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Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Casey Finnigan posted:

in the NYTimes article (which is full of effusive praise for Amazon lol) there is a lady who worked at Amazon for months, who was actually cool with being tracked and performed well relative to her coworkers, etc etc. She missed her bus once and her station at work was occupied so she tried to get another assignment, but the system didn't put it through properly.

She was flagged as not working hard enough and fired that same day

i read a scifi short story called "manna" that 100% predicted amazons hell-system. but they assumed it would be used in fast food, this was back in 2003 before internet shops were big. special computers telling your every movement, shock collars that buzz you if you move incorrectly, AI management that will flag you for any minor infraction, etc:

https://marshallbrain.com/manna1

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I can remember sitting down one day with my friend Brian at lunch. He was working at the giant discount supercenter in Raleigh, and they had just switched over to Manna. He was stunned.

“It doesn’t matter if you are a hard worker or a slacker — once you put on the headset, you are going to be working every minute of the day or you are gone. The system has already fired five people.”...

“It’s not unusual, except that Manna is telling you exactly what to do every second of every day. If it asks you to go to the back and get merchandise, it tells you exactly where to walk to go get it. And here is the weirdest part — I never see another employee the entire day. The way it makes me walk, I never run into anyone else. I can go for a full shift and never see another employee. Even our breaks are staggered. Everyone takes their breaks alone. We all arrive at staggered times. It’s like Manna is trying to totally eliminate human interaction on the job.”

“That’s spooky. Why would it do that?” I asked.

Brian looked down, “I’m guessing that talking with co-workers wastes time, and Manna is eliminating the waste everywhere it can.”......

In version 3.0, the software gained the ability to fire employees as well. I had a friend who got fired that way. He came into the store late for his shift, and it was his third time being late. He punched in and put on his headset. He walked over to the eye scan station to log in. He said Manna sounded normal, and had him working normally for about half an hour. Then Manna asked him to walk to Zone 7 at the back of the store. A Burger-G security guy was standing there with three sheets of paper. The security guy was wearing the solid black security uniform, the opaque sunglasses and a headset integrated into the helmet. He looked back and there was another security guy standing near the door. Manna said to him, “Steven J. Canis, employee number 4378561, your employment at Burger-G store number 152 is hereby terminated in accordance with employee manual paragraph 12.1, failure to appear at work on time.”

now we have reached this part of the story:

quote:

As these communication networks between all the different Manna systems built up, things started to get uncomfortable for every worker. For example, the Manna software in each store knew about employee performance in microscopic detail — how often the employee was on time or early, how quickly the employee did tasks, how quickly the employee answered the phone and responded to email, how the customers rated the employee and so on. When an employee left a store and tried to get a new job somewhere else, any other Manna system could request the employee’s performance record. If an employee had “issues” — late, slow, disorganized, unkempt — it became nearly impossible for that employee to get another job. Nearly every company with minimum wage employees used Manna software or something similar, and performance records on employees were a major commodity freely exchanged between corporations. A marginal employee got blacklisted in the system very quickly.

That ability to blacklist employees is where things got ugly, because it gave Manna far too much power. Manna was everywhere, and it was managing about a half of the workers in the United States through headsets, cell phones and email. Manna moved in and took over a big chunk of the government as well. There came a point where tens of millions of humans did nothing at work unless told to do so by a Manna system.

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dew worm
Apr 20, 2019

a lot of the sp500 funds have Tesla in their top holdings…seems less than ideal

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




we bought into a co-op because my inlaws got my wife all agitated that rent was a waste but the maintanence is exactly the same as the rent we were paying so i think my in laws are just pricks.

FistEnergy
Nov 3, 2000

DAY CREW: WORKING HARD

Fun Shoe

dew worm posted:

a lot of the sp500 funds have Tesla in their top holdings…seems less than ideal

yes but also very funny

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Real hurthling! posted:

we bought into a co-op because my inlaws got my wife all agitated that rent was a waste but the maintanence is exactly the same as the rent we were paying so i think my in laws are just pricks.

im always suspicious of the big co-op/condo/hoas that have sizable assessments , no visible things to maintain , and then still need special assessments when something comes up.
all those fees are extra bad in the era of low interest, where you can leverage that monthly payment into bigger and bigger mortgages to try to flip down the road

then again it's probably worse to be in a 2 unit duplex like my friend was where their stairs needed replacement and he had to go ask the neighbors if they could split half the 10k bill. no idea what he would have done if they'd just said no

