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forkboy84 posted:A Scottish boxer was involved in a title fight in Las Vegas last night and it has gotten such little coverage that I'm amazed. It was a fight between a former Commonwealth gold medallist who held 2 of the big 4 world titles and was undefeated against an American who was an Olympian, had the other 2 World titles and was also undefeated. Nobody gives a poo poo about all the weird weight classes that sprouted during the 80s so Don King could have 15 different world titles - the only light-welterweights anyone's ever heard of are former lightweight champions who couldn't make weight or slowed down too much and were on their way up to middleweight for one last pay packet.
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forkboy84 posted:A Scottish boxer was involved in a title fight in Las Vegas last night and it has gotten such little coverage that I'm amazed. It was a fight between a former Commonwealth gold medallist who held 2 of the big 4 world titles and was undefeated against an American who was an Olympian, had the other 2 World titles and was also undefeated. It's the headline all over the sports section of the BBC just now? Non heavyweight titles always attract less coverage and with the way boxing is syndicated its hard to cover until its over for a lot of press. I couldn't find highlights even now.
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May 23, 2021 09:57
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loving hell 115 quid a day would buy me so much curry they wouldn't need to deliver it, just toss it out the window and let gravity do the rest accretion disc made of garlic naan
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May 23, 2021 10:02
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stev posted:Thinking about this he'd basically have to order a three course restaurant meal for him and Carrie every single day. Or a smaller fancier meal. Learn to cook, man. Needs to learn about Lidl or Aldi tbh
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May 23, 2021 10:09
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Big Dinners Johnson. He's Eating Out to Help Out and setting an example for the nation 
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May 23, 2021 10:15
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PNGYAKUZA posted:https://twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/status/1396214307227045890 This strikes me like the 'cardboard models of buses' in that he's caught scrambling for some kind of 'what do normal people do in their free time?' excuse and makes up a hilarious lie.
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May 23, 2021 10:39
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Ghost Leviathan posted:This strikes me like the 'cardboard models of buses' in that he's caught scrambling for some kind of 'what do normal people do in their free time?' excuse and makes up a hilarious lie. Remember, they weren't cardboard, they were made from wine crates, because he couldn't just say he lazed about all day getting incredibly pissed E: Didn't watch the Eurovision but I'm glad these traditions live on https://twitter.com/iresimpsonsfans/status/1396403554936672256?s=19 Failed Imagineer fucked around with this message at 10:55 on May 23, 2021 |
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May 23, 2021 10:42
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Aramoro posted:It's the headline all over the sports section of the BBC just now? Non heavyweight titles always attract less coverage and with the way boxing is syndicated its hard to cover until its over for a lot of press. I couldn't find highlights even now. I hadn't looked at the website, was going off 6Music's headlines. I know Heavyweight attracts the most attention because people like KOs and the weight class is a bit daft but you're telling me a unified Champion isn't a big deal? Ah well, hope Taylor gets his due if he steps up to face Crawford, though winning that would be a huge ask.
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May 23, 2021 10:55
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Nobody gives a poo poo about all the weird weight classes that sprouted during the 80s so Don King could have 15 different world titles - the only light-welterweights anyone's ever heard of are former lightweight champions who couldn't make weight or slowed down too much and were on their way up to middleweight for one last pay packet. Also there's 4 (?) different organisations now that each have all those weight classes.
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May 23, 2021 11:02
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forkboy84 posted:I know Heavyweight attracts the most attention because people like KOs and the weight class is a bit daft but you're telling me a unified Champion isn't a big deal? Ah well, hope Taylor gets his due if he steps up to face Crawford, though winning that would be a huge ask.
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May 23, 2021 11:27
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Except competitive shooting, where a gender division was introduced because the women kept winning, but popular interest is still massively disproportionately towards the men's events.
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May 23, 2021 11:33
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Pablo Bluth posted:Doesn't Heavyweight get all the attention because if you abolished weight classes, the guys who'd world champion would still be the heavyweight end of the scale? Popular interest is always massively disproportionately towards whatever league/tier/division/other that contains the individuals/teams that would win any match-up. see also: women's sports.
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May 23, 2021 11:34
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You all need to get into ultra endurance running if you want a level playing field.
