But under Irish Law, there is no list. Even the Sex Offenders Register is something that people can't access. (Even Garda have a hard time being able to use it to confirm if people are still at the address they said they would be at.) Like many things within sex work, it doesn't carry weight of law but it does carry weight of looking out for each other. Once in a while, someone will propose doing the same for domestic violence etc., so it's not beyond reason that people would charitably assume someone had done similar for gay men dating online for similar reasons. Unfortunately in this case it's someone preying on those charitable assumptions.
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minema posted:My mum was a nurse and my dad was a teacher, I went into retail temp work then the NHS immediately on leaving uni. I legit didn't realise jobs being described here even existed until about a year ago when my sister's boyfriend talked about what he did. I feel guilty when I spend 5 minutes on my phone at work instead of doing something work related! I do enjoy it (most of the time) and the job security and hours are good but sometimes I daydream about an alternative life where I went into computer stuff instead. I don't really recommend it. I dunno, it's mostly mind set that if you pay me minimum wage you'll get minimum effort & if you pay me slightly above minimum wage you'll get slightly above minimum effort, but that's because I've never had a job where I can come home & feel like I did anything important or any of the other perks you may get aside from financial compensation. Plus minimum wage is not actually that easy to live on if you're say in your 30s and just cannot handle the thought of having flatmates who you aren't in a relationship with. I need privacy & to not have to share the television & all those important things.
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Trickjaw posted:Here's a nasty little scam. I know most of you beautiful speculums are already snapped up, but some of us have to use dating sites. There has been honestly about 15 people who have tried this on me on Grindr (I know), but if its not someone with an onlyfans channel, you get asked if you have registered on the ghrlgbt site, to prove you are not an abusive rapist, accompanied by suitably gruesome images of the person so beaten they are naturally hard to recognise. Woah, the website in that link looks incredibly legit.  I can absolutely see why people would pay €2 to sign up on that. and then get hit for 50 more. Clearly scammers websites have moved on an awful lot in the last few years.
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Guavanaut posted:There are informal lists that aren't part of the law and justice system, such as the National Ugly Mugs list for people who are violent towards sex workers. While I can understand why people in any workplace would want a Black List of people to avoid, it runs into the problem with any system that has no oversight. Anyone can set one up. Including predatory scammers.
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Borrovan posted:Huh someone tried the same scam on me on a different dating app maybe 5 years ago. Website was much less convincing than that one though, it was pretty much "give us your credit card details because only non-rapists have credit cards". I do want to stress its the Irish media who are the only ones reporting this. All the beeb uses grindr for is stings. You wouldn't believe the pictures of abuse they send you. No point sending it to my mp, as its Vicky Ford and she would start charging the scammers for tory coffers. All I can do, is gently caress all. My friends have encountered it. They *could? just be age verification, whilst lovely, is more acceptable. also, maybe of more impetus 5o this this thread, they usually use trans girls pics (if that's the wrong delination, I'm sorry) incase hetero curious lads come in because they will spend and not complain. But tqirl is right. Its cynical an evil. Let's get Jessflapps on it
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don't really know where to start with this but i'm sure you all will get a kick out of this https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1394638966423490563 "woke" poorly defined, turns out. i do love the range of views on how "woke" the guardian and the bbc are, mind
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I spent most of the workday when I wasn't posting today looking up tips for building your own garden decking, taking measurements and getting lumber priced. Also spent 30 mins watching 2 lads deliver and assemble a DFS sofa in my living room, and then had a lil nap to test (v comfy). Apparently my work is solid enough that I'm in the frame for a promotion to director level this year, lol
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I've been scammed before. It feels embarrassing. First day out in New York City, and we're seeing where we can get some milk for our tea. There's this bloke on the street corner with a mic, spitting some fat rhymes, with a few discs laid out on a table stand in front of him. His buddy comes up with a disc in his hand and tells his story. He and his crew are trying to get some cash together for a professional recording sesh. Buy his disc for ten bucks? I did. No disc; an empty paper sleeve. The web addresses and the twitter accounts printed on the sleeve led nowhere. The guy sold me a square of card for ten bucks. But life isn't about what happens. It's what you make out of that. I could be justified now in saying "be paranoid; watch your backs. Get smart!" Or I could say that I chose to show good will. I rolled those dice and, this time, it came up snake eyes. But there are times where I've actually helped people, and I would do it again, even if it turns out to be a scam once in a while.
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Failed Imagineer posted:Weird, those guys usually do actually give you a CD Even fraud capitalists are cheaping out on their materials lol.
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The Question IRL posted:While I can understand why people in any workplace would want a Black List of people to avoid, it runs into the problem with any system that has no oversight. Anyone can set one up. Sex work has both a heightened sense of need for safety and also a long history of the legal system being useless at best or hostile at worst. That's not good, but it is good at getting a lot of people to agree to some kind of community monitored alternative. It's the heightened solidarity that doesn't exist with, say, 'people who are in domestic relationships' as a group. Men who have sex with men also face heightened risk of violence and a long history of legal indifference to that, so it looks like a plausible idea. It's the kind of thing that sounds a good idea if someone hadn't decided to make it a poo poo one. Angepain posted:"woke" poorly defined, turns out. i do love the range of views on how "woke" the guardian and the bbc are, mind https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp5QabWeUUw
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Trickjaw posted:beautiful speculums Good band name, this. I can hear Jools Holland drunkenly introducing them already
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OwlFancier posted:Anything you do is worthwhile because if it wasn't you wouldn't do it. This is definitely not true. There's lots of ways you can end up doing stuff that isn't worthwhile: miscommunication, misunderstanding, priming for misprioritization, delusions, compulsions. Any time where your actions don't line up with your desires, basically. The list is long, and pretty much everyone does a lot of poo poo off it pretty frequently because making good decisions is hard.
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Azza Bamboo posted:Also, this one time, I paid ten bucks for the ability to post on a BBCode forum lol. I'm just too easy. We're not just a BBcode forum
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ronya posted:I don't have any handy links to a lit review of the whole thing that I would call good, but on this topic, I feel that for context and sense-motive reasons, it may make it easier to understand where the Randall Wrays of the world are coming from if one also knows that that the sheer fury of the UBI-vs-UJG argument has its roots in 1970s-vintage Keynesian wars over the causes of stagflation (to wit, whether it would have been sufficient to 'cap and trade' inflation, or whether detailed indicative planning was required - hinging on one's embedded understanding of where wage-price spirals and cost-push pressures are really coming from) that was also the takeaway from the californian one. look at that headline for instance https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/mar/03/california-universal-basic-income-study
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For those interested in the labour / antisemitism stuff and also Palestine, two free ebooks: From Verso books: https://www.versobooks.com/books/3922-how-the-ehrc-got-it-so-wrong How the EHRC Got It So Wrong Antisemitism and the Labour Party by Jewish Voice for Labour Introduction by Geoffrey Bindman and From Haymarket books https://www.haymarketbooks.org/books/1558-palestine-a-socialist-introduction Palestine: A Socialist Introduction Edited by Sumaya Awad and Brian Bean I haven't read either of them yet as only just got hold of them.
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