Bar Ran Dun
Jan 22, 2006




LINER CONGESTION SPREADS ACROSS THE PLANET, 304 SHIPS QUEUING FOR BERTH SPACE
The ebb and flow of record global liner congestion is neatly encapsulated in two maps provided below from Seaexplorer, a container shipping platform created by logistics giant Kuehne+Nagel.
As of 3.30 pm Singapore time today there were 304 ships idle in front of ports around the world waiting for berth space to open up. Seaexplorer data shows there are 101 ports reporting disruption such as congestion. Officials at the Kuehne+Nagel digital offshoot report the number of ships forming queues hit 350 in the middle of this week before falling back to 304, the same level as this time last week (see lower map). Red dots in the enlargeable maps represent clusters of ships while orange ones mark out ports that are congested or suffering from disrupted operations.
The clear change over the past week is how the congestion, so visible in recent weeks in south China, a key export area hit by a Covid-19 outbreak, is now spreading to other important hubs. Singapore, for instance, has seen the number of boxships waiting for berth space increase by 37.5% over the past week, while intra-Asia hubs such as Laem Chabang are now reporting tailbacks and in the US, east coast ports are suffering all manner of disruptions.
While last week, boxships queueing in Chinese waters made up more than 50% of the global total, this has dropped today to less than 40% indicating the growing global congestion contagion.
Terminals are becoming global bottlenecks, be it at berths, yards or gating out cargo.
Maersk, the world’s largest container line, in a post from earlier this week discussed the stretched nature of global supply chains, something it warned was now the new normal.
“The trend is worrying, and unceasing congestion is becoming a global problem. Due to Covid-19 and a significant volume push since the end of last year, terminals are becoming global bottlenecks, be it at berths, yards or gating out cargo, and it’s continuing throughout the logistics chain – in the warehouses, the distribution centers – with numbers on the rise,” Maersk stated.
Splash reported yesterday how the partial shutdown of Yantian Port following a Covid-19 outbreak late last month is now on track to affect twice as many containers as were impacted during March’s high-profile blockage of the Suez Canal. (Splash 24/7.com, 6/18/2021)

Bar Ran Dun
Jan 22, 2006




The skyrocketing price of shipping goods across the globe may hit your pocketbook sooner than you think - from that cup of coffee you get each morning to the toys you were thinking of buying your kids.
Transporting a 40-foot steel container of cargo by sea from Shanghai to Rotterdam now costs a record $10,522, a whopping 547% higher than the seasonal average over the last five years, according to Drewry Shipping. With upwards of 80% of all goods trade transported by sea, freight-cost surges are threatening to boost the price of everything from toys, furniture and car parts to coffee, sugar and anchovies, compounding concerns in global markets already bracing for accelerating inflation.
“In 40 years in toy retailing I have never known such challenging conditions from the point of view of pricing,” Gary Grant, the founder and executive chairman of the U.K. toy shop The Entertainer, said in a interview. He has had to stop importing giant teddy bears from China because their retail price would have had to double to add in higher freight costs. “Will this have an impact on retail prices? My answer has to be yes.”
A confluence of factors - soaring demand, a shortage of containers, saturated ports and too few ships and dock workers - have contributed to the squeeze on transportation capacity on every freight path. Recent Covid outbreaks in Asian export hubs like China have made matters worse. The pain is most acutely felt on longer-distance routes, making shipping from Shanghai to Rotterdam 67% more expensive than to the U.S. West Coast, for instance.
Often dismissed as having an insignificant impact on inflation because they were a tiny part of the overall expense, rising shipping costs are now forcing some economists to pay them a bit more attention. Although still seen as a relatively minor input, HSBC Holdings Plc estimates that a 205% increase in container shipping costs over the past year could raise euro-area producer prices by as much as 2%.
Central bankers have so far been sanguine about the phenomenon, arguing that the rise in consumer prices tied to supply hiccups won’t last. European Central Bank President Christine Lagarde said on June 10 that while supply-chain bottlenecks would push up production prices and the headline inflation rate is expected to rise further in the second half of this year, the effect will fade.
Several factors explain the relative lack of concern. Shipping costs only constitute a small fraction of the final price of a manufactured good, with economists at Goldman Sachs Group Inc. estimating in March - when China-Europe rates were about half of current levels - that internationally they made up less than 1%.

