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NXT's problem is it's part of WWE. It's not complicated lol Edit: drat compromised this page to a permanent end
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Astro7x posted:It’s just as lovely as when those people were not champs and taking up just as much screen time. You just said you don't watch it and read results so how would you know? Like it's fine to have an opinion, but you can't go "well I don't think I missed much" and then go "it's lovely" because you have nothing to base that opinion off of. Reading recaps isn't the same as watching. Like there are a lot of good things they put on that are enjoyable. But I can also understand that people may not want to invest time into it because WWE messed up by having people they move off the brand end up doing jack poo poo, and that does make it hard to really get behind people because there's a sense that eventually they'll just be ruined. That's a valid complaint. But the show itself is mostly entertaining, with solid talent putting on good matches and some decent storylines, and some really good comedy stuff. And I do think putting it on TV has hurt it, because beforehand you would get full matches without interruption, and that made it more the wrestling brand. You still get a lot more in-ring action than either Raw or Smackdown, but it's not as different from those shows as it used to be. But it's still worth watching, especially over the other two main shows.
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May 27, 2021 01:16
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Gonzo McFee posted:I will take a thousand Mauroisms over a single McMahon parroted Box like Structure. There's a reason why Impact made sure to get Mauro to call Omega winning the belt. He's a really great announcer (and actually similar to Excalibur in a lot of ways, tbh) when he doesn't have the WWE machine forcing him to hit their branding every 10 seconds and trying to sand off the edges that make him fun.
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May 27, 2021 01:41
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Codependent Poster posted:You just said you don't watch it and read results so how would you know? Like it's fine to have an opinion, but you can't go "well I don't think I missed much" and then go "it's lovely" because you have nothing to base that opinion off of. Reading recaps isn't the same as watching. it sucks OP lol
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May 27, 2021 01:52
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Alan_Shore posted:NXT's problem is it's part of WWE. It's not complicated lol Yeah, but it used to feel like it wasn't and that was nice
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May 27, 2021 01:56
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Codependent Poster posted:You just said you don't watch it and read results so how would you know? Like it's fine to have an opinion, but you can't go "well I don't think I missed much" and then go "it's lovely" because you have nothing to base that opinion off of. Reading recaps isn't the same as watching. I got love for you and I feel everything you're saying, but there's never a situation where this forum is going to be cool with anyone enjoying any element of it, and i don't mean validating you or me or anyone else whoever enjoys WWE in any way, but the the people who are left here just don't want to hear it, I changed every thought I had coming here just so I'd no longer get in arguments with people, it's just not worth it. For what it's worth I see your posts that are positive about wrestling all over and I appreciate them, and also you. Wrestling is good all over the world, that's a fact at least.
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May 27, 2021 01:57
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WWE is an objectively evil company. You can't wordsmith your way around it no matter how much you enjoy watching Taargus Taargus
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May 27, 2021 02:00
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wwe needs to bring back limp bizkit for next mania
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May 27, 2021 02:05
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maybe even bring out a dmx hologram for rollin’ (urban assault vehicle)
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May 27, 2021 02:06
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wes borland is a draw
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May 27, 2021 02:10
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NXT is long past the days where HHH was hiring all of the ready made stars that were available to make him look like a genius. It isn’t some conspiracy that it’s no longer the hot product. They ran through the Samoa Joe’s, Steens, and Shinsukes and now actually have to build up stars, and for the most part suck at it just like they always have, except it matters now. It’s an incredibly tedious weekly show with aimless booking, and wrestlers that can be called up and wasted at any moment. At this point it is essentially Raw with Skulls. They occasionally still put on a good Takeover match still, because it would be hard not to back into a good match with some of the wrestlers they have, but that hasn’t made for a compelling weekly product to follow. There aren’t many must see moments or captivating stars. The only good thing about it is that it’s a well documented project of HHH wasting millions of dollars to prove he can’t run the company.
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May 27, 2021 02:11
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ShallNoiseUpon posted:wes borland is a draw but you need the korn guy for the true XIX tribute
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May 27, 2021 02:12
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ShallNoiseUpon posted:wes borland is a draw The Home Improvement guy?