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May 23, 2021 11:44
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Nobody wants to watch a couple of tiny lil guys boxing lol
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May 23, 2021 11:46
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forkboy84 posted:I hadn't looked at the website, was going off 6Music's headlines. It's always been that way - heavyweight's always going to be the blue riband event just because it's most accessible to non-fans, then lightweight for the true heads. Middleweight kinda comes in and out of vogue as it seesaws between the two in terms of style (and for me has always been the most interesting class just for that reason - any division that's had both Jake LaMotta and Oscar De La Hoya as world champions is worth keeping an eye on). The inbetween categories - especially light/super - are never going to get that level of fame because it's so much more lucrative for fighters to move to the nearest of that big three, which is what keeps those big three lucrative, and so on. What's actually happened is that boxing is now way less popular than it once was - MMA has taken a huge amount of its hype, and the completely opaque and self-serving ranking and championship format turns off both casual followers (who just want to know "winner of this fight is best") and the former big fans who can see just how manipulated the ladder is by the promoters. I'm fairly certain all but the very biggest bouts get way worse PPV numbers than UFC (or Wrestlemania at this point lol), and the whole sport is just sliding into obscurity. It'll probably never slide back as badly as, say, speedway (once the fourth most-popular spectator sport in the country, now very likely to go completely bust) but the days when the entire country would be discussing the Big Title Bout are long gone.
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Keef backing the tories againquote:Sir Keir Starmer, MP for Holborn and St Pancras, has personally pushed for the erection of nine-foot tall aluminium barriers across Primrose Hill in north London. It's in his constituency. https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1396397229339029504?s=20
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May 23, 2021 11:47
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crispix posted:the boxer men should kisse instead imo Only if they're big guys E: Big Cum Dom is at it again, fake or not https://twitter.com/Dominic2306/status/1396417250391957504?s=19 Failed Imagineer fucked around with this message at 12:00 on May 23, 2021 |
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May 23, 2021 11:53
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He writes and talks exactly like a boss I once had who was a tech ceo that made millions doing cellular encryption and sunk it all into game development. He would come up with wild ideas like trying to convince blizzard to let us use their assets and wrote long screeds on how to fix issues on twitter just like that. He was often right, but came off as so abrasive and in your face that only other people of the same type would give him the time of day. Which was entirely enough to get shitloads of investment and advancement. I do wonder if I've been doing it all wrong these years by mostly keeping my opinions firmly to myself other than the occasional bit of chatter on here.
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Comrade Fakename posted:https://twitter.com/isaysto/status/1395849146855313410 It's a riff on "Labour sources" saying Corbyn should come clean on whether he has had the vaccine.
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May 23, 2021 12:39
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The real fun part is going to be Starmer not giving a straight answer as to what his own name is
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Ghost Leviathan posted:This strikes me like the 'cardboard models of buses' in that he's caught scrambling for some kind of 'what do normal people do in their free time?' excuse and makes up a hilarious lie. It wasn't a hilarious lie, it was a calculated way to change Google results for 'Boris bus' to bury awkward pictures of the £300mill for NHS promise. And it worked.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:The real fun part is going to be Starmer not giving a straight answer as to what his own name is uguughughghh i believe thut peopul huv a name and the name thut a persun hus us thuh name they ought to be called uuurrhghghrghghhhh
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OzyMandrill posted:It wasn't a hilarious lie, it was a calculated way to change Google results for 'Boris bus' to bury awkward pictures of the £300mill for NHS promise. And it worked. I'm pretty sure both are massively dwarfed by the new tfl buses he was associated with introducing.
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Failed Imagineer posted:Nobody wants to watch a couple of tiny lil guys boxing lol It's basketball for short people. sinky posted:Keef backing the tories again What a kiece of poo poo.
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Boris Johnson is spending the 'takeaway' money on fancy bottles of booze and a couple of meals from gourmet restaurants that don't normally deliver, but will happily make an exception for the Prime Minister. Six bottles of Moët champagne will cost a couple of hundred quid and that's before you get in the eye-wateringly expensive bottles of whisky for an after-dinner tipple to help digestion. Is boxing getting less promotion because there's greater awareness of the nuerological damage from contact sports? Obvoiusly everyone knows KOs are bad and boxers periodically die in the ring, but even repeated mild head trauma is linked to devastating brain damage by middle age. At what point does boxing become too problematic to heavily promote?