To top that, companies have annual contracts with the container lines, so the prices they’ve locked in are considerably lower than the headline-grabbing spot rates. Although the latest round of contract negotiations in May reflected the stronger spot market, HSBC trade economist Shanella Rajanayagam said that “the longer-term rates are much much lower than the spot rates, even if they are feeding through.”
With the end of lockdowns consumer demand is likely to shift to services from goods, but “the risk of course is that higher shipping costs persist - especially given ongoing shipping disruption - and that producers become more willing to pass these higher costs on to consumers,” Rajanayagam said.
While many economists note that even a full pass-through of higher shipping fares to consumers will have a marginal effect on headline inflation, Volker Wieland, a professor of economics at the Goethe University in Frankfurt and a member of the German government’s council of economic advisers, warns that they might not be sufficiently factored in.
“Even if the order of magnitude is smaller than estimated, the dynamic builds over a year and has significant effects,” he said. “That means there’s a danger we’re underestimating the impact.” (Bloomberg, 6/14/2021)

Bar Ran Dun
Jan 22, 2006




RETAILER HOME DEPOT CHARTERS BOXSHIP TO MAINTAIN SUPPLY CHAIN
After months of reports of capacity and equipment shortages highlighting the challenges retailers are having getting merchandise to their stores, one of the largest big-box stores in North America, Home Depot, has taken the extraordinary step of chartering a containership to maintain its supply chain. It is the first time in the company’s 40-year history that it has gone to such extremes to fill its shelves.
The home improvement’ retailer ranks as one of the largest importers. With nearly 2,300 stores in the U.S., Canada, and Mexico, Home Depot generated over $132 billion in revenues in 2020. The home improvement sector continues to be one of the hottest segments, with consumers deciding to make changes as they spent months at home during the pandemic.
With sales rising over 30 percent in the first quarter of 2021, Home Depot has a voracious appetite for merchandise to keep its stores and warehouses full. Each store stocks approximately 35,000 products, the company reports, with a total of more than one million items listed in its online store.
President and Chief Operating Officer Ted Decker told CNBC that the company has already taken usual steps to maintain its merchandise inventories and get products on the shelves during the disruptions to the global supply chain. He said Home Depot has purchased merchandise at higher costs in the open market beyond its contracted suppliers. The company has even resorted to flying smaller, higher value items, such as power tools and electrical components, by air freight to make up for shortfalls in supply.
Describing the company’s latest efforts to maintain its supply lines, Decker told CNBC, “We have a ship that’s solely going to be ours, and it’s just going to go back and forth with 100 percent dedicated to Home Depot.” He did not identify the size of the boxship or which carrier they are chartering the vessel from, nor the length of the charter. He said it would start running next month, but did not specify which routes or ports.
Last week, the National Retail Federation forecast that the U.S.’s major ports were on track for record volumes in 2021 driven in large part by retail merchandise imports. The NRF in its monthly Global Port Tracker projected that container volume would remain above 2020 levels at least until the fall but might see a slight decline in volumes versus 2020 before retailers begin stocking up for the holiday retailer season. (Maritime Executive, 6/15/2021)

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Bar Ran Dun posted:

LINER CONGESTION SPREADS ACROSS THE PLANET, 304 SHIPS QUEUING FOR BERTH SPACE
The ebb and flow of record global liner congestion is neatly encapsulated in two maps provided below from Seaexplorer, a container shipping platform created by logistics giant Kuehne+Nagel.
As of 3.30 pm Singapore time today there were 304 ships idle in front of ports around the world waiting for berth space to open up. Seaexplorer data shows there are 101 ports reporting disruption such as congestion. Officials at the Kuehne+Nagel digital offshoot report the number of ships forming queues hit 350 in the middle of this week before falling back to 304, the same level as this time last week (see lower map). Red dots in the enlargeable maps represent clusters of ships while orange ones mark out ports that are congested or suffering from disrupted operations.
The clear change over the past week is how the congestion, so visible in recent weeks in south China, a key export area hit by a Covid-19 outbreak, is now spreading to other important hubs. Singapore, for instance, has seen the number of boxships waiting for berth space increase by 37.5% over the past week, while intra-Asia hubs such as Laem Chabang are now reporting tailbacks and in the US, east coast ports are suffering all manner of disruptions.
While last week, boxships queueing in Chinese waters made up more than 50% of the global total, this has dropped today to less than 40% indicating the growing global congestion contagion.
Terminals are becoming global bottlenecks, be it at berths, yards or gating out cargo.
Maersk, the world’s largest container line, in a post from earlier this week discussed the stretched nature of global supply chains, something it warned was now the new normal.
“The trend is worrying, and unceasing congestion is becoming a global problem. Due to Covid-19 and a significant volume push since the end of last year, terminals are becoming global bottlenecks, be it at berths, yards or gating out cargo, and it’s continuing throughout the logistics chain – in the warehouses, the distribution centers – with numbers on the rise,” Maersk stated.
Splash reported yesterday how the partial shutdown of Yantian Port following a Covid-19 outbreak late last month is now on track to affect twice as many containers as were impacted during March’s high-profile blockage of the Suez Canal. (Splash 24/7.com, 6/18/2021)

the sovcits said we'd regret wasting all our berth certificates on our citizens instead of their intended purpose and they were right

