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Do you prefer the extended summer thread format?
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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Presumably not as difficult as going the other way because you don't need a flue which have all sorts of annoying rules about them now if the boiler isn't venting straight through the wall. Apparently people are "dying" of "carbon monoxide" because "large exhaust runs not accessible for inspection are unsafe" or whatever elf and safety gone mad it is.

E: IMPORTANT EVE FARTLOW UPDATE

https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/1399877504396054530

OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 03:59 on Jun 2, 2021

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Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

Now that they don't have the right to stay here they'll be much less likely to cause a fuss about "workers rights" and what have you.

knox_harrington
Feb 18, 2011

Running no point.

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Assuming this isn't a reaction to my porn-free-porn post, Screwfix have got that portable air conditioner I've been telling you all about back in stock: https://www.screwfix.com/p/goodhome-takoma-mobile-air-conditioner/551hv#_=p although the price has gone up since last year.

I remember thinking the other day that you are the only person in the UK who has A/C in your home but I see you're now trying to spread this nefarious idea via UKMT of all places

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004



Ha ha, amazing.

Her name is Eve Farlow.

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
Are you really a journalist if most of your career is at the NME during its absolute lowest period?

Goldskull
Feb 20, 2011

keep punching joe posted:

Are you really a journalist if most of your career is at the NME during its absolute lowest period?

Is that where she was a journalist? I assumed she was some Shapiro/vaguely right wing website lackey.

Niric
Jul 23, 2008

Viz presents, Goddamned Twisto: pornographer's assistant

INT. Editor's office
The EDITOR is seated behind a large desk, smoking. Magazine pages are splayed across it. Various pornographic images adorn the walls, 70s hair abounds.

ENTER Twisto

EDITOR (furious)
We've got a problem Twisto, I'm seeing too many pricks in here!

TWISTO
That's not fair Chief, Nigel from accounts is more of an arsehole than a prick.

EDITOR (apoplectic)
God drat Twisto! I mean in here!
(taps the magazine pages theatrically)

TWISTO
Is that a problem Chief? I mean it is Romford Grannies' Gangbang Romps

EDITOR (burning with scarlet fury)
They're going to call it obscene!

TWISTO (winks at audience)
Is that a problem Chief? I mean it is Romford Grannies' Gangbang Romps

EDITOR (shaking harder than a petrol engine dildo)
GOD drat TWISTO! The government's going to shut us down!

TWISTO (snapping fingers)
I know Chief, fruit and veg!

EDITOR (literally exploding)
We sell grossery Twisto, not groceries!

TWISTO
No chief, I mean replace all the pricks with fruit and veg. That way we're just following government advice: every granny needs her 5 a day!

EDITOR (recombining like the T-1000)
God drat Twisto, that's brilliant!
(yelling out the office)
Kev! Replace all the pricks with fruit and veg pronto!
(to Twisto)
You've saved us! You deserve an erection!

TWISTO (waggling eyebrows at audience)
I hope he means a raise readers!

VOICE (out of frame)
Oi, why's there a kumquat in Nigel's seat?

Apologies to Viz magqzine, Twisto and literally everyone ever

Niric fucked around with this message at 09:37 on Jun 2, 2021

ChairmanGoesWoof
Jul 12, 2016

Goldskull posted:

Is that where she was a journalist? I assumed she was some Shapiro/vaguely right wing website lackey.

Hi, I'm Eve Fartlow. You may remember me from hard hitting journalisms such as:

Selfie sticks banned at US festivals

and

Beastie Boy Ad-Rock avoids touching ‘monster’ fish on Jimmy Fallon show

(presumably because his quotum for slimy, off-putting things was fully used up by being present in the same room as Jimmy Fallon)

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Comrade Fakename posted:

My boiler’s on its last legs and really needs to be replaced. Because of you know, the whole thing, I was thinking of changing to an electric boiler from a gas one. Anyone know the logistics of that, or if it’s a terrible idea or anything?
Electric boilers cost 4x more to run than even an old 70% efficient gas boiler, and are usually slower to heat water for peak use. Even a small compact gas boiler will think nothing of putting out 24kW, which would be enough to blow the main house fuse in a simple electric boiler.

