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folytopo
Nov 5, 2013

Alctel posted:

Yeah you are right, my friends spend their time making racist comments on online newspaper articles, ya got me.

I said multiple times Canada is a pretty racist country - I'm saying that thinking that comment sections of newspaper articles and reddit is a decent representative sample of the population is incorrect. 'Never read the comments' has been an internet rule for like 25 years

The people who make the comments are much more likely to be socially isolated and angry. They will have less interpersonal connections in a community. https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/9/11/e030355 Loneliness can create loneliness loops where anti social behavior multiplies https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3874845/.

I think the thing is that online spaces, without much moderation can be dominated by otherwise socially isolated angry people. Another part of polarization of society is people self selecting away from people with opposite political opinions. It is pretty easy to not be friends with many racist people but you have like 20 friends and live in a city of thousands to millions. Not to say that people can be nice in public and racist online, but people are not dealing with representative samples of the population.

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Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice

MA-Horus posted:

At a time when parks are being used more than ever before, I bring you the National Post!

https://twitter.com/accessd/status/1400155095808065542?s=19

Counter proposal: How about we bulldoze a bunch of houses and put up some apartment buildings to house more people on less land. And then make more public parks?

Willatron
Sep 22, 2009

Alctel posted:

Ok I give up. Everyone I know is actually secretly intensely racist and online comments are an excellent way to get a representation of how everyone actually thinks

Unless the place you live in is made up only of yourself and your own intimate contacts, then a non-insignificant portion of the people who live there statistically hold racist or otherwise regressive views. That's why the comments section in your local news outlets looks like it does, and pretending it's just backwards boomers is denial to the reality that there's a lot of Gen Xers, Millennials and Zoomers who have lovely views in every community of any decent size and demographic diversity.

I very much doubt "Everyone you know is secretly intensely racist" and nobody said that, just that putting your head in the sand to certain realities is naïve.

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

MA-Horus posted:

At a time when parks are being used more than ever before, I bring you the National Post!

https://twitter.com/accessd/status/1400155095808065542?s=19

Clown-rear end motherfucker.

I know it's NatPo and not knowing things is how you get an editorial spot in the first place, but he could at least pretend to have some concept of urban issues before slaming his face into the keyboard for another column. Bonus points for using an image showing a park being used by dozens of people in the article where he says parks aren't used except by people walking their dogs.

The column is actually much worse than the blurb suggests. Mostly his problem is that there are now encampments in the parks (you know, because the shelter system which was already woefully underfunded essentially collapsed during COVID), and he thinks that if we privatized them that wouldn't happen anymore. He also thinks he can just pay for park amenities directly, because somehow the city doing that with tax revenue is bad, because of an anecdote about people who don't have jobs at McDonalds.

I wish I were making this up.

infernal machines fucked around with this message at 20:02 on Jun 2, 2021

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club



Anyone who wishes for privatization deserves a "GoT red wedding".

apatheticman
May 13, 2003

Wedge Regret
https://twitter.com/greywan/status/1400163171764158467?s=20

Yup...

Also, Kenney couldnt stop scoring own goals yesterday

https://twitter.com/TheBreakdownAB/status/1400153172417474562?s=20

apatheticman fucked around with this message at 20:11 on Jun 2, 2021

Mad Hamish
Jun 15, 2008

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.



Drunk Canuck posted:

https://twitter.com/GraphicMatt/status/1400154265960599553?s=19
I'm glad it's transcribed to show how loving nuts his anecdote is

He's just so loving bad at pretending to care about people

This makes even less sense when you can actually read it. It's like a transcript of one of Trump's speeches. "This beautiful little boy, so handsome, right out of central casting, he comes up to me with tears in his eyes and says 'Mister Ford, I want to go to camp,' and we made it happen for him, didn't we, folks? We opened the camps, we opened them even though TRUDEAU closed them down, closed them down but he left the borders open, didn't he? He left the borders wide open, for all those diseased immigrants, I gotta tell you, I love the immigrants, they do great things, but we've got to stop them from coming in, no other points of access to this country aside from Pearson International but he just refuses to shut it down, to shut it all down."