Leroy Diplowski
Aug 25, 2005

The Candyman Can :science:

Visit My Candy Shop

And SA Mart Thread

silentsnack posted:

nah. before you get foreclosed you invite over an entire homeless encampment to hang out, and then rent your house out for free to anyone that wants and give them all legitimate leases (for 500 years or whatev) so the bank has to deal with 50 separate evictions

This happened in 2008 when the couple I was renting a room from got foreclosed on. They were like, well since we aren't paying a mortgage any longer you can stay rent free. I stayed for a few months until I found a place. 3 months later I went back to scavenge for furniture and the bank hadn't even changed the locks.

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




theres a guy in queens on a 20 year foreclosure evasion run that i was reading about in the paper recently
ny post link

net work error
Feb 26, 2011

Mirthless posted:

So... It's Millennial Miami?

Miami is Millenial Miami because the city mayor is courting bitcoin bros and VC vultures as plan B for the Austin bound crowd. It sucks.

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Real hurthling! posted:

theres a guy in queens on a 20 year foreclosure evasion run that i was reading about in the paper recently
ny post link

incredible. what a legend

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Epic High Five posted:

Georgism was an interesting product of the time but it didn't employ the immortal science so it was doomed. Nowadays if someone is talking about it there's a 90% chance they're a history geek or 10% chance they're the fringe who want land reform and the destruction of the rent seeking class but also despise socialism

One of the most interesting things about it was how it was the 2nd best selling book of that century behind the bible but it was so unpopular with the handful of people who actually matter that it has been effectively cleansed from the historical record

there is zero reason that georgism cannot and most likely will be used in a transitional period between capitalism and socialism

China is already in the process of experimenting with the Land Value Tax in various cities.

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
every non prc chinese polity except hong kong went in on lvt pretty hard in the 50s to 80s and then backed down because of neolibs

singapore had really cheap housing prices for decades cuz 90% housing was nationalized. still is nationalized, just that they figured out a way to speculate again so prices went up

prc itself is home to the biggest re fuckery in the middle income world because local govt had an orgy of land selling. so what they did was the opposite of what george recommended

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

dew worm posted:

a lot of the sp500 funds have Tesla in their top holdings…seems less than ideal

Musk was probably trying to become Too Big to Fail on purpose by getting listed there.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Real hurthling! posted:

theres a guy in queens on a 20 year foreclosure evasion run that i was reading about in the paper recently
ny post link

big_bank_ghouls posted:

Its really a group of people that are more than willing to use the courts and abuse the courts to whatever extent they need to extend their illegal occupancy, said attorney Jordan Katz, who reps current property owner Diamond Ridge Partners.
:qqsay: Why are they using the same tactics we use! It's not faiiiiirrr!!! :qqsay:

Palladium
May 8, 2012

Very Good
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DoomTrainPhD posted:

:qqsay: Why are they using the same tactics we use! It's not faiiiiirrr!!! :qqsay:

Every free market advocate ever

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Palladium posted:

Every free market advocate ever

New law: If you avoid eviction through the court system for more than 5 years, you get to own the house legally.

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

DoomTrainPhD posted:

New law: If you kill the bank, you become the bank

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009
Well that's just rude. Nobody deserves to be a bank.

C-SPAN Caller
Apr 21, 2010



Real hurthling! posted:

theres a guy in queens on a 20 year foreclosure evasion run that i was reading about in the paper recently
ny post link

This dude loving rules, hope he makes it until his death and someone else takes up the reigns afterwards

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.
Dare to struggle, Dare to win!

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




see, a good home in a major city only costs 1 mortgage payment of 1600 dollars + legal fees for your chain of declared bankruptcies and court filings. theres no crisis. millenials are just lazy

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

Real hurthling! posted:

see, a good home in a major city only costs 1 mortgage payment of 1600 dollars + legal fees for your chain of declared bankruptcies and court filings. theres no crisis. millenials are just lazy

So, basically the same way you get medical care: Become an expert on the legal and insurance system to beat them at their own game.