I'm really hoping that because

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Gas boilers are going to be banned - in new builds from 2025 and I seem to remember it's 2035 for all gas boilers? (I might be wrong about that though!)
they'll start doing some grants for heatpumps or something, that's the only way to go electric.

Gonzo McFee posted:

Now that they don't have the right to stay here they'll be much less likely to cause a fuss about "workers rights" and what have you.
It's pretty much made blatant by him specifying EU workers. You can hire someone from the Commonwealth who already speaks English and cares about the cricket as easily as you can hire someone from Italy.

Niric posted:

Viz presents, Goddamned Twisto: pornographer's assistant
:golfclap:

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

wiggly eyes!



Niric posted:

Viz presents, Goddamned Twisto: pornographer's assistant


This was a pleasure to wake up to. :golfclap:

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Niric posted:

Viz presents, Goddamned Twisto: pornographer's assistant

Is there a word - perhaps German - for the combination of flattery and extreme concern I'm currently feeling?

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


Guavanaut posted:

Electric boilers cost 4x more to run than even an old 70% efficient gas boiler, and are usually slower to heat water for peak use. Even a small compact gas boiler will think nothing of putting out 24kW, which would be enough to blow the main house fuse in a simple electric boiler.

I'm really hoping that because
they'll start doing some grants for heatpumps or something, that's the only way to go electric.

Yeah, this was my concern. My initial research always came up with it being all upsides, but also you’ve got electric radiators or heat pumps or whatever. Suffice to say, I don’t want to rip out my entire central heating system.

ChairmanGoesWoof
Jul 12, 2016

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Is there a word - perhaps German - for the combination of flattery and extreme concern I'm currently feeling?

That'd be schmeicheleibesorgnis.

Sloth Life
Nov 15, 2014

Built for comfort and speed!
Fallen Rib
Also, flats (incl mine) will be hosed - the whole communal heating thing is well out of vogue & no garden for a heat pump. I already had to fork out 3k for a combi because the old floor mounted boilers are no longer accepted

Tsietisin
Jul 2, 2004

Time passes quickly on the weekend.

Guavanaut posted:

they'll start doing some grants for heatpumps or something, that's the only way to go electric.

I think I heard somewhere that they are bringing in grants for heat pumps next year around March time. I may need to look into this further.

domhal
Dec 30, 2008


0.000% of Communism has been built. Evil child-murdering billionaires still rule the world with a shit-eating grin. All he has managed to do is make himself *sad*. It has, however, made him into a very, very smart boy with something like a university degree in Truth. Instead of building Communism, he now builds a precise model of this grotesque, duplicitous world.

Guavanaut posted:

I'm really hoping that they'll start doing some grants for heatpumps or something, that's the only way to go electric.

Grants capped at 4000 for air source heat pumps - the Clean Heat Grant - start in March 2022. They replace the broader and far more lucrative Renewable Heat Incentive, which ends March 2022. It was originally to end in March this year but they've extended it another year.

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

Marmaduke! posted:

My first day in NI a few years back, I met my sister at a pub quite early in the day and one of the old fellas definitely muttered oval office at me when I ordered a diet coke at the bar.

Be glad you didn't go to bittles, they probably would have kicked you out

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Wasn't there a thing a while ago where they wanted heat pumps controlled by a municipal authority? So now your home can be just like every school and workplace, i.e. freezing cold or overheating because it's all controlled from a cupboard in cramlington.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!

Tsietisin posted:

I think I heard somewhere that they are bringing in grants for heat pumps next year around March time. I may need to look into this further.

If it's like the previous green grant it will be botched so badly every installer will back out as they just end up losing money.
I tried looking into it for loft insulation, the closest installer who accepted the grant was almost an hour away and wanted to charge me more because I wasn't technically in his area.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe
Here's a bit of British military history I feel like this thread should be able to be proud of:

https://twitter.com/TheDreadShips/status/1400042355860852741

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Here's a bit of British military history I feel like this thread should be able to be proud of:

https://twitter.com/TheDreadShips/status/1400042355860852741

Wait until the Yanks find out about the sodomy.

