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Paradoxish posted:It should have been Harry Kim that got his face stolen and then for the rest of the series it's just a Vidiian with Harry Kim's face and nobody cares agreed but the vidiian gets promoted and even goes on a date with 7 of 9.
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They should've let the Vidiian doctor lady stay on board, maybe the Doctor would've mellowed out sooner More Voyager spooky: 
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Voyager also aggressively debunked Neelix's afterlife which is more hilarious than spooky
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Tighclops posted:You can make the same argument about any other tools or technology with the potential to help people. What's your point? You really can't but keep being super mad that people think god king Jeff bezos is a bad future I guess.
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May 30, 2021 11:34
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But think how much more satisfying it'll be when some billionaire finally achieves their dream of eternal life, only to get hit by a bus and die anyway!
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May 30, 2021 12:45
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The laser grid from the first Resident Evil movie.
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May 30, 2021 12:49
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Epicurius posted:I mean, Star Trek has traditionally been very much "Twilight Zone on a Spaceship", ever since TOS. The ship is put in some weird or dangerous situation and has to figure out how to get out. This is a good descriptor of what has been missing in modern Trek. Hopefully the SNW guys get it.
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Josh Christ posted:You really can't but keep being super mad that people think god king Jeff bezos is a bad future I guess. Blaming technologies for the actions of evil people is short sighted and stupid. Jeff Bezos is going to be your god king with or without immortality, spaceships or amazon and nothing's going to change that until we upend the entire system that put him there. The riddle of steel, bitch
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May 30, 2021 19:17
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Khanstant posted:Who is the first criminal to get an immortal-life-sentence? Don't be silly, the laws will be changed to cap sentences at like 50 years. Of course, this doesn't help the poor (black) guys who were grandfathered in. Immortality kinda requires a much better society to work, but that's also what Star Trek is about : luxury space communism (not gay unfortunately) Speaking of Trill reassociation and gay, that episode was pretty hamfisted about the whole thing, and the ending was depressing. The moral seemed to be that you should just stay in the closet until a such time when society would accept your love. Also the bigots Had Some Good Points.
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There was that society in TNG that killed everyone at age 65, I thought that was because they lived too long otherwise. Anyway, even if you live forever you'll still die when the universe does.
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May 30, 2021 20:17
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Joke’s on you, the universe dies with me.
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May 30, 2021 20:20
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Mister Kingdom posted:The worst part of living for hundreds of years is all those Spider-Man reboots. Time traveler stumples out of an ally. "Hey who is spider man? Hey you who is playing spider man in the movies?" "Toby Maguire" "I've gone to far. I've gone to far!!!"
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HD DAD posted:Joke’s on you, the universe dies with me. There's a major human faction in one of Stephen Baxter's Xeelee Sequence series that actually believes this (the universe exists specifically because we are here to observe it into existence). They extrapolate that to some real weird places! His stuff also tangentially deals with the whole "we have anti-aging" technology but mostly it's discussed in the context of what happens to human society when that tech is suddenly taken away from us
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Watched a few Love Death Robots yesterday, a couple of which touch upon immortality in a human future. One was a future where every one's immortal through use of a medical technology, as a consequence reproduction is prohibited, the drug is paired with sterilization and people who go off of the drug are hunted down, imprisoned, and their illegal children murdered by cops. The other one was just some dude randomly born with immortality and regen-xmen powers and he's lonely about it, plus people want to chop off his balls. OK but Trek skips the human elements of technology and replaces it with some sweet ideals version and all the evil bad stuff is actually only good stuff and only good, nice, people will use the technology in good, positive, ways. Well then we can look at The Good Place Season at the problem with immortality + utopia + unlimited resources, although in Trek there's much more room for things to go wrong and evil or hurtful.
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No Luck Needed posted:Time traveler stumples out of an ally. "Hey who is spider man? Hey you who is playing spider man in the movies?" 
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Snow Cone Capone posted:His stuff also tangentially deals with the whole "we have anti-aging" technology but mostly it's discussed in the context of what happens to human society when that tech is suddenly taken away from us Isn't some of it, "We have anti-aging technology, because the aliens that took earth over gave it to their collaborators, and now that earth is free, if you're suspiciously young, it probably won't go well for you"?
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May 31, 2021 03:48
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Khanstant posted:
How did the Good Place handle it having never seen the show?
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Most (but not all) people eventually choose to die permanently after achieving fulfillment after several hundreds of thousands or millions of years of paradise.
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Epicurius posted:Isn't some of it, "We have anti-aging technology, because the aliens that took earth over gave it to their collaborators, and now that earth is free, if you're suspiciously young, it probably won't go well for you"? IIRC humans developed the technology, and when they were occupied the 2nd time, it was taken away and only given to a select few, but I think those select few were already known to be collaborators anyway. e: to me one of the cooler points was that it was explicitly technology, and therefore like any other technology prone to failing or being rejected,
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MikeJF posted:Most (but not all) people eventually choose to die permanently after achieving fulfillment after several hundreds of thousands or millions of years of paradise. I loved the little reminders now and then that probably a few millennia had passed since the events of the previous episode. Or a couple Jeremy Bearimys.
