KungFu Grip posted:

if braun was making a bunch of loving money and his contract was well into 2023 and he got cut earlier i'm sure the dude is raking in a good amount on the 90 days no compete clause on the big rear end farm land he owns. Maybe he can get real knee surgery now or get in touch with Rey's guy for his knees.

Orange Carlisle posted:

WWE being sold before Vince dies is a very weird thing to think about

Lid posted:

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Gavok posted:

Replace his legs with tank treads.

Prokhor Zakharov posted:

Selling it might be Vince's last chance at being a for real big shot billionaire, opposed to the kinda-sorta-on-paper-figured-a-certain-way billionaire.

Kunabomber posted:

Just lol if it turns out Braun is still good to go after being checked over by real doctors not hired by WWE

Liquid Communism posted:

I would in no way be surprised if three months sitting out the no-compete to actually rehab entirely changes his prognosis.

coconono posted:

Dang

Astro7x posted:

He went 3 months where all he did was be in the Rumble as #30 for 7 1/2 minutes. So I doubt it...

Benne posted:

Braun always struck me as a guy who just got into WWE for the money and has no real passion for wrestling otherwise (the Ryback comparison is pretty apt). He'll likely go back to strongman competitions and maybe doing some Hollywood stunt work on the side. A guy with his look can get steady paychecks without bumping.

Luigi Thirty posted:

I’m sure he’ll land on his feet

Shayna Baszler posted:

hhh breastfeeding ricochet and aleister black

edit: i thought this was google, sorry

Benne posted:

Braun always struck me as a guy who just got into WWE for the money and has no real passion for wrestling otherwise (the Ryback comparison is pretty apt). He'll likely go back to strongman competitions and maybe doing some Hollywood stunt work on the side. A guy with his look can get steady paychecks without bumping.

BrigadierSensible posted:

Forgive me if this is a stupid question. But I know gently caress all about US Employment/Contract law.

So WWE Wrestlers are "Independent Contractors" right? But that still means they have contracts. And Contracts should be legally enforceable.

So let's say WWE signs a wrestler on a "You will work for us for the next X years, and make a minimum of $Y a year over the period of the contract." contract on a Monday. They then sack the wrestler on Tuesday.

Do they have to pay out the remainder of $Y to the wrestler? Would it come in a lump sum, or would they continue to get cheques for the remaining X years? Does the wrestler have any recourse to sue/claim for any moneys owed them over the previous part of the contract that they worked, but were not paid?

Zombie Lemur posted:

If he knees are as shot as people seem to think I can't imagine him going back to the strongman circuit.

Benne posted:

Perhaps, but if he's only thinking about money that might not even matter. Strongman has long been a niche within a niche, and a guy coming back as A Former WWE Superstar would surely draw eyes on any competition, which could convince people to add extra numbers on his check if they think it will sell tickets.

Nick Jr. Face posted:

Braun will walk the Appalachian Trail. You heard it here first.

Benne posted:

Perhaps, but if he's only thinking about money that might not even matter. Strongman has long been a niche within a niche, and a guy coming back as A Former WWE Superstar would surely draw eyes on any competition, which could convince people to add extra numbers on his check if they think it will sell tickets.

karmicknight posted:

Hell, he might not even have to do anything to collect a decent appearance fee as a special guest to draw people to a strongman competition.

karmicknight posted:

Hell, he might not even have to do anything to collect a decent appearance fee as a special guest to draw people to a strongman competition.

thefncrow posted:

The contracts just have clauses that obligate the employee and do not provide a path for them to end the deal but give the employer the ability to do so at will. This is not a WWE-unique situation, as most major American sports leagues do not have guaranteed contracts. If you see a headline that some player in the NFL signed a 5 year $72 million dollar contract, that doesn't actually mean that player is going to get $72 million over 5 years, what they're guaranteed to get is their year 1 salary, their signing bonus, and anything else they can specially negotiate a guarantee against (bonuses, various years of salary, conditional guarantees for things like injury where getting hurt in year 2 guarantees year 3 so they can't wash their hands and dump you onto the market coming back from serious injury). If after 3 years, the player feels they've got a raw deal, well, there's no route for just legally exit the contract (although there are pressure plays like holdouts), while if the team is sore about the deal after year 3, they can just cut the player and get off the hook for whatever they'd promised from the last 2 years. Sound familiar?

So, no, no payment of the remainder of the contract unless they were able to negotiate a fully guaranteed deal (and I'm going to suggest no one gets that). They can opt into an extra 3 months of their downside in exchange for the non-compete, specifically because most non-competes legally have to provide some benefit to the former employee in order to be legal. If they don't want to take the non-compete, anything they were contracted to get after the release just disappears.

irs.gov posted:

You are not an independent contractor if you perform services that can be controlled by an employer (what will be done and how it will be done). This applies even if you are given freedom of action. What matters is that the employer has the legal right to control the details of how the services are performed.

irs.gov posted:

Common Law Rules
Facts that provide evidence of the degree of control and independence fall into three categories:

Behavioral: Does the company control or have the right to control what the worker does and how the worker does his or her job?
Financial: Are the business aspects of the worker’s job controlled by the payer? (these include things like how worker is paid, whether expenses are reimbursed, who provides tools/supplies, etc.)
Type of Relationship: Are there written contracts or employee type benefits (i.e. pension plan, insurance, vacation pay, etc.)? Will the relationship continue and is the work performed a key aspect of the business?