ANYTHING YOU SOW
Nov 7, 2009
https://twitter.com/HugoGye/status/1400079678635876352?s=19

Pretty surprising how high it is in the older age groups, considering how big the MMR scare was.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)
Mercifully the one hysteria this country doesn't seem to be prone to is antivax hysteria

so far

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



ANYTHING YOU SOW posted:

https://twitter.com/HugoGye/status/1400079678635876352?s=19

Pretty surprising how high it is in the older age groups, considering how big the MMR scare was.

This time around refusing the jab puts themselves at risk, rather than their children.

e: Why is 16-29 one giant bracket when the rest are in four year intervals?

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021

Barry Foster posted:

Mercifully the one hysteria this country doesn't seem to be prone to is antivax hysteria

so far

This country invented antivax, just not for this virus.

But you know what Andrew Wakefield did after losing his licence to practice in the UK?

He went to America, and started doing talks, during the Trump years. He's not solely responsible for their movement, but they certainly caught our disease.

Azza Bamboo fucked around with this message at 14:53 on Jun 2, 2021

NoneMoreNegative
Jul 20, 2000
GOTH FASCISTIC
PAIN
MASTER




shit wizard dad

Azza Bamboo posted:

This country invented antivax, just not for this virus.

But you know what Andrew Wakefield did after losing his licence to practice in the UK?

He went to America, and started doing talks, during the Trump years. He's not solely responsible for their movement, but they certainly caught our disease.

The new HBomberguy video was an eyeopener, I knew Wakefield was up to some bullshit but the full facts were even worse than I'd previously been aware.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

stev posted:

This time around refusing the jab puts themselves at risk, rather than their children.

e: Why is 16-29 one giant bracket when the rest are in four year intervals?

Because they started at the top and worked their way down. They've only just reached offering the vaccine to under-30s, so that group is taken as one.

nurmie
Dec 8, 2019

Gruffalo Soldier posted:

I've been faffing about with some javascript graph libraries and I built this quick and dirty breakdown of vote share in UK elections 1918-2019 as a test.

I thought this place might find it interesting. I remember somebody here mentioning that they'd like to see the numbers if 'non-voter' was included in the numbers so I added that.

Data is from here: https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-8647/. If anyone has any requests of how to break it down further let me know and if I have time I'll try to update it.

https://ollyollyollyltd.github.io/electiongraphs/



i'm a bit late, but this is great! thank you for making this :)

i wonder what was it that collapsed the voting population so bad between 1992 and 2001. i mean i know it's tony blair, but what exactly did he do to accomplish this. it's kind of astonishing just how badly it had plummeted in 2001

blunt
Jul 7, 2005

Hancock's been giving a victory lap speech for the last 20mins in Oxford. Can't tell if it's the start of his fight back against Cummings or his last speech before resignation.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

nurmie posted:

i'm a bit late, but this is great! thank you for making this :)

i wonder what was it that collapsed the voting population so bad between 1992 and 2001. i mean i know it's tony blair, but what exactly did he do to accomplish this. it's kind of astonishing just how badly it had plummeted in 2001

It collapsed in 1997 because the Tory voters knew they'd already scraped the bottom of the barrel in 1992 and there was no way they would win again, but the numbers were shored up by increased Labour enthusiasm because they knew the same thing. By 2001 hard left Labour voters had already realised that Blair was just another Tory and the only choice we had was the colour of the rosettes, so they began to stay home.

Noxville
Dec 7, 2003

nurmie posted:

i'm a bit late, but this is great! thank you for making this :)

i wonder what was it that collapsed the voting population so bad between 1992 and 2001. i mean i know it's tony blair, but what exactly did he do to accomplish this. it's kind of astonishing just how badly it had plummeted in 2001

“They’re all the same” syndrome, caused by New Labour

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

ANYTHING YOU SOW posted:

https://twitter.com/HugoGye/status/1400079678635876352?s=19

Pretty surprising how high it is in the older age groups, considering how big the MMR scare was.

