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Golden Bee posted:More than exponential growth. By SummerSlam they’re gonna be putting on a 60 minute classic Wrong direction, Jinder beat him faster the second time around. They’re going to beat that Daniel Bryan/Sheamus record just in case Bryan doesn’t re-sign (he will)
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A question apropos of nothing. But it is WWE related. You know how there is NXT UK, and the failed attempt at NXT Japan? Did they ever try to do a NXT Mexico? A country with a big wrestling fanbase, a country from which they can steal/hoard talent. And also an ethnic demographic which is largely important to their US business.
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BrigadierSensible posted:A question apropos of nothing. But it is WWE related. There's even more local politics that japan that WWE has* managed to completely whiff. Lucha Libre is a deep cultural tradition and any change, particularly brought in by outsiders, is met with fierce resistance. *allegedly, I don't know how much of the botched purchase attempt is out in the open. All I know is WWE tried to purchase a gym/arena/company and then suddenly WWE wasn't.
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The purogoons can answer this better than I can but the way I remember it, apparently the Japanese promotions asked questions like "So, when is NXT Japan actually going to start?", they didn't have an answer, and they all immediately went running to Bushiroad and CyberAgent. Which implies that the UK promotions just....never asked any questions.
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allegedly, WWE tried to buy stardom but when pressed on who gets what/etc/etc WWE couldn't answer the question straight and the deal fell through. Rossy would later sell the company to Bushiroad. Meiko and Saree were their only ins but neither were really interested in being NXT Japan because they know an outsider would be fiercely resisted. And those found aiding and abetting will get it worse.
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Personally, I never enjoyed much of Joe's work in WWE and he's only getting older. AEW is jacked. I'm happy to see him cash checks and I guess choke Adam Cole out.
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The most I remember of Joe wrestling in WWE was he was presented as a real threat to Brock Lesnar in the build to their match and then Brock beat him in 6 minutes with one F5
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BrigadierSensible posted:Did they ever try to do a NXT Mexico? A country with a big wrestling fanbase, a country from which they can steal/hoard talent. And also an ethnic demographic which is largely important to their US business. One of their corporate suits said in the last year that they were very interested in doing more Mexico / Latin American content, which was a statement that all of us immediately just laughed at because lol lol
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I wouldn't assume the WWEs move on Japan is completely dead and buried just yet. I am sure Nick Khan doesn't share HHH weird goal of spreading the WWE across the world like a virus which might stop it from happening. However, if they do want to make another run at it in 2022 as Japan in theory starts to be able to run more unrestricted shows they may find more willing sellers. Covid hit the Japanese scene pretty hard. The Bushiroad and Cyberagent promotions are insulated to a degree but a promotion like AJPW may be interested if the WWE comes a calling. Will it work ? Probably not because they will lack draws for the Japanese audience.
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Ad by Khad posted:One of their corporate suits said in the last year that they were very interested in doing more Mexico / Latin American content, which was a statement that all of us immediately just laughed at because lol It was around the end of December or beginning of January, and they fired Andrade barely three months later and did the same to Kalisto a few weeks after that
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Burn Down Canberra posted:I wouldn't assume the WWEs move on Japan is completely dead and buried just yet. I am sure Nick Khan doesn't share HHH weird goal of spreading the WWE across the world like a virus which might stop it from happening. However, if they do want to make another run at it in 2022 as Japan in theory starts to be able to run more unrestricted shows they may find more willing sellers. Covid hit the Japanese scene pretty hard. The Bushiroad and Cyberagent promotions are insulated to a degree but a promotion like AJPW may be interested if the WWE comes a calling. the closest a wrestling promoter has ever gotten to japan was Jim Barnett. And that was purely on Jim's charm. IIRC he did a few tour shows there without much opposition or complaint. Nick Khan is not Jim Barnett.
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Chris James 2 posted:It was around the end of December or beginning of January, and they fired Andrade barely three months later and did the same to Kalisto a few weeks after that They don't want them, they want more Del Rios.
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More lawsuits this time for insider trading https://www.fightful.com/wrestling/...ampaign=dlvr.it
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oldpainless posted:The most I remember of Joe wrestling in WWE was he was presented as a real threat to Brock Lesnar in the build to their match and then Brock beat him in 6 minutes with one F5 Great Balls of Fire
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MJeff posted:The purogoons can answer this better than I can but the way I remember it, apparently the Japanese promotions asked questions like "So, when is NXT Japan actually going to start?", they didn't have an answer, and they all immediately went running to Bushiroad and CyberAgent. I’m pretty sure they ran the UK title tournament before NXT UK was a thing, so I guess that was enough groundwork for them to go “oh ok they’re serious about it look it even has a real WWE belt already”.
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forkboy84 posted:Great Balls of Fire __EAT BALLS
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MJeff posted:The purogoons can answer this better than I can but the way I remember it, apparently the Japanese promotions asked questions like "So, when is NXT Japan actually going to start?", they didn't have an answer, and they all immediately went running to Bushiroad and CyberAgent. The thing about the UK promotions is that WWE was their dream. They got mark dealed into killing a thriving scene by having WWE sign their paychecks.