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Also just the creep factor of Doug following a small child into his house unannounced instead of asking the kid to get his parents to come to the door. Also wouldn't Doug making a house call be considered non essential and therefore illegal under his own rules?

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
Lmao, congrats Manitoba, we can't go for a walk outside with our friends but we were able to create a specific exemption for hockey games

https://twitter.com/stevelambertwpg/status/1400156670370713612?s=20

Willatron
Sep 22, 2009

DariusLikewise posted:

Lmao, congrats Manitoba, we can't go for a walk outside with our friends but we were able to create a specific exemption for hockey games

https://twitter.com/stevelambertwpg/status/1400156670370713612?s=20

Our Province is so deep in the pocket of True North that this isn't even surprising.

Another Bill
Sep 27, 2018

Born on the bayou
died in a cave
bbq and posting
is all I crave

Drunk Canuck posted:

https://twitter.com/GraphicMatt/status/1400154265960599553?s=19
I'm glad it's transcribed to show how loving nuts his anecdote is

He's just so loving bad at pretending to care about people

https://twitter.com/bruce_arthur/status/1400150930088202240

:hmmyes:

Bleck
Jan 7, 2014

No matter how one loves, there are always different aims. Love can take a great many forms, whatever the era.

MA-Horus posted:

At a time when parks are being used more than ever before, I bring you the National Post!

https://twitter.com/accessd/status/1400155095808065542?s=19

"the solution to homelessness is definitely more privately-owned housing"

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?

Willatron posted:

Our Province is so deep in the pocket of True North that this isn't even surprising.

Every day this province becomes more and more depressing

https://twitter.com/bkives/status/1400169820251987968?s=20

Coxswain Balls
Jun 4, 2001

Jesus Christ.

HappyHippo
Nov 19, 2003
Do you have an Air Miles Card?

MA-Horus posted:

At a time when parks are being used more than ever before, I bring you the National Post!

https://twitter.com/accessd/status/1400155095808065542?s=19

Quite the ratio there

Articles like this are what I've started calling hate-bait: they're made to be shared by/get clicks from people outraged by the content. Which is not to say this moron doesn't believe what he writes.

Also: Love the editor that ran a picture of a packed park with this

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

DariusLikewise posted:

Every day this province becomes more and more depressing

https://twitter.com/bkives/status/1400169820251987968?s=20

don't worry, manitoba is perfectly fine and we don't need to change our public health approach at all

RBC
Nov 23, 2007

IM STILL SPENDING MONEY FROM 1888

Bleck posted:

"the solution to homelessness is definitely more privately-owned housing"

stopped reading at "But when I see an urban park, I can’t help thinking it’s a waste of prime real estate."

prom candy
Dec 16, 2005

Only I may dance
https://twitter.com/matttomic/status/1400171223582134280

Femtosecond
Aug 2, 2003

MA-Horus posted:

At a time when parks are being used more than ever before, I bring you the National Post!

https://twitter.com/accessd/status/1400155095808065542?s=19

Goddamn now that's some nuclear grade bad opinion clickbait.

Here's a recent tweet thread bout the actual problem with our parks, which is that they're surrounded by increasingly ultra expensive low density housing, and these public amenities are now woefully underutilized spaces reserved for super wealthy neighbours. The thread takes us on a little tour of a bunch of very nice west side parks, ringed by multi million dollar homes and inaccessible to renters.

https://twitter.com/DannyOleksiuk/status/1397238054453137408?s=20

If we have a land utilization problem, it's not that open gardened park spaces exist, it's that these spaces are surrounded by low density estates for the rich. Every one of these west side Vancouver parks should be ringed with small apartment buildings and townhouses at a minimum.