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May 27, 2021 02:13
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explosivo posted:The Home Improvement guy? no that was al borland his father
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May 27, 2021 02:16
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Sure, NXT used to be must-watch but a lot of the show doesn't have the same charm it used to so now it's a lot more like WWE without Vince instead of a real alternative. I'll watch the clips of Sarray, Cameron Grimes, and Dexter Lumis because they're entertaining to me but Io Shirai has plateau'd since they don't have her involved in actual stories and Kyle O'Riley has gotten aggressively lame, and not in the endearing way he used to be. When there's already easily 6-10 hours of good wrestling content a week I don't need to spend another 2 on "good enough" products like NXT. AEW showed me what a true alternative WWE product and I just can pull myself into watching the whole 2 hours of NXT.
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May 27, 2021 02:20
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Is there an argument that they've tried to turn O'Reilly into their answer to Adam Page and WWE'd it up?
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May 27, 2021 02:30
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explosivo posted:The Home Improvement guy? I don't think so, Fred
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May 27, 2021 02:58
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Gaz-L posted:Is there an argument that they've tried to turn O'Reilly into their answer to Adam Page and WWE'd it up? No, he's Sunny D Cassidy now.
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May 27, 2021 03:00
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Eat My Fuc posted:I got love for you and I feel everything you're saying, but there's never a situation where this forum is going to be cool with anyone enjoying any element of it, and i don't mean validating you or me or anyone else whoever enjoys WWE in any way, but the the people who are left here just don't want to hear it, I changed every thought I had coming here just so I'd no longer get in arguments with people, it's just not worth it. I appreciate it! I mean, this place is fun to make fun of bad stuff too. I just don't understand the mentality of thinking everything is bad. Watch any show, enjoy the good parts, make fun of the bad parts. I'll watch wrestling on TV. poo poo, I watched Impact for as long as it was on a channel that was actually available and not some super obscure thing, and those were super bad but I still enjoyed posting about them. And honestly if I didn't give most things I watch the MST3k treatment and post about them with people here, I probably wouldn't watch them. But it's okay to admit there are good things along with bad things. Plus Cameron Grimes is great and I want people to be aware of that, and the Dexter/Indi stuff is goofy fun. If you told me they would be able to put the serial killer wrestler into a goofy romance angle, I never would've believed it, but they did.
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May 27, 2021 03:08
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Codependent Poster posted:You just said you don't watch it and read results so how would you know? Like it's fine to have an opinion, but you can't go "well I don't think I missed much" and then go "it's lovely" because you have nothing to base that opinion off of. Reading recaps isn't the same as watching. How long have you been watching wrestling that you think NXT in 2021 is putting out good shows? I've been watching since 1996, and this is by far the least interesting content this company has produced ever. You don't have to watch the show religiously to know it's garbage and to catch the odd segment that may be funny or halfway decent. I'm sure Franky Money is going to have several more weeks of squash matches, and Dakota/Raquel are going to face Shotzi/Ember in some different combination of matches until the next TakeOver. Cameron Grimes is going to do some more skits about how rich he is... who cares? I'd rather watch a movie or something. Wrestling is not the only form of entertainment. PPVs are still decent, but I don't have to watch all 162 games of my fave baseball team to enjoy the playoffs. JUNGLE BOY posted:NXT is long past the days where HHH was hiring all of the ready made stars that were available to make him look like a genius. It isn’t some conspiracy that it’s no longer the hot product. They ran through the Samoa Joe’s, Steens, and Shinsukes and now actually have to build up stars, and for the most part suck at it just like they always have, except it matters now. This is why I can't watch anymore. Imagine taking that 2015 roster and squandering most of them, now you're left with performance center failures.
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May 27, 2021 03:26
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I'm willing to concede that there's probably stuff on NXT that's entertaining in a vacuum, Cameron Grimes and Hit Row both seem good, but it's impossible to believe for even a second that any of it is gonna go anywhere, so like, who cares.Eat My Fuc posted:I changed every thought I had coming here just so I'd no longer get in arguments with people, it's just not worth it. You could've just left.
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May 27, 2021 03:57
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MJeff posted:I'm willing to concede that there's probably stuff on NXT that's entertaining in a vacuum, Cameron Grimes and Hit Row both seem good, but it's impossible to believe for even a second that any of it is gonna go anywhere, so like, who cares. Yeah, I get this criticism and it's totally valid. I've been watching since I was a kid, couldn't even tell you what age. I lived through the New Generation era. I watched the Black Scorpion stuff in WCW. I've seen some poo poo.