C-SPAN Caller
Apr 21, 2010



The worst part is a bunch of broke brained americans hate this guy for this when he's doing the exact same poo poo the capitalist class has done since the start of capitalism.

Redirect your hatred assholes, this is the free market baby and if you want regulations to stop this, maybe do it on the real criminals here.

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

GoLambo posted:

there is still a lot of residual family wealth out there, inheriting property is still a thing, and plenty of those americans still have relatively high wage jobs as a total percentage of the working population yeah. but they are an ever shrinking segment of the total population.

and they all need a good struggle session

Won't the boomers dying off be a massive wealth transfer event?

net work error
Feb 26, 2011

Maximo Roboto posted:

Won't the boomers dying off be a massive wealth transfer event?

They either don't have any wealth to transfer or were duped into giving it to the banks.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

Maximo Roboto posted:

Won't the boomers dying off be a massive wealth transfer event?

To the people that own nursing homes and whoever admins their reverse mortgages, sure.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Maximo Roboto posted:

Won't the boomers dying off be a massive wealth transfer event?

Two words: Reverse Mortgage

Porpoise With A Purpose
Feb 28, 2006

Maximo Roboto posted:

Won't the boomers dying off be a massive wealth transfer event?

Most boomers aren't going to be transfering money anywhere but their retirement homes.

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY
https://twitter.com/Newsquawk/status/1405868550418481155?s=19

I'm dying.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009
Doge at .28 and falling. gently caress you crypto investors! Lose it all!

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

StealthArcher posted:

I cant wait until someone in this thread unironically says something along the lines of

"The revolution would eventually end the collective suffering of the underclass and thus is lib poo poo. The revolution is counterrevolutionary."

electric-jellyfish posted:

My partner and I also live in Austin for now. I feel like I'm counting down the months until we can leave (about a year left to go), and wishing it was sooner so we could know where we were moving next before we get completely priced out of home ownership.

Where are y'all going? Nashville? Atlanta? Louisville? Asheville? Tulsa?

Shifty Pony posted:

I saw someone say that Austin has marketed itself as a Cool City for decades and as a result has attracted a lot of people who are so desperate to be cool that they move to a place that markets itself as a Cool City.

That's what happened to Portland, that's the fate of every city.

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

StealthArcher posted:

I cant wait until someone in this thread unironically says something along the lines of

"The revolution would eventually end the collective suffering of the underclass and thus is lib poo poo. The revolution is counterrevolutionary."

Unrelated to this discussion, but in the spirit of this quote, I'm tempted to start a Georgist shtick off of the "Marxism is a conspiracy against Henry George, just like neoclassical economics" crankery

https://twitter.com/julius_sky/status/1302841387826647043

bob dobbs is dead posted:

every non prc chinese polity except hong kong went in on lvt pretty hard in the 50s to 80s and then backed down because of neolibs

singapore had really cheap housing prices for decades cuz 90% housing was nationalized. still is nationalized, just that they figured out a way to speculate again so prices went up

prc itself is home to the biggest re fuckery in the middle income world because local govt had an orgy of land selling. so what they did was the opposite of what george recommended

Sun Yat-Sen was really influenced by Henry George. Sadly the latter was xenophobic against Chinese immigrants. Really good essay that goes into it:

https://medium.com/@theneogeoist/what-is-under-heaven-belongs-to-all-d09b1eb1877c

Maximo Roboto has issued a correction as of 18:50 on Jun 18, 2021

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

Maximo Roboto posted:

Won't the boomers dying off be a massive wealth transfer event?

A massive wealth transfer to nursing home conglomerates.

Edgar Allan Pwned
Apr 4, 2011

Quoth the Raven "I love the power glove. It's so bad..."
I think it should be illegal to transfer wealth generationally.

Palladium
May 8, 2012

Very Good
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bob dobbs is dead posted:

singapore had really cheap housing prices for decades cuz 90% housing was nationalized. still is nationalized, just that they figured out a way to speculate again so prices went up

It's called "loving boomers"

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void

Edgar Allan Pwned posted:

I think it should be illegal to wealth.

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FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Maximo Roboto posted:

Won't the boomers dying off be a massive wealth transfer event?

Sure. After the feds sell 50% of their assets to recover the cost of their Medicare and the nursing homes take the other 50%.

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