Beelzebufo
Mar 5, 2015

Frog puns are toadally awesome


There are times, like this one, where I'm 100% sure Postmedia's editiorial strategy is literally just owning the libs. I find it hard to believe that was published in good faith, and not as an ideological strawman to rile people up and drive clicks.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/concerns-raised-after-photos-of-alta-premier-ministers-dining-on-sky-palace-rooftop-emerge-1.5453488

Kenney and cronies photographed by a concerned Albertan dining outdoors together and flouting gathering rules by moving between indoors and outdoors for dining.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Arcsquad12 posted:

https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/concerns-raised-after-photos-of-alta-premier-ministers-dining-on-sky-palace-rooftop-emerge-1.5453488

Kenney and cronies photographed by a concerned Albertan dining outdoors together and flouting gathering rules by moving between indoors and outdoors for dining.

And honestly, if they were wearing masks while inside and actually distanced, I wouldn’t care. That should be allowed. But they are blatantly breaking their own rules, and specifically one of the rules which I find the most stupid and frustrating.

ColdBlooded
Jul 15, 2001

Ask me how to run a good team into the ground.

DariusLikewise posted:

Every day this province becomes more and more depressing

https://twitter.com/bkives/status/1400169820251987968?s=20

I'm really curious to see what the current polling looks like right now. The NDP were up 6 points in March, pre 3rd wave - with how much Pallister and company have mismanaged poo poo, I'd have to imagine the NDP would be up double digits by now.

Though it's not like it matters since the Cons will just speed run all their bullshit through to make Manitoba a barren wasteland by 2023.

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

ColdBlooded posted:

I'm really curious to see what the current polling looks like right now. The NDP were up 6 points in March, pre 3rd wave - with how much Pallister and company have mismanaged poo poo, I'd have to imagine the NDP would be up double digits by now.

Though it's not like it matters since the Cons will just speed run all their bullshit through to make Manitoba a barren wasteland by 2023.

the bottom was done march to april by janet brown for cbc. the one on top was about two weeks ago by mainstreet for the western standard:



and yeah lot of time to change between now and ‘23.

Crow Buddy
Oct 30, 2019

Guillotines?!? We don't need no stinking guillotines!

What caused the independence support collapse?

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

Crow Buddy posted:

What caused the independence support collapse?

you have it backwards; it's exploded

apatheticman
May 13, 2003

Wedge Regret
https://twitter.com/MBellefontaine/status/1400201180517707776?s=20

Crow Buddy
Oct 30, 2019

Guillotines?!? We don't need no stinking guillotines!

mediaphage posted:

you have it backwards; it's exploded

Ironically this now makes perfect sense. :laffo:

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
100% Pallister demanded they put people in the stands at the Jets game because national and international media is slamming his handling of the pandemic and an empty arena on TV is embarrassing.

Fried Watermelon
Dec 29, 2008


I gave you nurses FREE jets tickets now pay back that $20,000 you owe me

Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks

MA-Horus posted:

At a time when parks are being used more than ever before, I bring you the National Post!

https://twitter.com/accessd/status/1400155095808065542?s=19


This is a genuinely impressive ratio

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Entropic posted:

This is a genuinely impressive ratio



Presumably that's what he was going for.

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club



infernal machines posted:

Presumably that's what he was going for.

Jam Band Death Cult
Feb 29, 2008

I'm Very Glad I'm Going To Be An Earl
Denis Coderre has always been a gigantic piece of poo poo, and I was worried his carefully calculated comeback for the fall municipal election would put Valérie Plante in danger. He has put on a big show of losing a hundred or so pounds and going on a personal journey of reflection since his loss of the mayoralty in the last elections -
which was largely attributed to his arrogant personality. His redemption narrative (buttressed by the release of a ghostwritten memoir) is such greasy, transparently crafted PR, but it seems like after the past year of isolation people around here will settle for any sort of return to the past that makes their most aggrieved, reactionary feelings resonate - here against Plante and her bike lanes, I guess. Let it be known that I don't particularly love Valérie Plante, whose shortcomings are substantial : there are some serious governance issues as her party has always been a top-down technocrat affair, and her continuing support of police budget increases is sociopathic. But Coderre is a loving nightmare and much scarier. And the amount of misogyny brought to bear on Plante by the media is honestly unreal. My fear is that this misogyny will set the stage for a return to the old days of topsy-turvy ratfuckery - one need only look up Gérald Tremblay or Michael Applebaum to see what I mean.

