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Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


Yossarian-22 posted:

malthusian thought was probably just an attempt to explain away his virginity

Everything old is new again

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ArfJason
Sep 5, 2011

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

MeatwadIsGod posted:

The GOAT is that footnote in the chapter on the Law of Capitalist Accumulation where Marx goes off on Malthus and the other Protestant parson bourgeois economists. It's one of the times in Capital when his footnote runs on for like 3 pages uninterrupted lol
That's like only a quarter of the footnote

I hope there's a book on tape that includes this somehow without breaking context or a sweat

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

also, isn't that five mods for you now, Arf? it's at least four and two IKs if that's accurate

Finicums Wake
Mar 13, 2017
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arf is a masterful troll but i wish they'd drop the shtick and discuss politics with us from time to time

Tiler Kiwi
Feb 26, 2011
i saw him get mad about goons being incredibly wrong about south american politics, once

Zodium
Jun 19, 2004

docbeard posted:

Arfjason has accomplished more with one letter than Stalin with all his battallions.

im a marxist-leninist-arfjasonist now

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Tiler Kiwi posted:

i saw him get mad about goons being incredibly wrong about south american politics, once

you can try and talk soccer, but at your own peril

lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
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i hope arfjason continues to troll the marxism thread by sincerely discussing political theory through image macros

Finicums Wake
Mar 13, 2017
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lollontee posted:

i hope arfjason continues to troll the marxism thread by sincerely discussing political theory through image macros

now this is dialectics

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

lollontee posted:

i hope arfjason continues to troll the marxism thread by sincerely discussing political theory through image macros

rip your av lol

lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
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ah sweet summer child...

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
she in the LC tonight. RIP that avi (ay)

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
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Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

you're not an ultramoderator harry, don't be a pedo

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

lollontee posted:

i hope arfjason continues to troll the marxism thread by sincerely discussing political theory through image macros

Agreed, his trolling has resulted in several trump thread posters defend loli porn lmfao.

swimsuit
Jan 22, 2009

yeah
flavius has been dethroned, the trmup thread has been gassed

apropos come and post w us again

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
great, now the trump thread posters are going to do a school shooting or something

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

exmarx posted:

great, now the trump thread posters are going to do a school shooting or something

I think the short bus driver would notice if one of them was bringing a gun to school.

Trash Ops
Jun 19, 2012

im having fun, isnt everyone else?

excited to read black bolshevik

F Stop Fitzgerald
Dec 12, 2010

Trash Ops posted:

excited to read black bolshevik

its good op

The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020

what would be a feasible way to establish a media and a visible, stable culture that espouses proletarian values?

like, what would a rock band unironically singing upbeat songs about wealth and wage equity even look like?

is it possible to make free food projects and political study/discussion groups things that aren't relegated to small groups of nerds, but are main stream activities?

KaptainKrunk
Feb 6, 2006


indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

The Voice of Labor posted:

like, what would a rock band unironically singing upbeat songs about wealth and wage equity even look like?

they’re not all upbeat but this absolutely exists

The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020

anything with any degree of popularity? system of a down was a long time ago. I doubt more than one out of 100 or 200 people know about the coup

ArfJason
Sep 5, 2011

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

The Voice of Labor posted:

like, what would a rock band unironically singing upbeat songs about wealth and wage equity even look like?

Rage Against The Machine

The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020


I'm sorry I didn't append a 2 page long barthes quote but media is what compels people to accept and endorse beliefs and activities counter to their better interests. there's no john lennon telling smelly hippies to imagine a better world, there's no smelly hippies. is there a tik tok equivalent? is it a big enough bloc to establish and maintain political power? I dunno and I suspect I'm too old to understand it if there is

emTme3
Nov 7, 2012

by Hand Knit
there's a fuckload of hippies bro

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004


I got it and I still need to try it!! there's only a beta for a weekend

bagual
Oct 29, 2010

inconspicuous

The Voice of Labor posted:

I'm sorry I didn't append a 2 page long barthes quote but media is what compels people to accept and endorse beliefs and activities counter to their better interests. there's no john lennon telling smelly hippies to imagine a better world, there's no smelly hippies. is there a tik tok equivalent? is it a big enough bloc to establish and maintain political power? I dunno and I suspect I'm too old to understand it if there is

john lennon was a liberal who beat his wife and loving sucked, the hippies were middle class larpers that went back to normal life the instant poo poo got serious, hope to have helped

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uWr8xBdUV0

Ferrinus
Jun 19, 2003

i'm finding this quite easy, i guess in part because i'm a fast type but also because i have a coherent mental model of the world
“During the Vietnam War, every respectable artist in this country was against the war. It was like a laser beam. We were all aimed in the same direction. The power of this weapon turns out to be that of a custard pie dropped from a stepladder six feet high.”

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

The Voice of Labor posted:

what would be a feasible way to establish a media and a visible, stable culture that espouses proletarian values?

Have a successful socialist revolution

quote:

like, what would a rock band unironically singing upbeat songs about wealth and wage equity even look like?

is it possible to make free food projects and political study/discussion groups things that aren't relegated to small groups of nerds, but are main stream activities?

Oh, you mean before? Idk ask Brecht. Typically cultural activities seem to come after mass organizing for political or economic reasons.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

The Voice of Labor posted:

anything with any degree of popularity?

no, for obvious reasons

The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020

bagual posted:

john lennon was a liberal who beat his wife and loving sucked, the hippies were middle class larpers that went back to normal life the instant poo poo got serious, hope to have helped

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uWr8xBdUV0

that actually doesn't help at all. it's ad hominem. doesn't matter if he was a forum moderator, he recorded imagine and millions of people listened to it and liked it and millions of people continue to listen to it and like it. by way of scattershot, some of them are bound to pay attention to the lyrics and some are bound to say "you know, he's right, I hadn't thought about that before" just by shear numbers alone. there isn't even that low bar being matched today and I'm not sure it's possible between media monopolization and algorithmic control of poo poo like youtube. I bring up this example and could say, like, bob dylan, not to laud them but to point out that it doesn't look like we're even allowed that anymore at any scale.

hippies had a bunch of sex and did a bunch of drugs, they got part of the schema totally right

bagual
Oct 29, 2010

inconspicuous

The Voice of Labor posted:

that actually doesn't help at all. it's ad hominem. doesn't matter if he was a forum moderator, he recorded imagine and millions of people listened to it and liked it and millions of people continue to listen to it and like it. by way of scattershot, some of them are bound to pay attention to the lyrics and some are bound to say "you know, he's right, I hadn't thought about that before" just by shear numbers alone. there isn't even that low bar being matched today and I'm not sure it's possible between media monopolization and algorithmic control of poo poo like youtube. I bring up this example and could say, like, bob dylan, not to laud them but to point out that it doesn't look like we're even allowed that anymore at any scale.

hippies had a bunch of sex and did a bunch of drugs, they got part of the schema totally right

here in brazil we have a bunch of sex and do a lot of drugs once a year, and everyday really, didn't stop a genocidal fascist from being elected

welcome to the desert of the real, these things you deem important didn't matter at all in the cold war, in fact it pacified a generation with childish dreams of political change without violent threats to power, and contributed to getting us to the horrible status quo

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012


i remember having to hold back tears in 8th grade because we were watching this documentary about the fifties and it got to a section about stalin's funeral

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

It was a safety valve for public distrust of the war in Vietnam and segregation, and as soon as the war ended the white people bailed.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

The hippies were pretty reactionary if you dig underneath the surface level liberal appeal of "free love," which was more often than not an excuse to trick women into accepting your philandering. When hippies tried forming communes to realize their utopic visions they almost all turned out to be absolute disasters where an insular clique ruled over everybody else with an iron fist. Liberationist rhetoric isn't a substitute for political discipline, and if there isn't a structure to check reactionary tendencies & petty tyrannies then the most charismatic people will take advantage of everyone.

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Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

"Fortunate Son" appealed to everyone, no matter if you were enlisted or appealed to your flat feet

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