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M_Gargantua posted:I don't know jack about the army The two different E-4s is a holdover from when the army had two separate career paths: NCO and specialists. The idea being is that there are always going to be people whose expertise and skills merit promotion and extra pay but their actual job doesn't require the authority of an NCO so for awhile there were specialist ranks from E-4 to E-6 (and, briefly, even up to E-9). They got rid of specialists above E-5 in 1985 and retained SPC as the default E-4 rank, corporal being a lateral promotion (without a pay increase) being made as-needed.
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And I hate them for it.
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McNally posted:The two different E-4s is a holdover from when the army had two separate career paths: NCO and specialists. The idea being is that there are always going to be people whose expertise and skills merit promotion and extra pay but their actual job doesn't require the authority of an NCO so for awhile there were specialist ranks from E-4 to E-6 (and, briefly, even up to E-9). It sounds so beautiful. The pay and training afforded to someone with 12 years of doing an job, without having to write an epr other than your own.
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My experience with corporals is having corporals in my companies when we ran out of E5 slots but still needed to have NCOs fill CQ shifts
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Jun 7, 2021 20:28
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I squeal-laugh-giggled at this one. https://twitter.com/GeoffRBennett/status/1401982282815115269 https://twitter.com/Bing_Chris/status/1401983950705266690 facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 20:36 on Jun 7, 2021 |
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UP THE BUM NO BABY posted:My experience with corporals is having corporals in my companies when we ran out of E5 slots but still needed to have NCOs fill CQ shifts This is the real reason Corporal still exists. Nobody respects a Corporal, they're just there to be abused. At least as a specialist nobody expects anything of you.
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One weird trick that capitalists hate https://twitter.com/taizou_hori/status/1401814103174287361?s=19
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Bell_ posted:I was Corporal for a year. What sets them apart from a Specialist is that they are considered a non-commissioned officer. Although they would be the same pay grade, they would be forbidden to fraternize with those which would otherwise be their peers. The Air Force got rid of this nonsense in the 80s, eliminating "sergeant" (aka buck sgt) as the NCO E-4, and just giving Senior Airmen the potential for additional responsibility.
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facialimpediment posted:I squeal-laugh-giggled at this one. So it turns out the hackers aren’t sophisticated actors but just some script kiddies who found a known exploit? Not that surprised
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Suicide Watch posted:So it turns out the hackers aren’t sophisticated actors but just some script kiddies who found a known exploit? Not that surprised You’re really burying the lede about cyber infrastructure here.
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Suicide Watch posted:So it turns out the hackers aren’t sophisticated actors but just some script kiddies who found a known exploit? Not that surprised Probably not even the level of script kiddies. Some of these operations will find the exploits and then, I guess the best phrase is 'license' them out to third parties to perform these kinds of attacks.
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I was in one company that actually made a point of promoting E4 team leaders to CPL. We had a guy who was a corporal for 2 years because SGM wouldn't let anyone go to the board without a 300 PT score. He went a mech unit and they made him a E6 pretty much as fast as regs allowed.
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Jun 7, 2021 22:02
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Suicide Watch posted:So it turns out the hackers aren’t sophisticated actors but just some script kiddies who found a known exploit? Not that surprised Not even an exploit: A legacy VPN with a password that was never change and no 2FA enabled. But to call them script kiddies is a vast understatement.
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My last first sergeant gave me a corporal rank to pin whenever I needed to move a vehicle solo, because apparently that makes you a better driver or gives you four eyes or something.
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facialimpediment posted:I squeal-laugh-giggled at this one. Lmao i love that the criminals didn't even make off with the the money to make it disappear - it was sufficient to leave it in a state of Bitcoin to halve what could be recouped.
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I feel like the only time I ever saw corporals in the wild (like 2006-2008) was when NG guys were sent as cadre for ROTC poo poo at Knox and Drum.
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Handsome Ralph posted:I feel like the only time I ever saw corporals in the wild (like 2006-2008) was when NG guys were sent as cadre for ROTC poo poo at Knox and Drum. The vaccination station I went to was run by specs. I asked one of them if was the e-4 mafia just running everything and she said there were 3 sgts sitting in an office drinking coffee so yes.