I won't be satisfied by a mere re-election of Plante/loss of Coderre, but for the last while all I've been able to imagine are catastrophic Coderre-win scenarios.

And then Coderre got photographed while texting at the wheel over the weekend, then became weirdly defensive, which a wide swath of journalists rightly recognized as classic 2015 garbage behaviour on his part. And I'm increasingly feeling pleased because I can see these types of errors in his judgement multiplying. Patrick Lagacé notably detailed this long relationship with untruthfulness in La Presse the other day, but today news of this really strange, petty and flashy heel turn dropped:

quote:

Coderre, who now lives on de la Commune St. in Old Montreal, said the violence that broke out in the Old Port Saturday night convinced him alcohol should not be allowed in parks at night.


https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/no-booze-in-parks-after-8-p-m-if-coderre-is-elected

Jam Band Death Cult fucked around with this message at 03:35 on Jun 3, 2021

Chillyrabbit
Oct 24, 2012

The only sword wielding rabbit on the internet



Ultra Carp
More information on the Portapique massacre. Sourced from Franks Magazine a tabloid/news magazine from Nova Scotia so I'm not quite sure I would place it well vetted since these are supposed 911 audio tapes secretly copied and provided to Frank Magazine.

It has the raw audio and a written transcript, of 3 different 911 calls. The TL;DR is that these 911 callers reported that it was their neighbour Gabe dressed up as police with a police car shooting them. So more fuel to the fire of RCMP incompetence showing that the initial 911 calls told the Police who was shooting, what he was dressed as, and that he was driving a police car.

Information that was not released to the public as supposedly they only got the info from GW's girlfriend in the morning and the police uniform and car info wasn't reported to them, when these 911 calls show it literally was reported to them that night.

Still I would approach this with a critical eye as Franks magazine is tabloid-lite from my understanding.

Fidelitious
Apr 17, 2018

MY BIRTH CRY WILL BE THE SOUND OF EVERY WALLET ON THIS PLANET OPENING IN UNISON.

MA-Horus posted:

At a time when parks are being used more than ever before, I bring you the National Post!

https://twitter.com/accessd/status/1400155095808065542?s=19

This seems like a roundabout way of him saying that he wants paid access to parks so that he can enjoy them without the poors messing it up, and sort of trying to use some side nonsense about social housing as cover?

Also loving the extremely weird throwaway defence of John A. MacDonald's racism. Can't even manage to keep the mask on a little bit while ranting about parks.

Fidelitious fucked around with this message at 13:57 on Jun 3, 2021

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Fidelitious posted:

This seems like a roundabout way of him saying that he wants paid access to parks so that he can enjoy them without the poors messing it up, and sort of trying to use some side nonsense about social housing as cover?

It's that, but the cover gets dropped immediately. Also he doesn't like that the city hires students/teens to staff the amenities.

thunderspanks
Nov 5, 2003

crucify this


Chillyrabbit posted:

Still I would approach this with a critical eye as Franks magazine is tabloid-lite from my understanding.

Frank is as trash as trash gets, but as they say even a broken clock is right twice a day. This is a big deal and my local subreddit is going bananas. Now I realize that the demographics of a subreddit aren't representative of the province as a whole, but jesus christ ACAB.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
Pallister turns down 24k AZ vaccines because ??????

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bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008
THE HATE CRIME DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON
Kenney, Ford and Pallister have an inside bet going on who can be the worse premier and not get ousted by caucus

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