Charlz Guybon posted:

Hollywood and Bollywood were passed up for this?

Lord Hypnostache posted:

I'm still not quite sure what the term contemporary refers to Humankind's case. Is it the cold war era or like, today?

Magil Zeal posted:

Apparently there are some new videos popping up showcasing the Industrial era from a press event--though it was possible in the Victor OpenDev to research into the Industrial era as the Joseon (I finished the tech tree in two of my games) and see most of the stuff there, minus the wonders and actually playing the cultures. My impression is that the game starts to really snowball in terms of numbers in the Early Modern/Industrial eras. I don't have much experience with the Endless series since I always bounced off it when I reached the midgame, so I don't have much of a point of comparison there.

Also, Sweden.
https://twitter.com/humankindgame/status/1399757738222235657

Charlz Guybon posted:

Swedes are a ridiculous choice for a modern era civ. They should have just bit the bullet and made a European Union civ.

The Human Crouton posted:

Contemporary culture
Emblematic unit : soldier
Emblematic building : house

Fur20 posted:

america
emblematic unit: hillbilly militia
emblematic building: beer barn

Charlz Guybon posted:

Swedes are a ridiculous choice for a modern era civ. They should have just bit the bullet and made a European Union civ.

Davincie posted:

I don’t really get why theyre a science civ. is it just the Nobel prize? They may spend a fair amount on it but Sweden would never be the first nation I think of for science

Det_no posted:

Sweden has more researchers per million inhabitants than the US, Japan, Germany, etc...

http://uis.unesco.org/apps/visualisations/research-and-development-spending/

And they spend just as much of their GDP on it too.

It's like every time a new nation is revealed, people come and get surprised foreigners don't live in mud huts nor do they poo poo on their hands.

Josef bugman posted:

Is it any weirder than building nuclear arms in 1120 or declaring that Christianity is a blood cult based on worshiping the divine mother? So much of Civ is weird as hell when it's thought about.

Turin Turambar posted:

That's realistic. If human civilization would have focused on science and technology for the last 3000 years instead of only the last 300 years, we would have got nuclear weapons (and all the rest of modern stuff) way before. In our world, civilizations spent too much % of resources in wars and religion.
If humankind would have set the science slider to 20% like people do in Civilization games, at this point we would have colonies on Saturn moons and poo poo.

Turin Turambar posted:

That's realistic. If human civilization would have focused on science and technology for the last 3000 years instead of only the last 300 years, we would have got nuclear weapons (and all the rest of modern stuff) way before. In our world, civilizations spent too much % of resources in wars and religion.
If humankind would have set the science slider to 20% like people do in Civilization games, at this point we would have colonies on Saturn moons and poo poo.

Deltasquid posted:

Sweden was probably just included to hit their European countries quota so it sells well in that country. They should indeed bite the bullet and just make Europe represented by the EU in the contemporary era and call it a day.

Kassad posted:

Good luck defining a EU culture.

preamble to the EU Treaties posted:

HIS MAJESTY THE KING OF THE BELGIANS, HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN OF DENMARK, THE PRESIDENT OF THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF GERMANY, THE PRESIDENT OF IRELAND, THE PRESIDENT OF THE HELLENIC REPUBLIC, HIS MAJESTY THE KING OF SPAIN, THE PRESIDENT OF THE FRENCH REPUBLIC, THE PRESIDENT OF THE ITALIAN REPUBLIC, HIS ROYAL HIGHNESS THE GRAND DUKE OF LUXEMBOURG, HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN OF THE NETHERLANDS, THE PRESIDENT OF THE PORTUGUESE REPUBLIC, HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN OF THE UNITED KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN AND NORTHERN IRELAND, ( 1 )

RESOLVED to mark a new stage in the process of European integration undertaken with the establishment of the European Communities,

DRAWING INSPIRATION from the cultural, religious and humanist inheritance of Europe, from which have developed the universal values of the inviolable and inalienable rights of the human person, freedom, democracy, equality and the rule of law,