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Burn Down Canberra posted:I wouldn't assume the WWEs move on Japan is completely dead and buried just yet. I am sure Nick Khan doesn't share HHH weird goal of spreading the WWE across the world like a virus which might stop it from happening. However, if they do want to make another run at it in 2022 as Japan in theory starts to be able to run more unrestricted shows they may find more willing sellers. Covid hit the Japanese scene pretty hard. The Bushiroad and Cyberagent promotions are insulated to a degree but a promotion like AJPW may be interested if the WWE comes a calling. If it's a global corporation, which WWE is, they're going to want a foothold in as many places as possible. My assumption of Nick is he's as much of a traditional business guy as anybody in the corporate world. So his line of thinking is likely that if you're not growing, you're dying, and expanding to different markets certainly denotes growth. Their motivation for doing so is probably different, though.
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oldpainless posted:The most I remember of Joe wrestling in WWE was he was presented as a real threat to Brock Lesnar in the build to their match and then Brock beat him in 6 minutes with one F5 Oh hey it’s nearly every Brock match of the past five years.
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oldpainless posted:The most I remember of Joe wrestling in WWE was he was presented as a real threat to Brock Lesnar in the build to their match and then Brock beat him in 6 minutes with one F5 If I’m remembering right that was the year where they were dead set on coronating Roman by beating Brock but they kept not pulling the trigger because the crowd reactions weren’t there. Both Joe and Braun should’ve won the belt that year as they were at their hottest. If they had done that, they would’ve at least built out a good main event scene. Instead we had peak LOLBROCKWINS and we’re still stuck with beating Brock as the only way to justify someone’s main event status.
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Dacap posted:If I’m remembering right that was the year where they were dead set on coronating Roman by beating Brock but they kept not pulling the trigger because the crowd reactions weren’t there. oh yeah that ruled. an endless parade of people crowds actually wanted to be champ jobbed out by brock in under 5 minutes
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It's almost like when you sacrifice your entire roster for one guy repeatedly for a straight decade, nobody besides that guy gets over.
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Also, the payoff to all of that was Roman losing clean at Wrestlemania. So he didn't even get over on paper.
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“Main event[edit] In the main event, Brock Lesnar defended the Universal Championship against Roman Reigns. Before the match began, Braun Strowman stated his intention to cash-in his Money in the Bank contract on the winner and remained at ringside. As soon as the match began, Reigns surprised Lesnar with three superman punches and three spears. Lesnar applied a guillotine choke, only for Reigns to counter into a spinebuster. Lesnar performed two German suplexes on Reigns. As Reigns attempted another spear, Lesnar avoided it, resulting in Reigns accidentally performing a suicide dive onto Strowman outside the ring. Lesnar then performed an "F-5" on Strowman, struck Strowman with the briefcase, and threw the briefcase up the stage ramp. In the climax, Lesnar then attacked Strowman with a chair preventing him from cashing in after the match. Reigns then performed another spear on Lesnar to win the title, ending Lesnar's reign at 504 days.[30]” lmao so no. after years and years Roman pinned Brock due to Braun being a dumbass
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Shane was right when he called him stupid, in and out of the ring
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https://www.fightful.com/wrestling/...ampaign=dlvr.it The title of the article: "Charlotte Flair: I Want To Be On The Card With Men, I Don't Need An All-Female Show To Be Highlighted" quote:"Would an all-women's show be great? Yes. Would another all-women's pay-per-view be great? Yes. But I'm in the mindset that I want to be on the card with men. I want to be on the card where there's eight matches and I want to be the best of the night no matter the gender. I don't need an all-women's show or an all-women's pay-per-view to highlight my performance or skill or being a lady wrestler. No. I want to prove, no matter man or woman, I am the best. I think it's great, but I don't need an all-women's show to show I'm a great wrestler. Any promotion, any female star, anyone should say they are the best. You should not be in this business unless you're saying you're the best. Wherever you are in the world you should say you're the best.” No poo poo Charlotte doesn't really see a problem with this, because outside of Wrestlemania due to a COVID scare, she's almost always heavily featured on every PPV card, moreso than pretty much every other woman on the roster not named Becky.
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Yeah, all that basically translates to "I'm going to be on the card anyway so it doesn't affect me"
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Funny thing to say in a company where women get three minute matches and, because of a toy sponsorship, absolutely cannot wrestle men outside of comedy matches.
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So in actual heartwarming news: https://twitter.com/KairiSaneWWE/status/1405523341939593224 Basically she passed an exam and is a certified sports mental health trainer/therapist now, as she wants to prevent another Hana Kimura situation. ...Kairi is way too good for this entire business. 
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Lid posted:More lawsuits this time for insider trading is this why they're giving Piper that Doudrop pun name about stocks dropping
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DarkstarIV posted:So in actual heartwarming news: 
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I really miss that glorious flying elbow drop.
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still a little bummed that wwe didn't lean even harder into naming shows and renaming people to try to affect seo
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The Notorious ZSB posted:I really miss that glorious flying elbow drop. Wished she actually won matches so I could see it more.
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https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1405580001391562752 shout out to people being like "the pay wasn't that good" and being more about actually competing
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Per Fightful Select, apparently some of the released talent are asking WWE if they can forego their non competes, ranging from the last few days to the entire balance of it and WWE is apparently receptive to it.
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MJeff posted:Per Fightful Select, apparently some of the released talent are asking WWE if they can forego their non competes, ranging from the last few days to the entire balance of it and WWE is apparently receptive to it.
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In news that will shock approximately...zero people: https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1405577558922514438?s=19
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