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not caring here posted:My last first sergeant gave me a corporal rank to pin whenever I needed to move a vehicle solo, because apparently that makes you a better driver or gives you four eyes or something. Probably so people wouldn't gently caress with you. Yes you get hosed with a lot by your own NCOs for being a CPL, but in my experience having the NCO stripes makes people way less likely come put their nose in your poo poo. NCOs from other units treat you with the bare minimum of courtesy that custom dictate NCOs be afforded. It isn't much, but it's usually enough to win the tiebreaker between a third party assuming you're a dumb joe loving everything up that needs intervention, and just shrugging and carrying on with whatever they're doing. edit: I was also a corporal for a weirdly long time because my hips were all hosed up and I could never get more than 80 on the situps and thus blocked from going to the board. Jarmak fucked around with this message at 23:07 on Jun 7, 2021 |
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1-502 pinned you corporal if you were an e4 who passed ranger school and then you could sleep in for the board because you were auto e-5 because of the tab. Saw that a few times. Not sure why they couldn’t just pin you 5 instead of making you a corporal for a few weeks. Other than that I saw just a few corporals. None of them wanted to be corporals.
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Jarmak posted:I was in one company that actually made a point of promoting E4 team leaders to CPL. The Marine Corps makes all our E-4s Corporals...Rah? Recruits come out of boot camp ready to lead. edit- If you asked yourself what E-2s and E-3s are leading? The answer is hazing in the barracks.
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That and rack ops
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Jarmak posted:Probably so people wouldn't gently caress with you. Yes you get hosed with a lot by your own NCOs for being a CPL, but in my experience having the NCO stripes makes people way less likely come put their nose in your poo poo. NCOs from other units treat you with the bare minimum of courtesy that custom dictate NCOs be afforded. It's this, especially if you're also wearing a deployment patch. For people outside your unit, you stop being a junior soldier they need to gently caress with, and just some dude doing a job. As long as you look vaguely competent, it's like you're suddenly invisible*. *Sergeants Major may still detect you
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boop the snoot posted:1-502 pinned you corporal if you were an e4 who passed ranger school and then you could sleep in for the board because you were auto e-5 because of the tab. Saw that a few times. Not sure why they couldn’t just pin you 5 instead of making you a corporal for a few weeks. IIRC the company CO has the authority to promote you CPL, but above that the orders need to come down from higher and it takes time.
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Carry a clipboard, poo poo, how hard is that? Is a clipboard not a magic spell to keep people from generally loving with you anymore?
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Loden Taylor posted:It's this, especially if you're also wearing a deployment patch. For people outside your unit, you stop being a junior soldier they need to gently caress with, and just some dude doing a job. As long as you look vaguely competent, it's like you're suddenly invisible*. What about a cardboard box
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:Carry a clipboard, poo poo, how hard is that? I can confirm that in my line of work that having a clipboard is a good way to keep managers from bothering you unless things are going wrong.
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https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israels-netanyahu-alleges-election-fraud-accuses-rival-duplicity-2021-06-06/quote:Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Sunday a newly formed Israeli coalition that is poised to unseat him was the result of “the greatest election fraud” in the history of democracy. Seems bad
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Gee, wonder where he got the idea to say that
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RFC2324 posted:If blocking the sun is defcon 5, what you just described is a 4, maybe 4.5. Lower DEFCON is more bad.
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hobbesmaster posted:https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israels-netanyahu-alleges-election-fraud-accuses-rival-duplicity-2021-06-06/ i hear giuliani is looking for work
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I know when you get deep into the theories, 'the Jews' stole the US election. Who stole his? Foreskin Man? Iron Dome? Super Jew? (All of which are actual published characters) I ask because at the heart of all conspiracy theories, we know who runs things.
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So in case anyone forgot, ISIS/ISIL/Daesh is still conducting terror and insurgency ops in Iraq. https://www.arabnews.com/node/1871901/middle-east Senior Iraqi Intelligence Officer Assassinated quote:Assassination came after Iraqi Intelligence Service had foiled multiple operations planned against civilians
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Bored As gently caress posted:So in case anyone forgot, ISIS/ISIL/Daesh is still conducting terror and insurgency ops in Iraq. Beats them going after civilians, doesn't sound like anyone involved here was innocent.
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In news Down Under:https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/444267/australian-federal-police-and-fbi-nab-criminal-underworld-figures-in-worldwide-sting-using-encrypted-app posted:Police claim the plan to use an encrypted app was hatched overseas over a few beers with FBI agents in 2018, before police figured out how to decrypt all messages. INCONSPICUOUS NON-GOVERNMENTAL SECURE MESSAGING APP (FOR CRIMES)
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Beats them going after civilians, doesn't sound like anyone involved here was innocent. I mean...the third line in the quote.
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That's partially how ISIL grew so quickly. They used intelligence and assassinations to remove key players in an area, most often with drive by type attacks. They removed anyone who could organize an effective resistance, and then would ramp up ops against cops, military, over run checkpoints, etc.
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