RECALLING the historic importance of the ending of the division of the European continent and the need to create firm bases for the construction of the future Europe,

CONFIRMING their attachment to the principles of liberty, democracy and respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms and of the rule of law,

CONFIRMING their attachment to fundamental social rights as defined in the European Social Charter signed at Turin on 18 October 1961 and in the 1989 Community Charter of the Fundamental Social Rights of Workers,

DESIRING to deepen the solidarity between their peoples while respecting their history, their culture and their traditions,

DESIRING to enhance further the democratic and efficient functioning of the institutions so as to enable them better to carry out, within a single institutional framework, the tasks entrusted to them,

RESOLVED to achieve the strengthening and the convergence of their economies and to establish an economic and monetary union including, in accordance with the provisions of this Treaty and of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union, a single and stable currency,

DETERMINED to promote economic and social progress for their peoples, taking into account the principle of sustainable development and within the context of the accomplishment of the internal market and of reinforced cohesion and environmental protection, and to implement policies ensuring that advances in economic integration are accompanied by parallel progress in other fields,

RESOLVED to establish a citizenship common to nationals of their countries,

RESOLVED to implement a common foreign and security policy including the progressive framing of a common defence policy, which might lead to a common defence in accordance with the provisions of Article 42, thereby reinforcing the European identity and its independence in order to promote peace, security and progress in Europe and in the world,

RESOLVED to facilitate the free movement of persons, while ensuring the safety and security of their peoples, by establishing an area of freedom, security and justice, in accordance with the provisions of this Treaty and of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union,

RESOLVED to continue the process of creating an ever closer union among the peoples of Europe, in which decisions are taken as closely as possible to the citizen in accordance with the principle of subsidiarity,

IN VIEW of further steps to be taken in order to advance European integration,
HAVE DECIDED to establish a European Union and to this end have designated as their Plenipotentiaries:

Buller posted:

EU:

Party civilisation

Emblatic building: Discotheque.

Davincie posted:

Don't be so demeaning, i already mentioned their science spending. your own site already shows a more obvious choice for a science civ, korea.

if you look at what sweden is mostly known for today it's not science, its diplomacy, its social democracy. They have the Visby class corvette, but is that really what you think of first when you think of Sweden? If Russia has a Soviet Union theme, why not keep the cold war theme up by giving sweden the Stridsvagn? Why not a unit that somehow uses their diplomatic skills? Why use the Avicii Arena for a research institute when its an arena? It was sponsored by Ericsson for a while sure, but not build by them nor used for research.

People can think there's odd choices in civ design!

AnEdgelord posted:

I just wish they tried harder to find a more interesting name than "research institute" which is so generic that it could literally be the generic science building in the contemporary period and I wouldnt notice.

Magil Zeal posted:

Wait until you hear that the next two "emblematic" districts revealed will probably be Robotics Lab and Public School for the Japanese and the Turks, respectively.

Lowen posted:

In my experience, all the Amplitude 4x games are numbers snowballing: the movie: the game.

Turin Turambar posted:

That's realistic. If human civilization would have focused on science and technology for the last 3000 years instead of only the last 300 years, we would have got nuclear weapons (and all the rest of modern stuff) way before. In our world, civilizations spent too much % of resources in wars and religion.
If humankind would have set the science slider to 20% like people do in Civilization games, at this point we would have colonies on Saturn moons and poo poo.

Beamed posted:

goons lmfao

Dayton Sports Bar posted:

Little Abigail posted:

Wow, that sure is ignoring the rest of the world there, which was doing just fine during the “Dark Ages”.

Like the Indian and Muslim golden ages of science were in that period, not even mentioning Asia and the rest of the world.

Voyager I posted:

(he's posting the graph to make fun of the other guy)

Little Abigail posted:

(Let’s just pretend I was ragging on the graph there as well!)