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No Luck Needed posted:Time traveler stumples out of an ally. "Hey who is spider man? Hey you who is playing spider man in the movies?" Twist reveal from Planet of the Apes but instead of the statue it's a movie poster of the Young Sheldon kid in Spider-Man 17.
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Brawnfire posted:Also I found concept art for the next trek What would the procedure be if humans get to the point of colonizing other worlds with bringing along animals. Seems like on our planet it's always been pretty devastating whenever someone brings a plant or animal across the world to a new place and invasive species quickly outcompete and radically later the ecological balance. Was Noah's Ark a good idea, or did he simply introduce a world's worth of invasive species to a new post-flood environment? Is it less of a big deal on planets that have no life, even if they have the potential for life and that's why you're importing beasties? Do they do extensive surveys and if they find so much as a floating protein in the ocean soup, they back off forever? edit: I know Data had a cat and presumably others did as well -- did they ever show a cool Trek-litter bin? Does a computer just recycle any cat piss and poo poo in a room so the cats can just piss n poo poo anywhere? Were there dogs aboard spaceships, did they ever breed them to all be good boys?
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Oh, is that what's happening? I thought they were removing the Borg augmentations after that colony Nova Cetacea that got assimilated was liberated by the Federation fleet
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Why would a whale just want to stay immobilized in a tank the whole time. Very cruel of that ship
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The tank hotboxes the whale with sea weed
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May 31, 2021 18:38
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The Physical Impossibility of Being Immobilized in the Tank of Starship
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All planets are inhabited by identical animals and plants, except that they have planet unique foreheads.
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I want to see a Bolian whale Entire oceanic ecosystems evolved simply to process their copious ill-colored shits
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Khanstant posted:What would the procedure be if humans get to the point of colonizing other worlds with bringing along animals. Seems like on our planet it's always been pretty devastating whenever someone brings a plant or animal across the world to a new place and invasive species quickly outcompete and radically later the ecological balance. According to the show terraforming only ever happens on planets that have no life and will never be able to develop life without outside interference.
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Pounded in the Butt byKhanstant posted:The Physical Impossibility of Being Immobilized in the Tank of Starship
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Brawnfire posted:I loved the little reminders now and then that probably a few millennia had passed since the events of the previous episode. Or a couple Jeremy Bearimys. They changed all the time references to Bearimies in the final episode to keep it vague and never really clarified how long a subjective Bearimy is, if it even is subjectively consistent, but in the table read Elanor says she knew Tahani for about 70 million years. Maybe exaggeration, maybe not. The rest of the episode implies it was probably at least over a hundred thousand years or so, I think. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 19:41 on May 31, 2021 |
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Was it really that unique? Their solution just felt like reincarnation until they become good and reach heaven to then when they tire of that they leave the cycle. It's Buddhism with a little bit of heaven thrown in
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Terror Sweat posted:Was it really that unique? Their solution just felt like reincarnation until they become good and reach heaven to then when they tire of that they leave the cycle. It's Buddhism with a little bit of heaven thrown in 
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Snow Cone Capone posted:e: to me one of the cooler points was that it was explicitly technology, and therefore like any other technology prone to failing or being rejected, I liked this in the Red Mars trilogy as well. Some people developed resistance to the treatment and died anyway, there was still problems with age-related diseases and new conditions developing as people aged out beyond the natural human lifespan. And it was a treatment you had to keep taking about every ten years so you could opt out without explicitly committing suicide, though after it had become the social standard that's how a lot of people saw it. And of course there's still other diseases and conditions, accidents, crimes of passion, risktakers and the foolhardy, all the usual stuff that can punch your ticket.
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Khanstant posted:Were there dogs aboard spaceships, did they ever breed them to all be good boys? The Ultimate Evolution of Canine Arts. 
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Brawnfire posted:Also I found concept art for the next trek McSpanky posted:I liked this in the Red Mars trilogy as well. Some people developed resistance to the treatment and died anyway, there was still problems with age-related diseases and new conditions developing as people aged out beyond the natural human lifespan. And it was a treatment you had to keep taking about every ten years so you could opt out without explicitly committing suicide, though after it had become the social standard that's how a lot of people saw it. And of course there's still other diseases and conditions, accidents, crimes of passion, risktakers and the foolhardy, all the usual stuff that can punch your ticket. Nessus fucked around with this message at 03:11 on Jun 1, 2021 |
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Nessus posted:I need to know the whale's class identity, specifically in 19th-through-21st-century terms, before I can comment on it oh you say that about everything
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Brawnfire posted:Also I found concept art for the next trek So they're rehashing Voyage Home?
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