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May 23, 2021 13:10
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May 23, 2021 13:11
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Also some goon got me and my partner into sumo. The May Cup just happened and apparently there's a 2 week cup every 2 months There's no weight classes at all and the small guys regularly beat bigger guys it's pretty cool It's incredibly brutally exploitative in a way that keeps the drama for each match super high for each wrestler but is genuinely barbaric. Like you can't take injury time off at all until you reach the top rank, and there's only a single guy at that rank (who is the greatest sumo in recorded history) and they hate him for taking time off
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Keith isn't going to keep his seat at the next General Election, so why not go full-on scorched earth and get some brown-nose points with the rich.
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Lady Demelza posted:Boris Johnson is spending the 'takeaway' money on fancy bottles of booze and a couple of meals from gourmet restaurants that don't normally deliver, but will happily make an exception for the Prime Minister. Six bottles of Moët champagne will cost a couple of hundred quid and that's before you get in the eye-wateringly expensive bottles of whisky for an after-dinner tipple to help digestion. It's not that, it just got boring. Michael Watson didn't really hurt the sport, UFC turning from circus sideshow to legitimate sport did. Also boxing FWIW is a lot better for CTE than many sports. A *long* pro boxing career will be 40 bouts and even a poo poo boxer is only going to take a few big shots to the head in a fight, whereas a footballer will play 40 or more matches a season and (especially in a Sam Allardyce team) might head the ball, hard, 10 or more times a game, and football, rugby, and even cricket (which believe it or not has a death rate higher than boxing) used to (and still do, to an extent) encourage players to play on with very obvious concussions that would get a boxing match stopped immediately.
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Pablo Bluth posted:Doesn't Heavyweight get all the attention because if you abolished weight classes, the guys who'd world champion would still be the heavyweight end of the scale? Popular interest is always massively disproportionately towards whatever league/tier/division/other that contains the individuals/teams that would win any match-up. I dunno, the biggest MMA stars in history are a Welterweight & a Featherweight who moved to Lightweight (Georges St Pierre & Conor McGregor respectively). And the biggest boxing stars of recent times have been Welterweights Floyd Mayweather & Manny Pacquiao. Ricky Hatton fought at the same weight as Taylor for a large chunk of his career & got plenty of media coverage. I don't think Taylor should be getting blanket coverage, but a British champion in even the discussion for an undisputed title fight hasn't happened since Joe Calazghe over a decade ago & there hasn't been one at all since 2000. You'd think that BT Sport or Channel 5 or ITV 4, someone like that could find a spot for it on their presumably not very busy 1am-4am timeslot, & it could get a few inches of space in newspaper sport sections. Coz I mean, it was a significant fight, & it was always likely to be a very exciting one. Mostly I'm just mad I almost missed it coz it was a real good fight & the Scottish guy won, which is rare enough. In fairness, I'm also the weirdo who prefers the circus sideshow days of MMA when rules were few & far between & really fat guys watched tiny guys literally run in circles around them. Everyone is too good now so are basically evenly matched. We need to go back to the good old days of booking Fedor against Zuluzhino & Cro Cop beating a masked wrestler. forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 13:59 on May 23, 2021 |
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Everyone with even a marginal interest in sport should watch Fighting in the Age of Loneliness, noted documentary genius Jon Bois' masterpiece, covering the entire history of MMA. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DoaUyMGPWI Gyro Zeppeli fucked around with this message at 14:37 on May 23, 2021 |
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Guavanaut posted:Except competitive shooting, where a gender division was introduced because the women kept winning, but popular interest is still massively disproportionately towards the men's events. That's interesting, wonder what the actual % divide was. 
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Just Another Lurker posted:That's interesting, wonder what the actual % divide was. It wasn't even overrepresentation, if I remember right, it was a Chinese woman in the late 80s/early 90s who won 4 back to back Olympic golds, then mysteriously they decided to gender segregate just before she'd go for a fifth.
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Yeah, it's happened a couple of times, but the most obvious butthurt was in Olympic skeet/clay:wiki posted:The event was introduced in 1968, and until 1992 both men and women were allowed to participate. But in 1996 the event was limited to men only, which was somewhat controversial because the 1992 Olympic Champion was a woman, Shan Zhang of China. In 2000, a female skeet event was introduced.
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I tried to explain eurovision to my housemates from India, they were not amused. Something something cultural barriers. I think they thought it was severely uncool along the lines of Britain's got talent and the like, but then they've never heard of it before, so. Private Speech fucked around with this message at 15:38 on May 23, 2021 |
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