Lmao those 80+ year olds are getting their rear end kicked by the 75-79 year olds. Come on octos, you're supposed to be the generation wot won the war and you can't even finish jabbing yourselves? loving weak

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Day three of the vaccine and I'm still tired and need to drink more water but otherwise no side effects so just enough side-effects to know I didn't just get saline solution without kicking my arse.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

nurmie posted:

i'm a bit late, but this is great! thank you for making this :)

i wonder what was it that collapsed the voting population so bad between 1992 and 2001. i mean i know it's tony blair, but what exactly did he do to accomplish this. it's kind of astonishing just how badly it had plummeted in 2001

Basically completely gave up on even *pretending* to appeal to/represent people outside of large cities, something that I should be allowed to tattoo on the face of every single person who tries telling me Blair et. al. have some special prole-whispering wisdom.

New Labour strategy was pretty clear - rebuild their voter base by appealing to the aspirational working and lower-middle class in London, rely on the non-London working class and ethnic minorities (primarily concentrated in the cities of course) having nowhere else to go. Brexit only accelerated the attrition of those traditional heartlands - had nothing been changed they'd have gone blue just through sheer apathy within a decade or so anyway.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Basically completely gave up on even *pretending* to appeal to/represent people outside of large cities, something that I should be allowed to tattoo on the face of every single person who tries telling me Blair et. al. have some special prole-whispering wisdom.

New Labour strategy was pretty clear - rebuild their voter base by appealing to the aspirational working and lower-middle class in London, rely on the non-London working class and ethnic minorities (primarily concentrated in the cities of course) having nowhere else to go. Brexit only accelerated the attrition of those traditional heartlands - had nothing been changed they'd have gone blue just through sheer apathy within a decade or so anyway.

Liberal centrism always boils down to wanting to win through the absolute minimum effort, and creating excuses to that effect.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


lol Lib Dems:

https://twitter.com/LeftieStats/status/1400069917467160578

UnquietDream
Jul 20, 2008

How strange that nobody sees the wonder in one another

ANYTHING YOU SOW posted:

https://twitter.com/HugoGye/status/1400079678635876352?s=19

Pretty surprising how high it is in the older age groups, considering how big the MMR scare was.

I'm slightly sceptical of the 100% for 75-79 and I've gone looking (quickly) at the Public Health England website which is crap compared to the Wales one and it doesn't break it down into percentages just raw figures giving it as 2,000,706 for that age range and first jabs compared to the 75-79 estimated population (in 2019) of 1,940,686. So yeah I'm a little eh on whether I trust that they've actually managed to track down and get every single 75-79 year old or whether somebodies mucked up a reporting figure somewhere.

For comparison, let's look at the (much better overall) Wales figures:

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



I feel like there has to be a huge number of over 70s who just have no contact with anyone and no way of getting to a vaccination centre even if they wanted to.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

stev posted:

I feel like there has to be a huge number of over 70s who just have no contact with anyone and no way of getting to a vaccination centre even if they wanted to.

Iirc very elderly people were getting them done at their gp surgery

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Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

stev posted:

I feel like there has to be a huge number of over 70s who just have no contact with anyone and no way of getting to a vaccination centre even if they wanted to.

Not just over 70s! If you don't have family or friends close by, live in the styx, don't drive, and the centres or even GP surgeries are not within reasonable walking distance, and public transport doesn't go near (and eg round here, public transport which was crappy anyway has been slashed to pieces even more), then it could be difficult.

Fortunately, my sister is driving me tomorrow for my 2nd jab else I would have to fork out £25 for a taxi* which is a special deal (and in fact may not still be on offer!) - normally it would be almost £100 return by taxi and impossible to get there and back in a day. Not only that, but the only GP surgery doing it locally is ALSO 10 miles away and going by bus makes it literally a whole day out because the bus only goes every 2 or 4 hours depending if it is a school day and the last bus back is about 5pm. If you're lucky. Some last buses are around 330pm.

*I could pay that if I had to, but there are a lot of people that would find that very difficult.


Ed: and also, there aren't that many taxis and you can wait 3 hours or more to be able to get one.

Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 16:19 on Jun 2, 2021

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