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May 27, 2021 04:02
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The company doesn't think NXT is prestigious so its basically Main Event but with titles. Until they change their mind and its an Important Thing but wrestling fans don't forgive that easily with WWE. Its bleeds fans, this is numbers facts. When it was produced with Full Sail production, it felt like its own thing, visual style completely separate from WWE/Dunn. So of course when they started to shop it as a TV product that had to be scrubbed. Not every wrestling television show needs a 20 camera setup. Sometimes a hardcam and two handcams is all you need. The talent spread is great if you didn't see the DVDs or webcasts. Some of these guys are still doing the same schtick they were doing ten years ago. And it works if you didn't see it killed in some barn or a mania weekend show. Plus you have people trying to hype it as the best thing ever when other people are like "it was cooler when the dudes did this match with working knees." Also that set is drab as gently caress. How do you have all that loving lighting and production and it looks like the basement of a bingo hall?
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May 27, 2021 04:11
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https://twitter.com/ryansatin/status/1397382278167240707
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May 27, 2021 04:13
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yessss keep licking that boot
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May 27, 2021 04:15
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Numbering WWE matches is a pretty good troll. Personally I preferred Roman v Corbin 6.
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May 27, 2021 04:18
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If people want to come here to be positive about stuff in WWE they enjoyed you can just let them enjoy it in between laughing at Alexa Bliss segments.
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May 27, 2021 04:21
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I’d probably like Kross more if he didn’t strike me as a de-aged HHH
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May 27, 2021 04:21
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his valet sucks at emoting all of a sudden, dude can't loving work, yeah he's gonna be Vince's new fave. Enjoy that Corbin spot. Which tbh is pretty easy money. Corbin has nice stuff.
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May 27, 2021 04:22
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not a fan of this ryan satin guy
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May 27, 2021 04:22
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coconono posted:his valet sucks at emoting all of a sudden, dude can't loving work, yeah he's gonna be Vince's new fave. Enjoy that Corbin spot. Which tbh is pretty easy money. Corbin has nice stuff. NXT is explicitly a minor league they are trying to learn these skills, please give them a break.
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May 27, 2021 04:26
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I have never seen this Kross guy, but lol at saying that the measurement of how good he is is determined by how hypothetically over he'd be in RAW or Smackdown, where they buried almost everyone called up in the last 3 years.
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May 27, 2021 04:28
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Vince and/or Dunn are going to see Scarlett Bordeaux eventually and decide that Karion Kross isn't attractive enough to be with her, so they'll be split up as Kross feuds with Baron Corbin or something.
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May 27, 2021 04:34
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Kross had some fun stuff in AAA and did a very good Bloodsport match. I think if he did more UWFi stuff and less and WWE stuff he'd have more value. They're trying to make him wrestling the WWE Main Event style and that hasn't worked since Hogan. Its too spot oriented. They do stuff with no logic or flow and by god they're getting all their poo poo in regardless of the match length. Kross looked very natural fighting defensively against shooters until his window opened. Plus having Savinovich blab about his college days didn't help matters.
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May 27, 2021 04:37
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Codependent Poster posted:But it's still worth watching, especially over the other two main shows. yeah. it's still decent. raw is absolutely loving dire and sd isnt far behind. but it's fallen a lot like it feels like everything went to hell when they fed rhea to charlotte at mania. it hasn't been the same since. like women's wargames was loving awesome and everything since last april is aggressively meh i remember before the pandemic hit nxt was gearing up for walter/balor. idk how you build back to that level of hype with molon labe kross Codependent Poster posted:Plus Cameron Grimes is great and I want people to be aware of that, and the Dexter/Indi stuff is goofy fun yeah. the way is goofy and actually funny. nxt doesnt need more gyv or la knights. please call up kross and get him the gently caress off nxt he sucks
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May 27, 2021 04:38
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MJeff posted:You could've just left. yea that would have been awesome, a forum of you would be really great and funny and not a drag at all
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May 27, 2021 04:38
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this 35 year old might be ready for the big leagues one of these days
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May 27, 2021 04:39
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Kross is going to come to the main roster and instantly become the new Rusev. It's going to be cuck angles galore for him and Scarlett!
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May 27, 2021 04:41
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NXT is usually OK at worst which makes it head and shoulders above anything else that WWE does
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Also this forum has lost people and is poorer for it. Driving people off isn't cool, unless they're creeps or something. Kross is also like the smallest "big guy" I've seen. I also don't get why he puts his hand to his head for the finishing move. It looks dumb.
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